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Posted: Jan 13, 2019 - 10:20am

White House Sought Options to Strike Iran
State and Pentagon officials were rattled by the request

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Posted: Jan 6, 2019 - 1:42pm

American Exceptionalism Is a Dangerous Myth
Donald Trump has done more to elevate the left’s critique of U.S. foreign policy than any politician in modern memory.

As a presidential candidate, the mogul told Republican primary audiences that George W. Bush had lied the United States into Iraq; that said war had done a “tremendous disservice to humanity”; and that America could have saved countless lives by investing $5 trillion in domestic infrastructure instead. As commander-in-chief, Trump has suggested that there is no moral distinction between the U.S. and other great powers; that American foreign policy in the Middle East is largely dictated by the interests of arms manufacturers; and that the U.S. judges foreign regimes by their utility to American economic interests, not their commitment to human rights.

But if Trump’s descriptions of geopolitics echo Noam Chomsky, his prescriptions owe more to Attila the Hun. (...)

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Posted: Jan 4, 2019 - 6:39am



 R_P wrote:
How Trump is shrinking America’s imperialism
New Republican thinking was required and it’s here in spades with Mr. Trump’s disengagement and retrenchment initiatives. In effect, he’s downsizing U.S. imperialism, something the political left only could have dreamed about. But it’s hardly a big hit.

The American foreign policy establishment, all the inside-the-box thinkers, are outraged. They’re not used to being confronted like this. Collective security and traditional alliances are de-prioritized. Generals who Mr. Trump initially had on his team have been ushered out. The Iran nuclear deal has been abandoned, as has an arms treaty with Russia. The Afghanistan military commitment has been scaled back. A Syrian troop withdrawal prompted apoplexy.

The outrage is understandable, especially given the thimble-sized knowledge base underpinning Mr. Trump’s impulsive decision-making.

But it would be all the more understandable if the track record of the old guard had much to recommend it: If for example, the pros offered a way to win in Afghanistan and Syria, if they could explain why the Middle East should be an eternal American obsession, if they could offer a better rationale for an enduring military industrial complex that few have thought to question.

As James Fallows, the Atlantic writer who served back in the Jimmy Carter administration has written, there has been a striking lack of accountability for the endless wars and the military failures, for outmoded weapons systems and squandered resources.
 

if trump gets too frisky with this type of action  he will risk being "penta-gonged"

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Posted: Jan 3, 2019 - 6:43pm

How Trump is shrinking America’s imperialism
New Republican thinking was required and it’s here in spades with Mr. Trump’s disengagement and retrenchment initiatives. In effect, he’s downsizing U.S. imperialism, something the political left only could have dreamed about. But it’s hardly a big hit.

The American foreign policy establishment, all the inside-the-box thinkers, are outraged. They’re not used to being confronted like this. Collective security and traditional alliances are de-prioritized. Generals who Mr. Trump initially had on his team have been ushered out. The Iran nuclear deal has been abandoned, as has an arms treaty with Russia. The Afghanistan military commitment has been scaled back. A Syrian troop withdrawal prompted apoplexy.

The outrage is understandable, especially given the thimble-sized knowledge base underpinning Mr. Trump’s impulsive decision-making.

But it would be all the more understandable if the track record of the old guard had much to recommend it: If for example, the pros offered a way to win in Afghanistan and Syria, if they could explain why the Middle East should be an eternal American obsession, if they could offer a better rationale for an enduring military industrial complex that few have thought to question.

As James Fallows, the Atlantic writer who served back in the Jimmy Carter administration has written, there has been a striking lack of accountability for the endless wars and the military failures, for outmoded weapons systems and squandered resources.

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Posted: Jan 3, 2019 - 6:25pm



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Not sure I've ever heard of him but yeah.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2019 - 3:17pm

Full email from William Arkin, leaving NBC and MSNBC
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Posted: Dec 31, 2018 - 9:03pm



 westslope wrote:
Two reflections on recent posts to this thread.

1.  The rich west should not be in conflict with Russia.  NATO provoked this by handing out membership to former Soviet Union countries.  In doing so it ignored the success of two armed-neutral and highly successful neighbours to the north.

- On a related note, it would appear the influence of Russian hackers over the 2016 presidential election asymptotically converged on zero.


2.  Trump was correct to order a withdrawal of US troops in Syria.  Policy should not be determined by the US armed forces penchant for never-ending wars, . 

- Da'esh/ISIS was the target/justification, it is largely resolved, 
- fantasies of effecting top down regime change in Syria are just that:  fantasies.  Cruel ones at that, given the cost civilians ultimately pay. 
- order needs to return, for the benefit of civilians
- the Russians can help sort this out.  And pay for it.  
- the Turks are staying involved, for better or for worse
- the USA has no interest in being closely identified with Israeli efforts to weaken and destabilize the Bashar al-Assad regime


Full disclosure:  At no time have I received compensation from Team Trump.   Some weightier policy matters will outlive President Trump's remaining time in office.
 
Handing out membership??  It's not a frikin gentleman's club.

Yeah, I really pine for the days where Russia occupied surrounding countries and those independent nations have no right to negotiate treaties to try to maintain their security when confronted by a hostile neighbour.  And the Whitehouse dofus in chief is basically telling Putin to go ahead and re-create the SU. Just effin great for world peace.

The main issue in Syria was the Syrian peoples' right to chose their government. I do believe that Obama stuffed it up royally, and ISIS took full advantage, but they were opportunists and not the source. The Russians can sort this out by supporting yet another dictator, expanding their influence into the region, destabilizing the area, and supporting wiping out the Kurds and reformists who wanted to move to a freer nation. There will be huge long-term consequences of the poorly not even thought out US withdrawal that totally fucks their allies, and strengthens multiple despots.  btw, it was in no way an Israeli plot. Heck they have been happy to try and destroy their most progressive and diverse neighbour, Lebanon. All countries have an interest in getting rid of someone who used chemical weapons against his own people.




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Posted: Dec 31, 2018 - 4:19pm

Two reflections on recent posts to this thread.

1.  The rich west should not be in conflict with Russia.  NATO provoked this by handing out membership to former Soviet Union countries.  In doing so it ignored the success of two armed-neutral and highly successful neighbours to the north.

- On a related note, it would appear the influence of Russian hackers over the 2016 presidential election asymptotically converged on zero.


2.  Trump was correct to order a withdrawal of US troops in Syria.  Policy should not be determined by the US armed forces penchant for never-ending wars, . 

- Da'esh/ISIS was the target/justification, it is largely resolved, 
- fantasies of effecting top down regime change in Syria are just that:  fantasies.  Cruel ones at that, given the cost civilians ultimately pay. 
- order needs to return, for the benefit of civilians
- the Russians can help sort this out.  And pay for it.  
- the Turks are staying involved, for better or for worse
- the USA has no interest in being closely identified with Israeli efforts to weaken and destabilize the Bashar al-Assad regime


Full disclosure:  At no time have I received compensation from Team Trump.   Some weightier policy matters will outlive President Trump's remaining time in office.
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Posted: Dec 31, 2018 - 3:37pm

The Good War
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Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 5:01pm

To defend a country you need an army
but to defend a civilization you need education.
 - Jonathan Sacks


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Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 4:10pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I'd vote for a presidential candidate who's first act in office would be to withdraw all US military from everywhere outside US territory.

 
Putin would approve.
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Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 12:02pm

Mission accomplished...
It’s fascinating to hear these tweets from Trump claiming, on the one hand, we’ve defeated ISIS, and that’s why we’re coming out, at the same time saying, well, ISIS hasn’t been defeated, but we’re going to leave it to the people in whether it’s Syria, whether it’s Russia, whether it’s Iran; it’ll be their job to wipe them out.

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Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 8:46am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 westslope wrote:
Things change fast. 

Trump has now announced the withdrawal of US troops from Syria.   Pundits are forecasting a negative outcome for Kurdish militants.  

Does this mean the US will stop aerial bombing Syrian targets?  


 
A momentary lapse of insanity?  Possible positive side effect of an improved Russian relationship?  You know getting along with Russia is not the worst thing that can happen.  Could there be a softening coming in regards to Iran as well?  Stay tuned folks, if Bolton aka the "Walrus of Death" gets ousted, things might be about to get better.  Then crazy ass Guiliani and who knows maybe something can be salvaged.  One can always hope.
{#Pray}

 
It seems more like an appeasement to Turkey to me, but who knows?  It would be good to never have to even think of John Bolton again, much less see him.

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Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 8:35am

 westslope wrote:
Things change fast. 

Trump has now announced the withdrawal of US troops from Syria.   Pundits are forecasting a negative outcome for Kurdish militants.  

Does this mean the US will stop aerial bombing Syrian targets?  


 
A momentary lapse of insanity?  Possible positive side effect of an improved Russian relationship?  You know getting along with Russia is not the worst thing that can happen.  Could there be a softening coming in regards to Iran as well?  Stay tuned folks, if Bolton aka the "Walrus of Death" gets ousted, things might be about to get better.  Then crazy ass Guiliani and who knows maybe something can be salvaged.  One can always hope. {#Pray}
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Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 8:21am

westslope wrote:
Things change fast.

Trump has now announced the withdrawal of US troops from Syria. Pundits are forecasting a negative outcome for Kurdish militants.

Does this mean the US will stop aerial bombing Syrian targets?

Bombing doesn't count as war, at least as far as congress is concerned.

Hell, war doesn't count as war either. The Kurds will be abandoned to their fate the moment they're no longer useful.
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Posted: Dec 19, 2018 - 3:41pm

Things change fast. 

Trump has now announced the withdrawal of US troops from Syria.   Pundits are forecasting a negative outcome for Kurdish militants.  

Does this mean the US will stop aerial bombing Syrian targets?  



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Posted: Dec 15, 2018 - 12:28pm



 R_P wrote:
How unexpected!
America’s hidden war in Syria
U.S. troops will now stay in Syria indefinitely, controlling a third of the country and facing peril on many fronts

 
More top-down, violent regime change in the cards?

This is most unfortunate.  I believe there is a widespread impression outside of the USA that Americans do not care at all about the welfare of ordinary Syrians.  

Perhaps one day, the Kurdish fighters will realize that the Americans do not really care about their political autonomy or aspirations for statehood and will stop supporting US initiatives.   Perhaps Turkish troops will ultimately attack American soldiers if the latter happen to be fighting along side Kurds.

Prediction:  lots of civilians will die. 

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Posted: Dec 15, 2018 - 11:57am

How unexpected!
America’s hidden war in Syria
U.S. troops will now stay in Syria indefinitely, controlling a third of the country and facing peril on many fronts

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Posted: Oct 9, 2018 - 2:00pm

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No reason the hospital couldn't be turned over to the Germans and remain open.

 
That hospital is where the most seriously wounded soldiers are sent, closest to wherever the fighting is. One likes to imagine we wouldn't need it anymore. But your point is well taken.

Still, it would take years to scale back US influence in the area, since the base supports many thousands of non-military jobs, apartment and house rentals, etc. Not that we shouldn't consider it, but it's a huge undertaking that would require careful planning to prevent the collapse of the local economy. The area is highly dependent on military folks spending their money there. Not to mention the hundreds of on-base jobs occupied by German nationals, from the NCO club to the barbershop.
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Posted: Oct 9, 2018 - 12:52pm



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No reason the hospital couldn't be turned over to the Germans and remain open.
 

Yes.  In addition to the fact the original purpose of American bases in Germany no longer holds.  The Cold War ended in the early 1990s.
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