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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Feb 21, 2010 - 11:01am |
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no...I live outside a small town...just beyond the RESUME SPEED sign...
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winter
Location: in exile, as always Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 4:17pm |
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Steve wrote:Not miserable, not great, but we haz pools! And there you have it.
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Steve
Location: Around My Corner... and Up Yours Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:39pm |
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winter wrote:Meh.
Not miserable, not great, but we haz pools!
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winter
Location: in exile, as always Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:35pm |
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Meh.
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meower
Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:32pm |
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dunno that it's a miserable city, but it shore is a dirty one.
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OlderThanDirt
Location: In Transit Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:30pm |
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oldviolin wrote:That's how much I made a month! All I had was a motorcycle and peach fuzz. I rented up on Pine Street from a Korean man. I had to have a roomate of course. I think the rent was 215.00. When we first moved here, we rented in Carmel for 125/month for about 6 months. Then we moved to New Monterey at 105/month for a couple of years. Prices have gone up a little since then.
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:28pm |
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Manbird wrote: Me and my girlfriend went into a bar. "Give me a motorcycle and a peach fuzz!" I screamed at the Korean man. "Do you have a room where we can mate?" "There's one for rent up on Pine Street." he blubbered.
I shoulda married that dude...
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Manbird
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:27pm |
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oldviolin wrote:
All I had was a motorcycle and peach fuzz. I rented up on Pine Street from a Korean man. I had to have a roomate of course. Me and my girlfriend went into a bar. "Give me a motorcycle and a peach fuzz!" I screamed at the Korean man. "Do you have a room where we can mate?" "There's one for rent up on Pine Street." he blubbered.
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:23pm |
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OlderThanDirt wrote: That would be hard to do nowadays - anywhere! Probably wasn't easy then, either.
1974. That's how much I made a month! All I had was a motorcycle and peach fuzz. I rented up on Pine Street from a Korean man. I had to have a roomate of course. I think the rent was 215.00. I spent the rest on utilities and records.
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OlderThanDirt
Location: In Transit Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:21pm |
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oldviolin wrote:C'mon, man...It's me. I lived in Pacific Grove on $345.00 a month. Talk about fuzzy math. That would be hard to do nowadays - anywhere! Probably wasn't easy then, either.
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:12pm |
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OlderThanDirt wrote:Didn't mean it to sound that way. That was number nine in a RAFT run of 10 last night. C'mon, man...It's me. I lived in Pacific Grove on $345.00 a month. Talk about fuzzy math.
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OlderThanDirt
Location: In Transit Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:10pm |
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oldviolin wrote:Go ahead and rub it in, G... Didn't mean it to sound that way. That was number nine in a RAFT run of 10 last night.
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 3:08pm |
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katzendogs wrote: I'd like to visit the "Fall's" one more time. And now I have cyber friends up there. I'd like to visit them too. I bet I would have a great time.
C'mon up ! Lot's to do and lot's to see. Happy to have you.
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katzendogs
Location: Pasadena ,Texas Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 1:55pm |
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kurtster wrote:Yeppers, # 1. Or more precisely, currently smack dab in the center of a happy triangle formed by Cleveland, Akron and Ytown. We are also the # 1 city when it come to the harshest winters in the US, in case that has not been noted as well. And it has been either # 1 or # 2 poorest city in the country for the past 5 years as well.
When traveling or conversing, I identify myself as a Clevelander and lived in Cleveland proper for a number of years. (I see people grab their kids a little tighter and look at their watches and check their purses and wallets when they find out I live in Cleveland, just kidding)
After the blizzard of '77 we used to have T Shirts, that read : Cleveland..., you gotta be tough !
Every place has its good points and bad points, but we seem to have a lot of stuff here that makes living here a real adventure. Maybe living here makes you sick as well, but we sure do have some of the best hospitals in the world. Maybe its cause we need them, Hmmmm....
(still, its better than Pittsburg, but that's another story)
I'd like to visit the "Fall's" one more time. And now I have cyber friends up there. I'd like to visit them too. I bet I would have a great time.
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 11:29am |
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Buffalocarl wrote: Oh, and Buffalo drinks Cleveland's breakfast for dinner! YUCK!
Now, that's a different angle...
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Buffalocarl
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Feb 20, 2010 - 11:28am |
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hippiechick wrote: I personally think that Buffalo's winters are worse.
And I agree with what you say about Pittsburgh. And, I still think that Cleveland is much better than Detroit, having lived in both locations.
Oh, and Buffalo drinks Cleveland's breakfast for dinner! YUCK!
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fuh2
Location: Mexican beach paradise Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 11:10am |
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This book is a good read explaining why America has so many miserable cities.
A review of James Kunstler's-"Geography of Nowhere"
The Uglification of America
Written: May 06 '06 (Updated May 07 '06)
Suburban Sprawl
As Industrialism created the most degraded urban environments ever seen, Americans, "with their Bible-drunk sense of history", simply abandoned their public spaces and went in search of Eden. They called that suburbia. The abandonment of communities led to the segregation by income that we know today, a quintessential US phenomenon.
Unfortunately, our suburbs were created without planning, without public spaces, without a decent sense of aesthetics: they were simply conduits for automobiles and achieved social isolation. Kunstler here examines the relationship between the poorly designed habitat we live in and the social problems (i.e the highest violent crime rate in the developed world) which afflict our society, and demonstrates a tight connection. Kunstler chronicles the manipulative influences of the auto industry in making sure public transportation never became viable in the US, and of the house building sector, which was allowed to destroy the environment with its disposable little ranches and a zoning law that chewed up public space at unprecedented rates. The growth of the building industry is still predicated on destroying local communities. Kunstler has plenty of detailed examples to illustrate these claims.
No Future for Suburbia
The American suburban habitat has no future. As rising costs of transportation and unmanageable traffic patterns are bringing our cherished suburbia into the grave, the question is what kind of physical setting we can design for our civilization. "Americans have been living car-centered lives for so long that the collective memory of what used to make a townscape humanly rewarding has nearly been erased.". Sadly, Americans are not really planning the post-automobile age. Not much has changed, and we ought to look at " new home construction as a cancer patient must contemplate the spread of malignant cells through his healthy tissue." After tracing the architectural history of the American colonial home, Kunstler remarks how new homes have ceased to open up to the outside world (with ample porches, for examples) and have closed up, leaving the outside world as an abstraction. Barricaded in their basements, watching TV, Americans have become "spiritual cripples narcotized by fantasy".
America's Cities
It is hard to decide what the most dilapidated city in America may be, because there are hundreds. Kunstler chooses Detroit, as an example of how American economic trends have victimized our communities, not so much because of the ugliness, but because spaces have been so designed to cut off the possibility of sense of community. "At night, downtown Detroit looks like a set for some movie about the last hours of Planet Earth." There are many places in the US which just fit this bill.
A city that receives high marks is Portland, Oregon, home to a visionary mayor (Tom McCall) and to a bunch of bright, influential architects and city planners. Portland is still a community! Among the places I like in the Northeast, I would add Beacon Hill in Boston and Georgetown in Washington. There are a few other places, not many, I admit, that look like communities. Finally, the obvious example of an unsustainable city is a non-city like Los Angeles. LA is the first example of a "community" that must go. It will be unrecognizable, says Kunstler, in a few decades. LA is simply a perversion of the idea of human habitat
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aragon
Location: Nowhere Fast Gender:
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Feb 20, 2010 - 8:19am |
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so so
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K_Love
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Feb 20, 2010 - 8:17am |
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yes
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