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DaveInVA

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Posted: Dec 15, 2013 - 9:30am

 swell_sailor wrote:
For those of you listening to vinyl and using a moving magnet cartridge, check out this article on parallel resistive loading. This is some pretty cool info, especially if your cartridge seems overly bright. 

I've built three pair of modules. One cartridge, an Audio Technica AT 440 MLa, went from bright to luxuriously warm yet still detailed with the addition of a net 32k module. Another Audio Technica, the AT 150MLX needed only slight taming, and sounds best to my ears at a net 43k. 

Here's a photo of a pair of modules I made. Cheap and easy and oh what a difference. 




 
I make modules just like that for my moving coil cartridges. In fact on my DIY MC pre-preamp I added extra rca jacks in parallel with the input jacks for plugging them in.
swell_sailor

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Posted: Dec 15, 2013 - 9:26am

For those of you listening to vinyl and using a moving magnet cartridge, check out this article on parallel resistive loading. This is some pretty cool info, especially if your cartridge seems overly bright. 

I've built three pair of modules. One cartridge, an Audio Technica AT 440 MLa, went from bright to luxuriously warm yet still detailed with the addition of a net 32k module. Another Audio Technica, the AT 150MLX needed only slight taming, and sounds best to my ears at a net 43k. 

Here's a photo of a pair of modules I made. Cheap and easy and oh what a difference. 





swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 9:11pm

 Alexandra wrote:

 
I used to have a very clean red copy of Aja.

 
Mine's is black. I have a couple of red somethings. And a white something else. 


Alexandra

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 9:02pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

Not by me! (using Gaucho for Frisbee)

I have a very clean copy of Aja. 



 
 
I used to have a very clean red copy of Aja.
swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 9:00pm

Not by me! (using Gaucho for Frisbee)

I have a very clean copy of Aja. 




lily34

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 8:42pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

I think my copy of Gaucho was used as a Frisbee. 

 
STEELY DAN'S GAUCHO?? OMG

i'm not sure we can be friends anymore... 
you can make it up to me by listening to AJA instead.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 8:35pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

I think my copy of Gaucho was used as a Frisbee. 

 
the hell you say
Alexandra

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 7:40pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

I think my copy of Gaucho was used as a Frisbee. 

 
 
I don't know which is worse—using it as a Frisbee or selling it back to the record store to buy more alternative stuff.
swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 7:37pm

 Alexandra wrote:

 
 

 
 
Now you should play Gaucho.

 
I think my copy of Gaucho was used as a Frisbee. 
Alexandra

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 7:13pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

Well, after the Thorens knocked the Rega out of pole position I decided to see what I could do to give the Rega a fighting chance. I put a new cartridge on the Rega a couple of months ago and battled with it for weeks until I determined the stylus was defective. The replacement stylus came in this week and finally tonight I checked it out and it's working perfectly. Dave Mason just finished rocking the office. 

 
 
 

 
 
Now you should play Gaucho.
swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 7:09pm

 Alexandra wrote:

 
So what's in rotation tonight?

 
Well, after the Thorens knocked the Rega out of pole position I decided to see what I could do to give the Rega a fighting chance. I put a new cartridge on the Rega a couple of months ago and battled with it for weeks until I determined the stylus was defective. The replacement stylus came in this week and finally tonight I checked it out and it's working perfectly. Dave Mason just finished rocking the office. 


Alexandra

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 6:54pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

Thanks. I'm happy to report that the more I play it the more I come to realize what a great sounding table it is. I think it sounds better than my modern table, a Rega P3-24. The Rega is now in the office and may never make it back to the main system. 

 
 
So what's in rotation tonight?
swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 6:38pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

{#Hearteyes}

 
Thanks. I'm happy to report that the more I play it the more I come to realize what a great sounding table it is. I think it sounds better than my modern table, a Rega P3-24. The Rega is now in the office and may never make it back to the main system. 
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 6:24pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

I finally got around to taking a couple of photos of the turntable I restored last winter as completed. 



 
{#Hearteyes}
swell_sailor

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Posted: Nov 19, 2013 - 6:07pm

I finally got around to taking a couple of photos of the turntable I restored last winter as completed. 


ColdMiser

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 - 9:14am

 DaveInVA wrote:


For the amount of money you have to spend you will probably not find anything better than what you already have. The belt is easy to change and cheap. In addition to ebay sellers you can look for the belt at these places also:
Vintage-Electronics
Turntable Basics
LPGear
Needle Doctor 
 
I would use the remainder of the $200 to get a decent cartridge to get the best out of the lp's when ripping.
Dave

 

Thanks for your help Dave! Snap, Crackle and Pop!
swell_sailor

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 - 8:19am

 DaveInVA wrote:

Those motors usually just used a piece of teflon sheet with stickum on it for the thrust bearing and once they get damaged or worn it can cause inconsistant speed. The motor regulator/servo could be failing also. Monitor the voltage going to the motor with a dvm and some clips and watch it when it fails it will tell you if its a voltage regulator problem or a servo/motor problem. Those motors were not really meant to be fixed.
 
I suspect it's the motor, only because the platter moves fluidly when spun by hand. That it will come nearly to a stop, with no apparent resistance from the bearing, is very telling. If the speed were only inconsistent, that would be a different story. But when it stops, I could probably get it moving with the touch of a feather. 

So it will probably remain a record cleaning station. That's pretty handy anyway. Keeps me from stressing the ceramic bearing in my Rega.  
DaveInVA

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 - 8:12am

 swell_sailor wrote:
I have an old SL-1500 direct drive. The speed is really inconsistent. Sometimes it nearly slows to a stop. Not much for parts, as the platter is part of the motor. I lubricated the bearing some time ago, although I never got the sense that that was the problem. 

Anyway, I use the thing unplugged for cleaning albums before I play them on my Rega. It lives in the office. It would be nice if it worked. I wouldn't mind having a turntable in the office. But the thing used to belong to my brother, and I think he beat it up pretty good. I suspect I'd be better off finding a clean used table instead of investing in this one.

What do you think Dave? 
 
Those motors usually just used a piece of teflon sheet with stickum on it for the thrust bearing and once they get damaged or worn it can cause inconsistant speed. The motor regulator/servo could be failing also. Monitor the voltage going to the motor with a dvm and some clips and watch it when it fails it will tell you if its a voltage regulator problem or a servo/motor problem. Those motors were not really meant to be fixed.
swell_sailor

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 - 8:06am

I have an old SL-1500 direct drive. The speed is really inconsistent. Sometimes it nearly slows to a stop. Not much for parts, as the platter is part of the motor. I lubricated the bearing some time ago, although I never got the sense that that was the problem. 

Anyway, I use the thing unplugged for cleaning albums before I play them on my Rega. It lives in the office. It would be nice if it worked. I wouldn't mind having a turntable in the office. But the thing used to belong to my brother, and I think he beat it up pretty good. I suspect I'd be better off finding a clean used table instead of investing in this one.

What do you think Dave? 
DaveInVA

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Posted: Feb 15, 2012 - 7:49am

 ColdMiser wrote:

Dave, I have a Technics. The problem is the turntable doesn't turn. I took it apart and everything inside seems in tact. It may be the belt as there is a spindle that spins but there isn't anything connected to it. There is an elastic band around the inside of the platter that is broken, so that may be it.

I have a small receiver that I picked up long ago as a spare setup, nothing great but it does have a phono input. I got a USB recording device for christmas that i was planning on hooking up the turntable to.

I have no problem picking up something new instead of trying to repair the old one. I've got about 400 LPs so I guess I'm just a tosser, but it would be great to hear them all again and get them into the i-tunes rotation.
 

For the amount of money you have to spend you will probably not find anything better than what you already have. The belt is easy to change and cheap. In addition to ebay sellers you can look for the belt at these places also:
Vintage-Electronics
Turntable Basics
LPGear
Needle Doctor 
 
I would use the remainder of the $200 to get a decent cartridge to get the best out of the lp's when ripping.
Dave
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