That's freedom of speech.

I think I have used this parable before:

A big dog walks up to a man on a bench.

If the man likes dogs, he will pet it and be friendly.

If he is indifferent, he will ignore the dog.

If he is afraid, he'll run.

His reaction has nothing to do with the dog, but instead, his feelings about dogs.

Give this some thought.

I disagree with you, as I probably will always, regarding a great many things. There are others that share my feelings about this here. Where freedom of speech and moderated forums exist, hearty debates will ensue, I realize. But posting propaganda like that garbage serves no purpose other than to raise fear-levels, albeit awareness about what's going on in the "now". We're all aware of it. A lot of us are up to "here" in awareness. Thanks.

I disagree with you, as I probably will always, regarding a great many things.  There are others that share my feelings about this here.  Where freedom of speech and moderated forums exist, hearty debates will ensue, I realize.  But posting propaganda like that garbage serves no purpose other than to raise fear-levels, albeit awareness about what's going on in the "now".  We're all aware of it. A lot of us are up to "here" in awareness.  Thanks.

We all have different tolerances for what we can stand or not. I can talk about anything, just about, where other people obviously prefer to keep some subjects more quiet. I don't think that there is a right or wrong here, but you always have a choice not to read stuff that upsets you.

IMO, it was a legitimate post for a scary, important subject. I have had similar feelings myself. Your response was most likely due to a feeling that the post brought up for you, but it's not fair to blame Nuggler for your response. We all have the opportunity and choice to react or not.

Please understand, I am not invalidating your feelings. The news continues to get worse and worse, and we are all frustrated, if not scared, at the world events. But don't shoot the messenger, or tell him that his thoughts, feelings and concerns do not have the right to be addressed.

I will tell you the same thing that everyone keeps telling me: If you don't like it, walk away from it.

Okay.  I blew up at you.  I apologize.  But I didn't resort to hostility until you pissed me off.  Congratulations.  That's what certain people here view as a trophy of some sort these days when it comes to their self-imposed superiority over others.

I'm tired of seeing the doom and gloom in the world all over the news sites, hearing it being talked about at the water cooler, experiencing it in the frustration that people have when it comes to dealing with each other on the road and out in public.  It's everywhere.  Now, people like you bring it here - the one place I can come to and talk to diverse people about an array of subjects that could possibly cultivate into friendships and relationships with people that are also looking to relax their guard for awhile and enjoy cool tunes, promote laughter and salve the wounds that everyday stark, raving fear inflicts upon us all.  But no.  You fucking brainiacs have to speculate about the third world war, what's credible and what isn't regarding EVERYTHING and a lot of people around here are SICK TO DEATH of it.

And if you've looked at any of my journals (that I now realize were a mistake to post here) you think you have any inkling about who I am, you'll recognize that I'm not some goddamned 24/7 good-timer.  I'm trying to heal like everyone else that's ever seen violence on a first-hand basis and tried to sleep at night without nightmares about it a decade later.  I live in a state of panic because I see the same thing you do happening and there's NOTHING I can do to change it.  I'll stick to reading the journals, as a good friend suggested and stay out of these forums whether I have questions about anything political or not.

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Okay.  I blew up at you.  I apologize.  But I didn't resort to hostility until you pissed me off.  Congratulations.  That's what certain people here view as a trophy of some sort these days when it comes to their self-imposed superiority over others.

I'm tired of seeing the doom and gloom in the world all over the news sites, hearing it being talked about at the water cooler, experiencing it in the frustration that people have when it comes to dealing with each other on the road and out in public.  It's everywhere.  Now, people like you bring it here - the one place I can come to and talk to diverse people about an array of subjects that could possibly cultivate into friendships and relationships with people that are also looking to relax their guard for awhile and enjoy cool tunes, promote laughter and salve the wounds that everyday stark, raving fear inflicts upon us all.  But no.  You fucking brainiacs have to speculate about the third world war, what's credible and what isn't regarding EVERYTHING and a lot of people around here are SICK TO DEATH of it.

And if you've looked at any of my journals (that I now realize were a mistake to post here) you think you have any inkling about who I am, you'll recognize that I'm not some goddamned 24/7 good-timer.  I'm trying to heal like everyone else that's ever seen violence on a first-hand basis and tried to sleep at night without nightmares about it a decade later.  I live in a state of panic because I see the same thing you do happening and there's NOTHING I can do to change it.  I'll stick to reading the journals, as a good friend suggested and stay out of these forums whether I have questions about anything political or not.

By the way, don't address me common, you prick.  Only my friends are allowed to do that and you definitely aren't one of them.

Okay.  I blew up at you.  I apologize.  But I didn't resort to hostility until you pissed me off.  Congratulations.  That's what certain people here view as a trophy of some sort these days when it comes to their self-imposed superiority over others.

And if you've looked at any of my journals (that I now realize were a mistake to post here) you think you have any inkling about who I am, you'll recognize that I'm not some goddamned 24/7 good-timer.  I'm trying to heal like everyone else that's ever seen violence on a first-hand basis and tried to sleep at night without nightmares about it a decade later.  I live in a state of panic because I see the same thing you do happening and there's NOTHING I can do to change it.  I'll stick to reading the journals, as a good friend suggested and stay out of these forums whether I have questions about anything political or not.

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Aaah. I see Beaker has broken you in well. 

In case you haven't noticed, MIM, we're trying very very hard here to move beyond the macho posturing & knock-down brawls that most here incl. myself have had our fill of. With that in mind, where is it you're hoping to take us, you & me, with your hostility ? If you want to engage me civilly on something I posted, feel free.

I recall a soul searching journal of yours not too long ago where you were searching for higher ground within yourself. Answer me this, John. How does your current hostile & confrontational stand against myself fit in with that hope you expressed for yourself ?

Can you do it using a credible news source???

Don't make me slap you, Milton.  

... by the way, aren't you supposed to be moving your desk... again? 

Looks like you've already gone for Option 2, the only real alternative. 

Putin gets to have his own version of Iraq...

(And, yes, I know you're talking about Iran, but it is only a piece in a much larger puzzle. We will huff and puff at the Iranian door, but we are not likely to blow it down.)

Looks like you've already gone for Option 2, the only real alternative.

Putin gets to have his own version of Iraq, the Europeans will sit on their hands because they are totally dependent on Russian natural gas exports, and George W can add failed policies in Georgia to his legacy.

On the up side, we all get to live, Nuggler's fear-mongering not withstanding.

(And, yes, I know you're talking about Iran, but it is only a piece in a much larger puzzle. We will huff and puff at the Iranian door, but we are not likely to blow it down.)

... That leaves two real choices:

1. Launch all of our nukes, and destroy the earth.

2. Sit on our hands, make innocuous paper tiger sound bite proclamations so it looks like we're involved, and generally look (rightly) like the idiot nation that we have degenerated into.

What's your pick?

I think we are talking World War III Blues...

...we seem pretty f@cked right now. We are not powerless. We just have no education or conditioning...