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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 5:37pm

 buzz wrote:
Does anyone here remember 9/11 when police officers ran into the World Trade Center to save lives. Many never came out.
 
Doing ones duty is honorable, but there are no selfless acts. Dying for duty doesn't make one good... dying for another does. This has been my opinion, not a fact. As I've said, there are some good cops... there are also too many bad ones. We shouldn't try to justify bad apples by example of good ones.


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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 5:37pm

 buzz wrote:
Does anyone here remember 9/11 when police officers ran into the World Trade Center to save lives. Many never came out.

 

Yes. and the Firemen too
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 5:32pm

 buzz wrote:
Does anyone here remember 9/11 when police officers ran into the World Trade Center to save lives. Many never came out.

 
I do.

I haven't had a lot of encounters with the police - an accident or two, the occasional traffic stop, and a couple of parties in college that got out of hand. My observation has been that if you don't give them attitude or act like you might be a problem, you'll usually get treated respectfully. They're doing a dangerous and difficult job that we all need and expect them to do, and yet somehow a lot of us resent them for doing it. (If you don't like the law, don't blame the police and give them sh*t about it - they didn't write the laws, you and your representatives did.) Yes, sometimes they seem aggressive or bullying. Sometimes that's necessary for them to establish control of a situation.

I realize there are examples of police brutality and misconduct. There are also examples of misconduct among sailors, novelists, accountants, garbage truck drivers, interior decorators, librarians, unemployed bicycle repairmen, go-go dancers, doctors, dentists, etc. They are far and away the minority in every case, and to tar every cop with the "thug" label is no different and no better than the mindset that every citizen is a criminal waiting to get caught.

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 5:22pm

Does anyone here remember 9/11 when police officers ran into the World Trade Center to save lives. Many never came out.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 4:53pm

 Sean-E-Sean wrote:
...a certain rp member helped me to change my opinion...somewhat...about police...just because a person is a cop doesn't make them an asshole...being an asshole makes them an asshole...

 
Oh? I'd be interested to hear how this person justifies epidemic police brutality in practically every American city then.

Not being a gun advocate I'd go so far as to say that the only good reason to pack is to protect yourself against the police.

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 4:15pm

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I haven't watched it either, but wonder why it was dragged up again.
 
I was very concerned about this story when it first came out and I still am. Yeah, it's old, but I happened on it last night and it made me very angry again. I don't think the people that were abused ever saw justice... I think what that cop did was cowardly and wicked. But just because he wears a badge he holds some Nazi-like power over innocent people. I have never met a cop... ever... that wasn't some arrogant prick living a playground bullies dream. I am still absolutely certain there are some good cops... but given the human tradition of failing virtue, how long can they remain thus and keep their jobs? I brought it up again simply because I don't think abominable acts like this should be lightly cast aside and ignored... because how we think on these things and respond to them defines us.

A playful family dog shot down for no ill intent at all, before the family that loved him and begged for him to simply be left in the car where he was safe, indicates to me that this was a willful evil act that EVERYBODY saw... but no attempt at justice was ever seen. Because IT was just a dog? What about a best friend betrayed in cold blood? It makes me sick to my heart. This, to me, says something about our society we should be concerned about... we should be sick about, and intolerant of.

In the past eight years I don't think we've risen above this kind of apathy.


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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 10:01am

 duchamp wrote:

I called 911 once and they didn't come.      I stand by my assessment and not because of that one incident.  

 
I'll have to say I think our local cops do a pretty good job.

Last week when my car radio was stolen I called the police at their listed number - not 911 because the radio and thief were long gone and I didn't feel it was an emergency, which I explained to the person who answered.. 

They still were here within 5 minutes of my call and very nice even though we both knew there was very little they could do.

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:31am

 Beaker wrote:
Was at the local police station this weekend.  Had something for them.  They told me to buzz off — didn't want any longer what I gots.  Then I made 'em laugh and went on my way.

 
Still trying to unload those 8-tracks? Let it GO, man.

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:27am

 JrzyTmata wrote:
you'll like em plenty when you need em.

 
The only times I've really needed them, they were utterly ineffectual. The other times I've encountered them? Aggressive jerks.

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:26am

 Sean-E-Sean wrote:


...have yet to 'need' them in my life...

 
I called 911 once and they didn't come.      I stand by my assessment and not because of that one incident.  


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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:24am

 JrzyTmata wrote:
you'll like em plenty when you need em.

 

...have yet to 'need' them in my life...
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:18am

 callum wrote:

As a mathematician, what about the group of good people, or the group of groupless people?

 
Just One reason I don't trust the Mathematicians.  {#Lol}
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:17am

 JrzyTmata wrote:
you'll like em plenty when you need em.
 
{#Yes}

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:16am

you'll like em plenty when you need em.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 8:14am

 emeraldrose63 wrote:


Well, I am so glad that you said that.. I think this thread is a bit much. You can take any group of people, name it and find bad videos on each

 
{#Yes}

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 7:58am

 callum wrote:

As a mathematician, what about the group of good people, or the group of groupless people?

 

...plus, who would the "control" group be?


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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 7:53am

I trust the police... to be police. I have no problem with them. I am just more comfortable when they are not around. {#Roflol}
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 7:50am

 callum wrote:

As a mathematician, what about the group of good people, or the group of groupless people?

 

{#Lol}

Well , my nephew is a stand=up police officer in Memphis,Tn.
I love him, and I'll stick up for him any day!

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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 7:43am

 emeraldrose63 wrote:


Well, I am so glad that you said that.. I think this thread is a bit much. You can take any group of people, name it and find bad videos on each

 
As a mathematician, what about the group of good people, or the group of groupless people?
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 - 7:42am

 Sean-E-Sean wrote:
...a certain rp member helped me to change my opinion...somewhat...about police...just because a person is a cop doesn't make them an asshole...being an asshole makes them an asshole...

 

Well, I am so glad that you said that.. I think this thread is a bit much. You can take any group of people, name it and find bad videos on each


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