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kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 5:59pm

Romulus wrote:

Those of you considering Hunstman, know this:

Huntsman: War With Iran Inevitable; Sanctions Won’t ‘Have Much Of An Impact’

He is just another slick talking sheep in wolf's clothing. The man will start WW3, and tow the foreign policy line just like Obama and Bush have done. Your vote for Hunstman won't end any wars, but starts new ones. I cringe at the thought....

Just a comment on Iran.

The British Embassy was overrun and set on fire in Tehran. This takes us a step closer to a crisis.

I'm not looking forward to any military action in Iran, but it seems like we will have little choice now.

islander

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 9:23am
Lazy8 wrote: steeler wrote: How so? If the Republican party wants to become a Christian Hezbollah that's their choice, but it makes me, at least, reallize that if I want a home base in American politics I'll have to help build one. The trick is building a very small platform that can hold a lot of people. But I'll bring my hammer and chip in.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 9:18am

Those of you considering Hunstman, know this:

Huntsman: War With Iran Inevitable; Sanctions Won’t ‘Have Much Of An Impact’

For us Dems in open states, we do have an opportunity to influence which Republican will be opposite Obama in the Presidential election.

There may be a tiny percentage of Dems who would vote for a least-threatening candidate... but I am part of the majority that would vote for the one who I would most want to be my Prez, if Obama loses.

I like what happened in the Ron Paul thread... where someone was explaining that Ron Paul is the only Peace candidate.

I'd love to hear more of other people's thoughts about who they like best... in the context of centrist or left-leaning voters. I haven't been able to stomach the debates, because the Republican attitude and direction is so far from what I would like. I mean, the crowd applauded Rick Perry's Death Penalty Record!?! No F*cking Way can I stand for that.

Rose, kudo's to you for voting. I think it's great that you're shaping the debate in who might face Obama. Ron Paul is the best option for D's. There are so many D's and I's that are crossing over just to vote for him. Checkout this great read on the Huff post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/blue-republican_b_886650.html

In the end, make up your own mind with thorough research. An informed voter is the best voter.

Lazy8

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:46am
steeler wrote: How so? If the Republican party wants to become a Christian Hezbollah that's their choice, but it makes me, at least, reallize that if I want a home base in American politics I'll have to help build one.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:46am

steeler wrote:

....Have the moderates in the party been cowed?

Very much so, imo. Michele Bachman is my HRep where my business is located. Her campaign literature is a hoot. Nelson Rockefeller types are now fringe candidates in the Republican party. I like Huntsman too. At least he is not simply "sound bytes", but can actually think on his feet and give thoughtful, cogent answers to questions. He has the credentials, but unfortunately for us, charisma and being good at shaking down people for money are prereq's, expecially for dark horse candidates. Seems he has little appetite for being a shill and giving robotic answers that are 20 seconds long.

He probably does have some "charisma" in there somewhere as he was previously elected governor of Utah, if I have my facts straight. He certainly must know China, and that's going to be a big deal in my estimation.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:40am
Lazy8 wrote: steeler wrote: I'd consider voting for Huntsman if he were the GOP nominee. He has not seemed able to gain much traction. Why does the GOP seem stuck in this deadend game of "Will the real conservative please stand up?" Have the moderates in the party been cowed? Driven out. Not such a bad thing, really: it clarifies things for the rest of us. How so?

Lazy8

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:38am
steeler wrote: I'd consider voting for Huntsman if he were the GOP nominee. He has not seemed able to gain much traction. Why does the GOP seem stuck in this deadend game of "Will the real conservative please stand up?" Have the moderates in the party been cowed? Driven out. Not such a bad thing, really: it clarifies things for the rest of us.

steeler

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:33am
Mugro wrote: Huntsman is a good pick, Rose. I'd consider voting for Huntsman if he were the GOP nominee. He has not seemed able to gain much traction. Why does the GOP seem stuck in this deadend game of "Will the real conservative please stand up?" Have the moderates in the party been cowed?

Mugro

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:25am
rosedraws wrote: Huntsman is trying to make a good showing in NH. He's my favorite, just based on news clips. He needs more money to make a showing though. I've somehow gotten on Ron Paul's call list... we get regular calls and poll calls and emails and mailings. It's so interesting being in NH. Huntsman is a good pick, Rose.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:22am
islander wrote: It's a wedge issue. People are fairly set, and it becomes a 'with us, or against us' checkbox that both sides use to cleave out blocks of support. Exactly. It's one reason (among many) I simply could not vote for a Republican, not with the current GOP platform.

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 8:01am
Alchemist wrote: You can take this poll to decide which candidate you most closely agree with. Newt, not a surprise.

hippiechick

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:26am

kurtster wrote:

Then why is Obama not hammering the Sanctuary Cities who openly defy federal law and hammering states like Arizona that reinforce federal laws ?

Why did Obama openly decide not to enforce federal laws regarding cannibus and dispensaries ?

Obama is clearly a selective enforcement guy. He is clearly in violation of his oath of office.

You have been in Chicago too long. Perhaps we could give Chicago to Mexico ?

Some downstate Republican wants us to be our own state!

He actually is enforcing fed laws in CA against growers and dispensaries.

Otherwise, I can't comment, I don't know the details.

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:19am

hippiechick wrote:

Not true, he is required as president to uphold the law of the land.

Black Panthers? As Beaker screams NON SEQUITER!

islander

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:18am

rosedraws wrote:

I couldn't sort out that Environment page...
My local Rep (Charlie Bass) is pro environment... you have to be, to be elected in New Hampshire. He'll vote against his party for Environment.

Are there really no Repub Prez candidates that are pro choice?

It's a wedge issue. People are fairly set, and it becomes a 'with us, or against us' checkbox that both sides use to cleave out blocks of support.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:15am
rosedraws wrote: I couldn't sort out that Environment page... My local Rep (Charlie Bass) is pro environment... you have to be, to be elected in New Hampshire. He'll vote against his party for Environment. Are there really no Repub Prez candidates that are pro choice? Romney used to be, then he flipped and he flopped.

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:13am
mzpro5 wrote: Republicans for Choice Republicans for Environmental Protection I couldn't sort out that Environment page... My local Rep (Charlie Bass) is pro environment... you have to be, to be elected in New Hampshire. He'll vote against his party for Environment. Are there really no Repub Prez candidates that are pro choice?

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:07am
Alchemist wrote: You can take this poll to decide which candidate you most closely agree with. Hermain Cain?? I doubt it. I really wanted to go back through the quiz to see which candidate said which statement, because 80% of the statements would make me campaign AGAINST that candidate.

hippiechick

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:07am
kurtster wrote: Obama did not have to challenge the ruling. He has a choice. Just like there was a choice not to persue the Black Panthers in Philadelphia over voter intimidation. Not true, he is required as president to uphold the law of the land. Black Panthers? As Beaker screams NON SEQUITER!

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:04am
hippiechick wrote: So you can attack me, and then say this? You are a riot Bokey! bokey wrote: Since you can't seem to restrain yourself from attacking everyone here over anything, please just don't respond to any of my posts at all. Thank you.

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 7:04am
meower wrote: i work harder than all you all. so there.

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