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Posted:
Mar 19, 2011 - 6:15pm
Painted_Turtle wrote:
Do we have too?
we're already out of money...how much do you reckon it costs each time one of those fighter jets takes off and lands. Not to mention the cost of the huge battle ships parked off the coast.
A lot. But there's never a shortage of cash when it comes to weapons.
Apparently each cruise missile costs $500,000, so with 112 of the buggers launched tonight that's a pretty good day for the "defence" industry.
But in the meantime in Bahrain, Yemen and Syria revolutions are being crushed. Saudi Arabia sending troops being invited into Bahrain
we're already out of money...how much do you reckon it costs each time one of those fighter jets takes off and lands. Not to mention the cost of the huge battle ships parked off the coast.
we just fired 110 Tomahawk missiles at them. each of them cost $569,000.
we're already out of money...how much do you reckon it costs each time one of those fighter jets takes off and lands. Not to mention the cost of the huge battle ships parked off the coast.
I miss politicians who did what they thought was right rather than analysing the reaction of the marketing panel of judges before taking a decision. Then again that was what Blair did in Iraq and then got various people to fake the evidence to back him up. Maybe I'll give up politics.
In my reckoning, that is precisely the definition of a politician. I prefer statesmen, but there were never very many of them and they've been extinct for quite some time.
I miss politicians who did what they thought was right rather than analysing the reaction of the marketing panel of judges before taking a decision. Then again that was what Blair did in Iraq and then got various people to fake the evidence to back him up. Maybe I'll give up politics.
yep, often they all seem to be either spineless gits or demagogues, or some sort of unhealthy fusion of the two.
thanks for the German analysis- I knew I was losing my way.
For what it's worth the French government were kicked up the backside for not acting on Algeria which is one reason (quite apart from the economics) that they feel they have to be seen to be doing something now.
I miss politicians who did what they thought was right rather than analysing the reaction of the marketing panel of judges before taking a decision. Then again that was what Blair did in Iraq and then got various people to fake the evidence to back him up. Maybe I'll give up politics.
Yebut Blair was an egomaniac power hungry lunatic who confused serving the people with the people serving him.
dawn odyssey is at least an improvement in the nomenclature imho.
pretty crafty too, calling it dawn odyssey then starting at dusk. can't get much trickier than that.
are you saying the French are tricky?!!
thanks for the German analysis- I knew I was losing my way.
For what it's worth the French government were kicked up the backside for not acting on Algeria which is one reason (quite apart from the economics) that they feel they have to be seen to be doing something now.
I miss politicians who did what they thought was right rather than analysing the reaction of the marketing panel of judges before taking a decision. Then again that was what Blair did in Iraq and then got various people to fake the evidence to back him up. Maybe I'll give up politics.
dawn odyssey is at least an improvement in the nomenclature imho.
pretty crafty too, calling it dawn odyssey then starting at dusk. can't get much trickier than that.
I thought the whole point of weird names was to help maintain secrecy, in case someone overheard a conversation etc - the British just pick them at random so no meaning can be inferred. It seems utterly ridiculous to announce the name - why not just call it "The Libyan Operation" and have done with it.
Maybe we should have taken a page from them. Starting, oh, 60 years ago?
There are a number of reasons why Germany abstained.
1. for sure, its horrific past has made them extremely pacifist by nature.
2. there are too many parallels here with Iraq which virtually all Germans think was a mistake
3. there is reluctant acknowledgement that sitting on your hands isn't going to stop a massacre either, but Germans realize they can hide behind the big boys here to do the tough work, in this case France!! ha. But generally the situation looks too messy and intractable to most Germans, so they'd rather stay out of it.
4. Internally the governing coalition is on the back foot. The government was steadfast in its support of nuclear power, even prolonging the operating licenses, despite strong resistance to it here in the wider population. Now Fukushima has made the government policy look idiotic and downright dangerous. The last thing they want to do is make another mistake.
5. The Minister of Defence (touted as the up and coming chancellor) was forced to resign a couple of weeks ago for plagiarizing the work for his doctorate. Moreover public faith in the military has suffered from a couple of scandals recently and don't forget, recently a German military decision in Afghanistan cost 117 Afghani civilians their lives. That sort of thing doesn't go down too well over here.
6. And yes, there are state elections coming up so the government is dead keen not to further alienate the swing voters (which they may well have lost anyway).
7. Finally, Merkel is a fantastic bureaucrat but does not have the decisiveness to seize the moment and take bold policy steps, so she's doing what she does very well, muddling through it somehow.
I will trust the integrity of the moral support of democracy through warplanes when I see the UN/NATO/US forces equally pounding the governmental forces of Bahrain and Yemen. Until then, it is just another warmongering tactic of bullying by the Big Boys. Disgusting. *spits*
Obviously, nothing whatsoever to do with the oil (LOL). Anyway, after we have bombed the shit out them, we can hopefully start all over again selling arms to the new regime!!
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