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aflanigan

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 9:19pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Hmmm. Interesting hypothesis. There was a long stretch of my life where I wallowed in jealousy, resentment, and lots of other pointless negativities. And then one day in the spring of 1989, completely sober, it occurred to me that it didn't have to be that way. I had a roof over my head. I was able to fulfill my obligations and take care of myself. There simply was no reason not to be happy even though I was alone and expected to be for the foreseeable future.

I was leaning against my car, outside my apartment, having just finished doing laundry, in a light, warm spring rain. It didn't even seem like an epiphany at the time. It just seemed like common sense.

 

If kurtster really wants to have a serious discussion, this sort of indicates where he needs to start.  What does he mean by happiness?  What do most people understand "happiness" to be? 

Is happiness the state of having a certain level of endorphins or dopamine, serotonin, or oxytocin in your brain?

Am I happy if I don't feel euphoric?

Am I happy if I have an absence of  anxiety and stress in my life?

Is complacency happiness?  Sometimes being complacent might not be the most desirable mental state, especially if it is keeping me from perceiving something potentially harmful or dangerous.  If the so-called war on happiness involves taking on dangerous compacency, sign me up, soldier.
BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:12pm

 kurtster wrote:


{#Think}  Pretty cool, sounds like a moment of some serious sweet lucidity.

 
And a weight lifted off my shoulders. An ordinary moment that I will never forget.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:11pm

 hippiechick wrote:

This is beyond your realm of understanding. There is no need for accomplishment. You are not what you do, you are who you are. 

Studying Buddhist concepts or reading Eckhart Tolle would help you understand these ideas better.

 
Are not Buddhist priests extremely well accomplished with life skills and recognized for their achievements by reaching the level of priest ?  While they may not take pride in their levels of accomplishment, it is a profound source of their inner peace, is it not ?


Coaxial

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:11pm

 buzz wrote:

What makes you think you know my realm of understanding?

 
Hey mister that's her story.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:09pm

 hippiechick wrote:

This is beyond your realm of understanding. There is no need for accomplishment. You are not what you do, you are who you are. 

Studying Buddhist concepts or reading Eckhart Tolle would help you understand these ideas better.

 
In relation to the title of this thread, how's that working out for you?
buzz

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:05pm

 hippiechick wrote:

This is beyond your realm of understanding. There is no need for accomplishment. You are not what you do, you are who you are. 

Studying Buddhist concepts or reading Eckhart Tolle would help you understand these ideas better.

 
What makes you think you know my realm of understanding?
Umberdog

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 8:01pm

If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem.

~ Richard Bach


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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:56pm

 buzz wrote:

If people were to simply accept what is, there would be no accomplishment, either on a societal level or on a on personal level

 
This is beyond your realm of understanding. There is no need for accomplishment. You are not what you do, you are who you are. 

Studying Buddhist concepts or reading Eckhart Tolle would help you understand these ideas better.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:55pm

 kurtster wrote:

How about the recognition of being self sufficient and independently able to survive on your own abilities and skills ?  That to me would bring about a lifetime of happiness.

 
ego
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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:43pm

 ErikX wrote:

You do realize that some were born on 3rd base and others never get a chance to even bat dont you? This is especially true in America where the wealth gap is at an all-time high.

Its like having a one mile race where some people (like the 1%)  get a 3 lap head start. 

 

We still have a long way to go before we get to this part of the discussion.

We're still defining the devolutionary phase of this discussion.

Patience.


buzz

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:41pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

what do you know of my wood?

 
{#Stop}
 
nobody here want to know about that 
buzz

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:39pm

 
 
That's life, that's what people say. 
You're riding high in April, 
Shot down in May. 
But I know I'm gonna change their tune, 
When I'm right back on top in June. 

That's life, funny as it seems. 
Some people get their kicks, 
Steppin' on dreams
But I just can't let it get me down, 
Cause this big old world keeps spinnin' around. 

I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, 
A poet, a pawn and a king. 
I've been up and down and over and out 
But I know one thing: 
Each time I find myself flat on my face, 
I pick myself up and get back in the race. 

That's life, I can't deny it, 
I thought of quitting, 
But my heart just won't buy it. 
Cause if I didn't think it was worth a try, 
I'd have to roll myself up in a big ball and die.
 
 
 
 

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:38pm

 buzz wrote:

your story

 
what do you know of my wood?
Umberdog

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:35pm

 oldslabsides wrote:
party pooper
 
Classic buzz kill.
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:34pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Hmmm. Interesting hypothesis. There was a long stretch of my life where I wallowed in jealousy, resentment, and lots of other pointless negativities. And then one day in the spring of 1989, completely sober, it occurred to me that it didn't have to be that way. I had a roof over my head. I was able to fulfill my obligations and take care of myself. There simply was no reason not to be happy even though I was alone and expected to be for the foreseeable future.

I was leaning against my car, outside my apartment, having just finished doing laundry, in a light, warm spring rain. It didn't even seem like an epiphany at the time. It just seemed like common sense.

 

{#Think}  Pretty cool, sounds like a moment of some serious sweet lucidity.
ErikX

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:34pm

 kurtster wrote:

How about the recognition of being self sufficient and independently able to survive on your own abilities and skills ?  That to me would bring about a lifetime of happiness.

 
You do realize that some were born on 3rd base and others never get a chance to even bat dont you? This is especially true in America where the wealth gap is at an all-time high.

Its like having a one mile race where some people (like the 1%)  get a 3 lap head start. 
buzz

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:33pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

party pooper

 
your story
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:32pm

 buzz wrote:

If people were to simply accept what is, there would be no accomplishment, either on a societal level or on a on personal level

 
party pooper
buzz

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:30pm

 hippiechick wrote:

Acceptance

 
If people were to simply accept what is, there would be no accomplishment, either on a societal level or on a on personal level


kurtster

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Posted: Dec 9, 2012 - 7:29pm

 hippiechick wrote:

These are all ego based, not real happiness. External events, such as rewards, provide only temporary fulfillment of the ego and not real inner peace and happiness

 
How about the recognition of being self sufficient and independently able to survive on your own abilities and skills ?  That to me would bring about a lifetime of happiness.
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