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westslope

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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 9:38am

 R_P wrote:
Thanks.  Good read.

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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 9:07am

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 9:43pm

my grandfather bought a 2 Ha block on a stony windswept beach north of Wellington. It was just sand, tussock grass and lupins when he got it. Put up a wind belt, erected a windmill that powered an artesian bore that fed a water tank on the top of the biggest dune. Then installed a gravity fed irrigation system. It was awesome. He fed the entire extended family. In the end he had two steers, pigs, chickens, a goat called Arnold. We went down every second week to work on it. Still guts me that we couldn't keep it in the family when he died.
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 9:17pm

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Stop the cattle grazing - move to vertical farming and aquaponics
 
yep, +1

brilliant. wonder what the fish food is made of..  
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 6:55pm

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Leviticus 19:28 -
Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.


So that is why there are no scarrings or tattoo marks on my body?   I always thought it went something like this:  "You can take the boy out of the Lutheran Church.  But you cannot take the Lutheran out of the boy."



Truth.  I avoided tattoos because I am a wimp, don't like pain and more to the point am not fond of drawing attention to myself from public security forces, not fond of attention from territorial bangers, but I am fond of going into any traditional community or modern sub-culture and engaging.  Positively.  

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 4:08pm

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 3:11pm

 westslope wrote:
Thank you Man of Evil.    


Leviticus 19:28 -
Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 3:10pm

Stop the cattle grazing - move to vertical farming and aquaponics


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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 3:07pm

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It is a common human tray. Nothing special. The fact that you point fingers at North Americans seems to be showing the same. An age-old saying goes, "When you point your index-finger at someone, the majority of your fingers is pointing back at you."


Thank you Man of Evil.    

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 2:52pm

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I love referencing the Bible because North Americans like to pump themselves up as 'moral' and 'decent'

It is a common human tray. Nothing special. The fact that you point fingers at North Americans seems to be showing the same. An age-old saying goes, "When you point your index-finger at someone, the majority of your fingers is pointing back at you."

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 2:44pm

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I wonder what the Christian Deity (or Deities, depending) think of all this.  Is there not a passage or two in the bible that warns against trashing the temple of the soul?  

That depends on one's tribal/ideological interpretation.

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 2:38pm

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Sure is... - I got trashed before, citing the Bible, as "expecting to be taken serious".


I love referencing the Bible because North Americans like to pump themselves up as 'moral' and 'decent'. 

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:49pm

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That might be easier than challenging the cheap energy entitlement in places like the USA (and many others).   

Climate change will help.   Flooding, coastal storms, extreme heat and cold all have wonderful potential to kill and kill again.

Thanks to world-beating US obesity-sitting-dementia policies — don't worry, Canadians love them too — more Americans in bad health will die in the future from what should be otherwise  survivable shocks to weather.  

I wonder what the Christian Deity (or Deities, depending) think of all this.  Is there not a passage or two in the bible that warns against trashing the temple of the soul?  

Sure is... - I got trashed before, citing the Bible, as "expecting to be taken serious".

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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:33pm

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.........

Time to reduce the human population, too ?


That might easier than challenging the cheap energy entitlement in places like the USA (and many others).   

Climate change will help.   Flooding, coastal storms, extreme heat and cold all have wonderful potential to kill and kill again.

Thanks to world-beating US obesity-sitting-dementia policies — don't worry, Canadians love them too — more Americans in bad health will die in the future from what should be otherwise  survivable shocks to weather.  

I wonder what the Christian Deity (or Deities, depending) think of all this.  Is there not a passage or two in the bible that warns against trashing the temple of the soul?  
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:33pm

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Also from my unsourced source way farther down is this little tid bit ...
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Physiologically speaking, the existence of people and our livestock is removing carbon from the atmosphere, albeit at an incredibly slow rate.

That shoots down the whole cow thing, which is foundation to so many arguments against raising cows as a food source, eh ?  Turns out the opposite is true, like so many of the canned climate change fear mongering "facts" y'all like to use.
 
you still think funny. There is a critical distinction between methane and CO2.

Cows burp methane.. I suspect you don't (well, only a little).
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:29pm

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 kurtster wrote:
So what about the CO² emissions from humans ? The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. ... Take this number and multiply by a population of 7 billion people, breathing away for 365.25 days per year, and you get an annual CO2 output of 2.94 billion tons. Time to reduce the human population, too ?

Unsourced kurtsterian blather.
 
Also from my unsourced source way farther down is this little tid bit ...
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Physiologically speaking, the existence of people and our livestock is removing carbon from the atmosphere, albeit at an incredibly slow rate.

That shoots down the whole cow thing, which is foundation to so many arguments against raising cows as a food source, eh ?  Turns out the opposite is true, like so many of the canned climate change fear mongering "facts" y'all like to use.
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:27pm

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 kurtster wrote:

So what about the CO² emissions from humans ?

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. ... Take this number and multiply by a population of 7 billion people, breathing away for 365.25 days per year, and you get an annual CO2 output of 2.94 billion tons.

Time to reduce the human population, too ?



Do you think the number of people on this planet is:
A. Too few
B. Just right
C. Too many
 
{#Lol}
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:22pm

 kurtster wrote:

So what about the CO² emissions from humans ?

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. ... Take this number and multiply by a population of 7 billion people, breathing away for 365.25 days per year, and you get an annual CO2 output of 2.94 billion tons.

Time to reduce the human population, too ?



Do you think the number of people on this planet is:
A. Too few
B. Just right
C. Too many
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:22pm

 kurtster wrote:

So what about the CO² emissions from humans ?

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. ... Take this number and multiply by a population of 7 billion people, breathing away for 365.25 days per year, and you get an annual CO2 output of 2.94 billion tons.

Time to reduce the human population, too ?

 
{#Propeller}

you think funny.   Getting back to the main point. Simply waiting for technology alone to solve the problem is now IMHO criminally complacent. The technology is not there yet on the scale we need it. Ergo, we need to change consumption patterns, this goes hand-in-hand with technological progress. The two are not incompatible.

And the ironic thing is, it seems the younger generation has already realized this and is acting on it. It's just us old farts who, despite being the first generation to really benefit from the abundance of post WWII growth, seem totally intransigent when it comes to being just a wee bit more responsible about what and how we consume, and yes I put myself in that group. 

 
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Posted: Aug 9, 2021 - 1:22pm

 kurtster wrote:
So what about the CO² emissions from humans ?

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. ... Take this number and multiply by a population of 7 billion people, breathing away for 365.25 days per year, and you get an annual CO2 output of 2.94 billion tons.

Time to reduce the human population, too ?

Unsourced kurtsterian blather.

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