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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 6:44pm

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{#Shifty}  Sorry for hijacking the forum but I have no idea how to access PMs from the iPhone or even if it is possible. Anyways, I PMed you!  {#Jump}

 
Well it is the Oklahoma Question thread, eh ?

You're in the right place.

{#Lol}

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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 6:42pm

 BluEyes wrote:


{#Shifty}  Sorry for hijacking the forum but I have no idea how to access PMs from the iPhone or even if it is possible. Anyways, I PMed you!  {#Jump}

 
received and replied!  {#Hug}
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 6:36pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

{#Dancingbanana}
 

{#Shifty}  Sorry for hijacking the forum but I have no idea how to access PMs from the iPhone or even if it is possible. Anyways, I PMed you!  {#Jump}
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 6:30pm

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Where's the list that you are referring to please. I'd like to see it..

 
I have seen the occaisional list that P refers to.  Can't find a handy one, though.

Here is the Federal Governments lists, a bit confusing and only with data about 4th and 8th grades.   I think that it is safe to say that most of the core learning is done by 8th grade anyway.

Clicky here

you will find an interactive chart where you can click here and there and find comparisons to national averages and whatnot.  It is of itself rather meaningless without digging deeper to find the actual rankings list.  To go deeper, you must double click on a state to get to here

Pick any state, it doesn't matter it is the only way to get to the meaningful stuff.
Under the map you will find a chart that gives rankings by grade and subject and to the very end of the row is a button that says compare.  It looks like it is grayed out and not active, but it is, click on it.

You should end up here  (upon testing of the links, it returns you to the one above, so you must double click on the state to get to the next step)

Once again the map is meaningless.  Look right above the map and you will find a link to Stat Comparison Table.  Click on it.

Finally, you will reach a table in a new window with numerical listings from top to bottom.  All the states will be there.  You will have to hit compare on each 8th grade line item to find out each states ranking for that particular subject. 

Its a real pain in the butt to get the info, but it is there.  If anyone knows a better way or link, by all means, please share it.



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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 5:55pm

 BluEyes wrote:

I cannot access those from the phone. We are stuck in a huge traffic snarl as the graduates are returning to Fort Sill. We will try to get on the computer in the motel lobby but that will be an hour or so.

 
{#Dancingbanana}

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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 5:54pm

 triskele wrote:

he sent you a pm!


 


I cannot access those from the phone. We are stuck in a huge traffic snarl as the graduates are returning to Fort Sill.

We will try to get on the computer in the motel lobby but that will be an hour or so.
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 5:37pm

 kurtster wrote:

I think that either South Carolina or Mississippi comes in last, not sure.  Its all crazy.

Priorities are messed up for sure.
 

Where's the list that you are referring to please. I'd like to see it..
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 5:32pm

From Steven Colbert: "Better watch the cows, they may be secret mooooooooooo-slims!"
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 4:35pm

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Looking for Schlabby! Limited navigation online with my cell phone ;( we are in Lawton now and will be in OKC on Saturday.

 
he sent you a pm!

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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 4:35pm

 kurtster wrote:

I think that either South Carolina or Mississippi comes in last, not sure.  Its all crazy.

Priorities are messed up for sure.
 
ayup

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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 3:09pm

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but state question 744 (i think that was the number), to designate more of the state's budget money for schools and teachers' salaries, in order to bring OK up to the standards of neighboring states, was overwhelmingly voted DOWN.  80% of ballots cast were NO.  OK is ranked 49th in the country, not sure who is 50th, as far as the education system.
 
I think that either South Carolina or Mississippi comes in last, not sure.  Its all crazy.

Priorities are messed up for sure.

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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 3:06pm

 kurtster wrote:
Oklahoma Question 755 passed overwhelmingly.  Is it an unnecessary law ?  Evidently not as its margin of victory is very revealing.
Question 755 (International Law)
Result Votes Percentage
 Yes    695,568            70.08%
  No296,903     29.92%      
Total votes992,471      100.00%     
Voter turnout %


 
Popularity does not equal necessity!

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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 3:05pm

 triskele wrote:

but state question 744 (i think that was the number), to designate more of the state's budget money for schools and teachers' salaries, in order to bring OK up to the standards of neighboring states, was overwhelmingly voted DOWN.  80% of ballots cast were NO.  OK is ranked 49th in the country, not sure who is 50th, as far as the education system.


 


Looking for Schlabby!

Limited navigation online with my cell phone ;(

we are in Lawton now and will be in OKC on Saturday.
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 2:56pm

 kurtster wrote:
Oklahoma Question 755 passed overwhelmingly.  Is it an unnecessary law ?  Evidently not as its margin of victory is very revealing.
Question 755 (International Law)
Result Votes Percentage
 Yes    695,568            70.08%
  No296,903     29.92%      
Total votes992,471      100.00%     
Voter turnout %


 
but state question 744 (i think that was the number), to designate more of the state's budget money for schools and teachers' salaries, in order to bring OK up to the standards of neighboring states, was overwhelmingly voted DOWN.  80% of ballots cast were NO.  OK is ranked 49th in the country, not sure who is 50th, as far as the education system.

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Posted: Nov 3, 2010 - 8:16pm

Oklahoma Question 755 passed overwhelmingly.  Is it an unnecessary law ?  Evidently not as its margin of victory is very revealing.
Question 755 (International Law)
Result Votes Percentage
 Yes    695,568            70.08%
  No296,903     29.92%      
Total votes992,471      100.00%     
Voter turnout %



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Posted: Oct 2, 2010 - 9:00pm

  • In a poll conducted by SoonerPoll.com, 49 percent of voters polled stated that they were for the measure. The poll surveyed likely registered voters in the state, which included 385 Democrats, 340 Republicans and 31 independents. The margin of error was reported to be 3.57 percentage points and was commissioned by the Tulsa World.<9>
Date of Poll Pollster In favor Opposed Undecided Number polled
July 16-21, 2010SoonerPoll.com49%24%27%755

Two measures aimed at illegal immigration received even greater approval. State Question 751, which would make English the state's official language, was favored by 85 percent; SQ 746, to require photo identification to vote, was favored by 83 percent.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=19&articleid=20100805_16_A9_Amswhr19725





And


State Question 755 has received national attention, and Duncan has been interviewed about the proposal by several national news outlets.

However, the proposal appeared less controversial among Oklahoma legislators. House Joint Resolution 1056 passed the Oklahoma House of Representatives on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 82-10 vote and cleared the Senate on a bipartisan 41-2 vote.

Duncan has predicted the measure will receive similar overwhelming support from voters. Recent polling indicates the measure will pass, although many citizens remain uncertain. A poll conducted July 16 to 21 for The Tulsa World found that 49 percent of likely voters supported State Question 755, while 24 percent opposed it and 27 percent were undecided.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 4:55pm

 kurtster wrote:
Perhaps this is an intent that Oklahoma Question 755 is well suited for:

Just heard on the radio, no not Rush, that the US State Department has submitted Arizona's 1070 to the United Nations for review for possible Human Rights violations.  WTF ?

This is an internal affair undergoing an internal Constitutional review. 



 
Great.  Just great.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 4:44pm

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Isn't that one of the reasons WW I got so out of hand?
 
Ayup.  'Zactly what George was talking about.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2010 - 4:40pm

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No, definitely not good for our country either.  Besides, I love women. 

Probably overkill because The US Constitution already guarentees a seperation between Church and State, which Sharia Law is clearly not in keeping with that.  That would be a State endorsement of a particular religion.

But you never know, cause most politicians wipe their posterior with the Constitution.
 
I'm not quite sure which components you are referring to, but the first amendment says:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.".

It rightly says that Congress (the State in this case) doesn't support or interfere with any religion directly. People can gather up under any peaceful cause they want and complain to their representatives without interference.  Seems pretty reasonable to me. Sharia, like many other sets of "God's laws" has many different interpretations depending on if the followers are modernist, fundamentalist, evangelical...