I don't see the US/Israel accepting any of that

Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, the Islamic Republic’s top security decision-making body, announced that “negotiations will begin with complete distrust of the American side on Friday, April 10, in Islamabad,” with 2 weeks allocated for talks to finalize the details of its 10-point demands and codify them into a binding UN Security Council resolution — which the Council says would make the agreements “binding international law.”

The council released a statement Wednesday morning outlining what it claims are the terms America has accepted in principle, and what Iran is formally emphasizing.

Trump, in a post on Truth social, wrote that Iran’s 10-point proposal constitutes “a workable basis on which to negotiate.”

💢 Here is what Iran’s Supreme National Security Council claims the U.S. has “fundamentally committed to”:

🔸 Guaranteeing non-aggression against Iran
🔸 Continued Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz
🔸 Accepting Iranian uranium enrichment
🔸 Lifting all primary and secondary sanctions
🔸 Ending all UN Security Council and IAEA Board of Governors resolutions
🔸 Paying war reparations to Iran
🔸 Withdrawing all U.S. combat forces from the region
🔸 Halting the war on all resistance fronts, “including against the heroic Islamic resistance of Lebanon” (Hezbollah)

💢 Later in the text, the document states that Iran’s formal 10-point demands, submitted via Pakistan, “emphasized”:

🔸 Controlled Hormuz passage coordinated with Iran’s armed forces, which it notes would grant Iran a “unique economic and geopolitical position”
🔸 The “necessity to end the war” against all Resistance axis factions – fronts listed in the document include Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Palestine (occupied territories) – described as the “historic defeat of the child-killing Israeli regime’s aggression”
🔸 Full withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from “all bases and deployment points in the region”
🔸 The establishment of a Strait of Hormuz safe-passage protocol “guaranteeing Iran’s control according to the agreed protocol”
🔸 “Full compensation to Iran according to assessments” of war damage
🔸 Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions, and resolutions of the IAEA Board of Governors and Security Council
🔸 Release of “all blocked Iranian assets abroad”
🔸 Finally, all the terms above codified in a “binding Security Council resolution” — which the document says would turn the agreements into “binding international law” and “an important diplomatic victory for the Iranian nation”​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

📌 The Council states that if the “enemy’s battlefield submission” is not translated into a “decisive political achievement” in negotiations, Iran will resume fighting “until all demands of the Iranian nation are met” — adding: “our hands are on the trigger, and the moment the slightest error is made by the enemy, it will be answered with full force.“

The podcast Today Explained draws the many parallels to Bush’s Iraq War/Mistake. 

 Red_Dragon wrote:


EDIT: Oh yeah - and the Zionists.

We have to save the wimmin from the very evil Muslims who will bring about the end of the world!

 islander wrote:
Trump has destroyed so much and his base is so focused on meme's instead of reason and logic, that any attack on the infrastructure at scale gives Iran the moral high ground... which was for decades inconceivable.  

The visualizations of the US decline following the start of the Iran war will be alongside Minard's flow map as the dumbest mistakes in history....

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Yeah. the right was always batshit crazy about communists and socialists - and who actually destroyed the country was a "businessman" and the Republican Party.

 islander wrote:

Nah it's gone already. Will take a generation before our kids can hold their heads high. edit: That's assuming he gets hit by a bus today. The longer he stays there, obv. ... 

 R_P wrote:

In addition to the humanitarian catastrophe, this will be a PR disaster for us. I'm still in shock that we are here. If this happens, the soul of this country is lost.

President Donald Trump has continued to describe the war against Iran as an unqualified success, saying as recently as Monday that the United States was doing “unbelievably well” while Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said Tehran had been “embarrassed and humiliated” by U.S. forces.”

 
Unbelievable to be sure.

Adults in the room

The Iran-y

Lived near Jubail in the late 70's before it got hyper-developed.

 kurtster wrote:
If you pretend you don't get that concept there's no point in arguing or, more likely, quibbling.

g'nite.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Isn't illegal aggression semantically the same as war ?

If not, what is the difference ?

And does not self defense mean that someone is at war with you already ?