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JrzyTmata

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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:42am

society's complete dependence on electronic media is scary. POOF! you're deleted.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:37am

 hippiechick wrote:

Why would a person buy a heavy book if s/he could download it onto a reader, have the reader read it, have a children's book be interactive, thereby entertaining as well as educating. And if you want to print it out, you can print it from your own printer at home. I have read articles about 3-D printers that will "print" a table right in your own home.

Remember cd's? I used to go into Borders and listen to music on their stations, then buy a few cd's. Who does that now? Well, nobody, because Borders doesn't even carry cd's for the most part any more.

I remember when every household had a set of encyclopedias. Parents saved their pennies to be able to afford a set for their children.

How many people still have land lines? Phone books?

I went to a seminar once where the guy said you can be the best buggy whip manufacturer in the world, but if no one needs a buggy whip...

I would bet money on print as we know it being completely gone within 10 years.
 
Millions of people still buy CDs, though the numbers are dropping slowly.  I haven't even been in a Border's in a few years.

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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:33am

 Proclivities wrote:

I imagine the press runs of new books may be smaller than before, but we can probably choose from billions of books in existence, to put on the shelves that get built. 

 
True enough.  I may have to build one for the Mark Twain biography (volume 1) that is over 750 pages of fine print.  {#Lol}

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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:29am

 RASPUTIN wrote:


Interesting.  I've wondered about this too.  Personally, I like looking up on the book shelves and seeing my books.  Plus, I like building book shelves!  It'll be interesting to see over the next few years how this plays out.

 
I imagine the press runs of new books may be smaller than before, but we can probably choose from the billions of books in existence to put on the shelves that get built. 


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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:23am

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People thought stone tablets were pretty cool before there was papyrus.

I think the decline of paper use is a good thing, but then I'm a tree hugger.  I think there will probably always be books, but they will become luxury items for collectors.

 
Why would a person buy a heavy book if s/he could download it onto a reader, have the reader read it, have a children's book be interactive, thereby entertaining as well as educating. And if you want to print it out, you can print it from your own printer at home. I have read articles about 3-D printers that will "print" a table right in your own home.

Remember cd's? I used to go into Borders and listen to music on their stations, then buy a few cd's. Who does that now? Well, nobody, because Borders doesn't even carry cd's for the most part any more.

I remember when every household had a set of encyclopedias. Parents saved their pennies to be able to afford a set for their children.

How many people still have land lines? Phone books?

I went to a seminar once where the guy said you can be the best buggy whip manufacturer in the world, but if no one needs a buggy whip...

I would bet money on print as we know it being completely gone within 10 years.

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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:15am

 oldslabsides wrote:


People thought stone tablets were pretty cool before there was papyrus.

I think the decline of paper use is a good thing, but then I'm a tree hugger.  I think there will probably always be books, but they will become luxury items for collectors.

 

Interesting.  I've wondered about this too.  Personally, I like looking up on the book shelves and seeing my books.  Plus, I like building book shelves!  It'll be interesting to see over the next few years how this plays out.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:15am

 oldslabsides wrote:


People thought stone tablets were pretty cool before there was papyrus.

I think the decline of paper use is a good thing, but then I'm a tree hugger.  I think there will probably always be books, but they will become luxury items for collectors.

 
whatever happened to the paperless society we were supposed to have? 
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:15am

 oldslabsides wrote:


People thought stone tablets were pretty cool before there was papyrus.

I think the decline of paper use is a good thing, but then I'm a tree hugger.  I think there will probably always be books, but they will become luxury items for collectors.



 


Yea I am a tree lover to. Recycling is a GOOD thing.

I would be curious to see the numbers on deforesting for habitation and for printing purposes.

I of course see this point as happening, but I still love doing my watercolors. Guess its time to learn how to make my own paper!!!!
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:15am

 hippiechick wrote:

Ever is a long time {#Wink}

With the advent of book readers in color, and the opportunity for interactivity, books will continue to disappear. Just like dvds. And magazines are ideal for a reader. Newspapers are already ringing the death knell. The difficulty is getting people to pay for internet content like they pay for paper.

And everyone I know prints in China, forcing the closing of US printers. Kiss print goodbye.

 

I don't know if print media will never be completely gone.  It may soon be relegated to a cult status like vinyl records though.  I believe there will always be a certain percentage of the populace which will demand physically tangible reading material as opposed to the virtual alternatives.


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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:10am

 mem_313 wrote:

There is a lot of printing besides newspapers and books.

Just don't like absolutes. I prefer thinking there is room for everything in this world.

 

People thought stone tablets were pretty cool before there was papyrus.

I think the decline of paper use is a good thing, but then I'm a tree hugger.  I think there will probably always be books, but they will become luxury items for collectors.


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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 6:06am

 hippiechick wrote:

Ever is a long time {#Wink}

With the advent of book readers in color, and the opportunity for interactivity, books will continue to disappear. Just like dvds. And magazines are ideal for a reader. Newspapers are already ringing the death knell. The difficulty is getting people to pay for internet content like they pay for paper.

And everyone I know prints in China, forcing the closing of US printers. Kiss print goodbye.

 


There is a lot of printing besides newspapers and books.

Just don't like absolutes. I prefer thinking there is room for everything in this world.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 5:57am

 mem_313 wrote:

I have my doubts that print will ever be completely obsolete.

 
Ever is a long time {#Wink}

With the advent of book readers in color, and the opportunity for interactivity, books will continue to disappear. Just like dvds. And magazines are ideal for a reader. Newspapers are already ringing the death knell. The difficulty is getting people to pay for internet content like they pay for paper.

And everyone I know prints in China, forcing the closing of US printers. Kiss print goodbye.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 5:47am

 hippiechick wrote:
Within 10 years, print will be obsolete for the most part. The generation in school now will have no interest in print products; everything will be digital.

Print companies are shutting their doors and laying off people at rapid rates. And the ones that exist are in China.

 


I have my doubts that print will ever be completely obsolete.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 5:47am

 hippiechick wrote:
Within 10 years, print will be obsolete for the most part. The generation in school now will have no interest in print products; everything will be digital.

Print companies are shutting their doors and laying off people at rapid rates. And the ones that exist are in China.

 


I have my doubts that print will ever be completely obsolete.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 5:39am

Within 10 years, print will be obsolete for the most part. The generation in school now will have no interest in print products; everything will be digital.

Print companies are shutting their doors and laying off people at rapid rates. And the ones that exist are in China.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2011 - 2:11am

 oldslabsides wrote:

I would love to see all paper publications go the way of the dinosaur.  Paper's day as a publishing medium can't pass soon enough for me.
 
I need to highlight important things and prefer a hard copy for them.   Highlighting or bolding via type just doesn't do it for me besides it is just hard for me to read a computer screen.    ...........plus I LOVE the feel of books and magazines.  

//my two cents this early morning


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Posted: Dec 6, 2010 - 5:51pm

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This is my dear friend Chris.  

I think she's wrong to insist no one reads newspapers or magazines.  And I think statements like that wag the dog... she says it to bring in more customers, and she is part of a movement that convinces people that newspapers and magazines are kaput.  

I believe tactile paper versions of newspapers, magazines, and books DO have a place in our society.  

Thoughts? 



 
I would love to see all paper publications go the way of the dinosaur.  Paper's day as a publishing medium can't pass soon enough for me.

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Posted: Dec 6, 2010 - 5:34pm

 romeotuma wrote:


Yeah, you're right...

I shouldn't have spoken in absolutes, anyway... there are times that one will be better than the other, depending on what the news is about, and times when they will be best together...

but still, just the ability to read be better than watching MTV videos...

and generally speaking, I still say written printed material is better for complex facts, details and nuances...


 

    FYT  {#Mrgreen}


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Posted: Dec 6, 2010 - 3:17pm

 romeotuma wrote:
"Printed" news may be stupid because it is obsolete...  but written news is as smart as it gets...

video news is generally shallow, and it is directed according to titillating or dramatic visual pictures...  so it is doomed to be lowest common denominator news...

I make this point without any pictures...
 

Ideally, you'd get both in one shot. A well-written piece with accompanying video (that only shows relevant visual information, e.g. a newly discovered insect moving about...) or audio (for music, etc.)

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Dec 6, 2010 - 2:51pm

 rosedraws wrote:



This is my dear friend Chris.  

I think she's wrong to insist no one reads newspapers or magazines.  And I think statements like that wag the dog... she says it to bring in more customers, and she is part of a movement that convinces people that newspapers and magazines are kaput.  

I believe tactile paper versions of newspapers, magazines, and books DO have a place in our society.  

Thoughts?

 
I work for newspaper(s) so it pains me to say this, but printed news is stupid. It's old news, it's fragile and it's hugely expensive to manufacture and distribute. I like having books in my hand but I haven't owned a Kindle or anything like that so I don't know what I prefer. But I imagine I'd like it just fine. About the time my kids pull the bookmark out of my dead trees for the 9th time, I'm ready to try anything.

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