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Posted: Dec 21, 2022 - 1:04pm

Warren, Jacobs Accuse Pentagon of Vastly Undercounting Civilians Killed by US Military
"Every time Congress is briefed about an instance of civilian harm, we are almost always told that the service member followed the proper protocol and processes," Jacobs told Politico earlier this month. "So I think it's clear that it's an institutional not an individual problem."

While it is notoriously difficult to track how many civilians have been killed by a military that, in the words of Gen. Tommy Franks, doesn't "do body counts," researchers at the Costs of War Project at Brown University's Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs estimate that combatants on all sides of the U.S.-led War on Terror have killed as many as 387,000 civilians as of late last year.

Airwars, meanwhile, said last September that U.S. airstrikes alone have killed as many as 48,000 civilians in nearly 100,000 bombings in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen since 2001.

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Posted: Dec 17, 2022 - 1:03pm

Not a Joke, the Pentagon Wants to Name a Warship the USS Fallujah
Why is the U.S. choosing to celebrate its most murderous and merciless battles in Iraq
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Posted: Dec 16, 2022 - 8:31am

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Yes, would love to see two years of 'service to community' —> I honestly think young people would be on side for that.



A: what are you doing here? 

B: AmeriCorps/ VISTA, etc. are for just this sort of thing.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2022 - 6:06am

 phineas wrote:
Yes, would love to see two years of 'service to community' —> I honestly think young people would be on side for that.


I see the signs on the highway "this stretch is maintained by XX's money" and think, "no, someone needs to get off their ass and come out here and pick up."

Instead of incarcerating nonviolent criminals, make them clean up a block for a few months, or work in a food bank, or work at a library.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2022 - 3:03am

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OTOH, all Americans should be mandated to spend one or two years in military service or the equivalent.

For a large number of conscripts, military training would be cruel and unusual punishment.   Health....

Might want to include a social service option.  Or a play video games option.

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Posted: Dec 15, 2022 - 12:50pm

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Yeah but what about my bone spurs?

Ivy League educated... critical thinking about international issues won't be a problem when you need money and can't get it from US banks.  NEXT....

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Posted: Dec 15, 2022 - 12:46pm

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Yep, people need to have skin in the game.   Makes them pay closer attention to the world and the so called big picture.

Their decisions might be a little bit more enlightened as a result. Or not, as our education system is a shambles and not conducive to making critical thinkers.



Yeah but what about my bone spurs?
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Posted: Dec 15, 2022 - 5:40am

 Steely_D wrote:
OTOH, all Americans should be mandated to spend one or two years in military service or the equivalent.
 
Yep, people need to have skin in the game.   Makes them pay closer attention to the world and the so called big picture.

Their decisions might be a little bit more enlightened as a result. Or not, as our education system is a shambles and not conducive to making critical thinkers.

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Posted: Dec 14, 2022 - 10:45am

The Empire is going down: 

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Posted: Dec 11, 2022 - 6:28pm

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I've long thought that Heinlein's idea that two years of national service be required for full citizenship to be something considered, but have always eschewed the military side of it.


Yes, would love to see two years of 'service to community' —> I honestly think young people would be on side for that.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2022 - 6:21pm

 Steely_D wrote:
OTOH, all Americans should be mandated to spend one or two years in military service or the equivalent.

Freedumb!

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Posted: Dec 11, 2022 - 6:12pm

 Steely_D wrote:


OTOH, all Americans should be mandated to spend one or two years in military service or the equivalent.


I've long thought that Heinlein's idea that two years of national service be required for full citizenship to be something considered, but have always eschewed the military side of it.
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Posted: Dec 11, 2022 - 6:07pm

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OTOH, all Americans should be mandated to spend one or two years in military service or the equivalent.
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Posted: Dec 11, 2022 - 4:19pm

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I think the military's difficulty in meeting enlistment quotas has pretty much everything to do with this.

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Posted: Dec 3, 2022 - 7:28am

This one is for RP lol:
 
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Posted: Nov 17, 2022 - 6:58am

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“Each American embassy comes with two permanent features – a giant anti-American demonstration and a giant line for American visas. Most demonstrators spend half their time burning Old Glory and the other half waiting for green cards.”

— P.J. O'Rourke



Ah yep.


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