Hey, what's one of the problems with being an Atheist?

   No one to talk to when you hit your finger with a hammer!

Hey, what did it say on the atheists tombstone?

  All dressed up with no place to go!

Ba da dum...

 hippiechick wrote: 

 A dictator? No. Sorry hc. Unlike many Liberals who made those charges against Mr. Bush, I won't level them against Mr. Obama. I have too much respect for the checks and balances built into our form of Government.
I said I supported the repeal of DADT. I also applauded the tax compromise he reached *even though Congress attempted to turn that into a Christmas tree of goodies*.  You know, a good number of people just a few weeks back said NO to Mr. Obama using other Democrats as their sounding board.

 geordiezimmerman wrote: 

Under any Presidency, it would be the work of Congress. A good thing? Agreed. But a President's powers are clearly enumerated in The Constitution and they are not as broad as some would think. They are actually quite limited given the nature of the Office.

 musik_knut wrote: 
Whatever he did would never be good enough for you, let's face it. If he did it all himself, you would call him a dictator.

 musik_knut wrote: 
Under his presidency, that'l do me. Either way, it's a good thing.

 geordiezimmerman wrote: 

Ummm. No. Congress allowed that.

 musik_knut wrote: 
He allowed gay and lesbians to be open about their sexuality in the armed forces.

 hippiechick wrote: 

On what is shaping up to be the centerpiece of his Presidency, he followed on health care. He allowed others to write that as well as the massive *and failed* stimulus. He did not admonish Congress to pass a budget, something he should have done. All along, on major bills, he followed.

 musik_knut wrote: 
Who is he following?

 marko86 wrote: 
Of course there has been some flaws, but as he says, he doesn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

 hippiechick wrote: 
Well, he's ok. There has been some flaws. Important thing is though, he is NOT George W. !!!

Funny how the bushisms are still flowing:

"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

 hippiechick wrote: 

I look at legislation that turns my stomach. Once Uncle Sam gets his tentacles into the Internet, it will never be free of increasing manipulation by Uncle Sam. Of course you think he is awesome. I just see a man, nothing more. I would have voted to repeal DADT and against the First Reponders Bill. I would have also voted NO on START. But, they passed, he gets credit and we move forward.

 musik_knut wrote: 
I think he is AWESOME!!! And continues to be AWESOME!!! Look at all the great legislation he just got passed!

 hippiechick wrote: 

As long as Mr. Obama plays the role of divider, it will not be easy to see him in another light. Btw, I have no guns. And I assume you will never see the 'clinging' comment as intolerance. If you don't mind, many will see the comment as snobbish, elitist and condescending. And for good reason. Mr. Obama also divides us into 'enemies'. You know hc, despite all your Obama comments, he still does not walk on water and he is still nothing but a follower.

 RichardPrins wrote: 

Okay, I will cede and say one of instead of the best.  That more accurately reflects my thoughts.  I'm no holy roller by any stretch; but if I'm going to be honest with myself I would have to say that a big part of my sense of right and wrong was borne out of catechism, religion, etc.  Similarly from my family which also had the church as an influence.  I'm just observing that they share quite a bit of common ground.  Of course with law you get jail and church you get damnation!

Atheists would gladly accept the damnation, agnostics would be a bit ambivialent, and true believers very worried I suspect.

 highwindows wrote: 
...I think we can safely bet that he won't be getting any of that!

 geordiezimmerman wrote: 
Well maybe not.....but tolerant & open minded as a religion (whoops sect) it certainly is not.
Ask BBC reporter John Sweeney!!

 hippiechick wrote:  
As someone who was raised Catholic you'll get no argument from me on that.  I don't think the most religious here would deny that religion and politics are inextricably intertwined.  Speaking for myself (and probably many others) this is what contibuted to my disillusionment with religion as I became an adult.

That said, even this political nation of ours was borne out of a desire for something better and I don't think religion is any different.

Removing the question of deity, God, etc., religion still has credible philosophical considerations of the human condition IMHO

 highwindows wrote: 
I agree but is it any more of a joke than believing some man in the sky created the universe in 7 days? Also I would argue that scientolgy is much more accepting than most religions.

 geordiezimmerman wrote: 

Oh I don't know!! I'm sure you could concoct something really zany to pull in the punters.
L.Ron Hubbard did !!