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Prodigal_SOB

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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 11:32am

 aflanigan wrote:
I was referring (figuratively) to the New Testament quote that Scott commented on.
 
 I knew what you meant.  Scaled down the way Scott quoted it though it almost looks literal and I had to comment on it.  I'm just a troublemaker.
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 11:24am

 MsJudi wrote:

Oh FFS, I'm about as fed up with this whole phoney "war on xmas" as I can be, an "issue" drummed up by right-wing talking heads to keep repub voters distracted while their beloved party robs them of their REAL rights and REAL jobs and REAL opportunities. Way to be distracted, alfanigan, your repub representatives love you for your political ADD.
 

Thank you for your criticism.  I'm honored!  I feel like Stephen Colbert must feel when liberals get outraged by the things he does on his show.

Satire: Definition
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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 10:43am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 
Astute observers, though, will spot the New Testament citation and say "yeah, he still got a Christian-bible thump in on 'em."  

 
Exactly. This wasn't a holiday greeting so much as a slap at Jews.

MsJudi

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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 10:42am

 aflanigan wrote:
Rick Santorum's campaign folks in S.C. sent out this greeting card last Christmas, that is utterly devoid of any mention of Christmas.

SRSLY!?  Holiday Season??  Do you really hate Christmas that much, folks, that you can't even mention it? 

 
Oh FFS, I'm about as fed up with this whole phoney "war on xmas" as I can be, an "issue" drummed up by right-wing talking heads to keep repub voters distracted while their beloved party robs them of their REAL rights and REAL jobs and REAL opportunities. Way to be distracted, alfanigan, your repub representatives love you for your political ADD.

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Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 10:11am

 Prodigal_SOB wrote:

 I think those are supposed to be dreidel but its hard to tell on this small monitor. 

 

I was referring (figuratively) to the New Testament quote that Scott commented on.
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 3:00pm

 mzpro5 wrote:

Seeing as how Santorum is a devout Catholic I can only think that this was sent out to Jewish voters in SC and Christian voters got one about Christmas.

They were just trying to cover all the bases.
 
It has a quote from the New Testament. Classy.

Prodigal_SOB

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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 2:52pm

 aflanigan wrote:
Yeah, the outreached hand of fellowship doesn't always work so well when you've got your middle finger raised, eh?
 
 I think those are supposed to be dreidel but its hard to tell on this small monitor. 
aflanigan

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Posted: Feb 9, 2012 - 10:49am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 
Astute observers, though, will spot the New Testament citation and say "yeah, he still got a Christian-bible thump in on 'em."  

 

Yeah, the outreached hand of fellowship doesn't always work so well when you've got your middle finger raised, eh?
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Posted: Feb 9, 2012 - 9:13am

 aflanigan wrote:
Rick Santorum's campaign folks in S.C. sent out this greeting card last Christmas, that is utterly devoid of any mention of Christmas.



SRSLY!?  Holiday Season??  Do you really hate Christmas that much, folks, that you can't even mention it? 
 
 
Astute observers, though, will spot the New Testament citation and say "yeah, he still got a Christian-bible thump in on 'em."  


aflanigan

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Posted: Feb 9, 2012 - 8:58am

 mzpro5 wrote:

Seeing as how Santorum is a devout Catholic I can only think that this was sent out to Jewish voters in SC and Christian voters got one about Christmas.

They were just trying to cover all the bases.
 

Nonsense!  This is a prime example of the "death by a thousand cuts" that conservatives are determined to impose on that most sacred holiday, Christmas!!!!



{#Wink}


mzpro5

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Posted: Feb 9, 2012 - 8:08am

 aflanigan wrote:
Rick Santorum's campaign folks in S.C. sent out this greeting card last Christmas, that is utterly devoid of any mention of Christmas.



SRSLY!?  Holiday Season??  Do you really hate Christmas that much, folks, that you can't even mention it? 

 
Seeing as how Santorum is a devout Catholic I can only think that this was sent out to Jewish voters in SC and Christian voters got one about Christmas.

They were just trying to cover all the bases.

aflanigan

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Posted: Feb 9, 2012 - 8:04am

Rick Santorum's campaign folks in S.C. sent out this greeting card last Christmas, that is utterly devoid of any mention of Christmas.



SRSLY!?  Holiday Season??  Do you really hate Christmas that much, folks, that you can't even mention it? 
aflanigan

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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 - 9:01am

During the holidays, many of us travel with our families back to the place we were born, to get in a little R&R during our Christmas break.  It's a fairly well established Christmas tradition (something I've done for years), but now, apparently conservatives are upset because the President is following this tradition.

Do conservatives hate Christmas so much they would criticize Obama for doing something many of us do every year?  It boggles the mind!

et tu, kurtster??

{#Wink}




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Posted: Nov 21, 2011 - 5:32am

 mzpro5 wrote:

WTF!?!

You post this, copy the incendiary portion but make no mention at all that it is a FALSE report. 

Yes your link is to snopes.com declares it false but you make no mention of that in your post.

Maybe a way to demonstrate some of the rumors out there against the current POTUS but it is 2 years old.

A bit disingenuous to say the least.
 
SOP I'm afraid
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Posted: Nov 21, 2011 - 5:30am

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The White House has decreed that its 2011 Christmas trees will be referred to as "Holiday trees" and will not display ornaments bearing religious themes.


Hello all,

Thought you might be interested in this information from the White House. This isn't a rumor; this is a fact.

We have a friend at church who is a very talented artist. For several years she, among many others, has painted ornaments to be hung on the various White House Christmas trees. The WH sends out an invitation to send an ornament and informs the artists of the theme for the year.

She got her letter from the WH recently. It said that they would not be called Christmas trees this year. They will be called Holiday trees. And, to please not send any ornaments painted with a religious theme.

She was very upset at this development and sent back a reply telling them that she painted the ornaments for Christmas trees and would not be sending any for display that left Christ out of Christmas.

Just thought you should know what the new residents in the WH plan for the future of America. If you missed his statement that "we do not consider ourselves a Christian Nation" this should confirm that he plans to take us away from our religious foundation as quickly as possible.



 
WTF!?!

You post this, copy the incendiary portion but make no mention at all that it is a FALSE report. 

Yes your link is to snopes.com declares it false but you make no mention of that in your post.

Maybe a way to demonstrate some of the rumors out there against the current POTUS but it is 2 years old.

A bit disingenuous to say the least.

islander

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Posted: Nov 12, 2011 - 9:49am

 kurtster wrote:

Idn't it ?

I don't speak for all conservatives, just myself.

I'm just playing off the title of the thread.

And a tax to pay for advertising of real trees ?  Hell, Christmas tree farms are so heavily subsidized by the government in the first place.

The growers can certainly pay for their own advertising, sheesh.

 
Really?  I'm just curious, I know we subsidize all kinds of agriculture for various reasons that are thinly veiled vote buying, but Christmas trees specifically? I wouldn't think there was enough constituents there, or money/influence to make it worth their while.
aflanigan

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Posted: Nov 12, 2011 - 9:35am

While the items posted here so far are relatively recent, the Conservative War on Christmas actually dates to the earliest days of this country.

PURITANS AND CHRISTMAS

. . . devout English-speaking conservative Christian Protestants were the first and most vociferous warriors against Christmas and banned its celebration because it had so far departed from their version of the true Christian message . . .



kurtster

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Posted: Nov 10, 2011 - 6:09pm

 aflanigan wrote:


So if conservatives suddenly believe in the separation clause, why do they accuse others who object to creches on government property for the same reason of making "war on Christmas"?  Why aren't they leading the war?

This is all too deliciously hypocritical!

 
Idn't it ?

I don't speak for all conservatives, just myself.

I'm just playing off the title of the thread.

And a tax to pay for advertising of real trees ?  Hell, Christmas tree farms are so heavily subsidized by the government in the first place.

The growers can certainly pay for their own advertising, sheesh.


Lazy8

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Posted: Nov 10, 2011 - 2:42pm

 aflanigan wrote:
My familiarity with these checkoff programs was previously close to nonexistent, but most of the news reports I've seen tend to support their effectiveness in boosting the sales/popularity of the various farm products (from blueberries to dairy).  Besides, as I tried to point out, my main goal is to point out the silliness of grandstanding campaigns decrying the "War on Christmas" mounted by folks like O'Reilly, John Gibson, and others that fasten onto news reports and snippets to promote the notion of a "liberal plot" against a culturally popular holiday.  I'm emulating their breathless denunciations for comic effect.  I guess with you, I've failed, eh?

History gets written by the victors and Media Relations managers with reporters on speed dial. I'm a very small player in a tiny corner of the ag market, and checkoff programs do nothing for me. I still get to pay for them, tho. So do you, for that matter—that checkoff fee doesn't come out of thin air. It raises production costs, which ultimately come out of the customer's pocket. So you're paying to find more customers to compete with you at the store and bid the price you pay up further.

I get the joke, just thought is was kinda thin. And the checkoff thing hits a nerve.

aflanigan

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Posted: Nov 10, 2011 - 2:23pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 aflanigan wrote:
Fine, you think checkoff programs are incompatible with your free-market principles.  So are subsidies and many other things the government does.  That's not why conservatives are protesting this, is it?

Couldn't care less why conservatives are protesting it, I'm concerned that you think it's worth defending.
 
My familiarity with these checkoff programs was previously close to nonexistent, but most of the news reports I've seen tend to support their effectiveness in boosting the sales/popularity of the various farm products (from blueberries to dairy).  Besides, as I tried to point out, my main goal is to point out the silliness of grandstanding campaigns decrying the "War on Christmas" mounted by folks like O'Reilly, John Gibson, and others that fasten onto news reports and snippets to promote the notion of a "liberal plot" against a culturally popular holiday.  I'm emulating their breathless denunciations for comic effect.  I guess with you, I've failed, eh?

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