miamizsun wrote: 
Is this another one of those inconvenient truths?

a)
b)
c) +
d) none of the above

 miamizsun wrote: 

Former VP Gore is one of the greatest snake oil salesman of recent times...coming up fast on his lying heels is Mr. Obama...

Is Gore practicing what he preaches?

It's Good To Be Green - Al Gore Buys $9 Million Seaside Home

Apparently not as worried about dangerous sea level rises as he touts in his speeches, Former Vice President Al Gore and his wife Tipper have purchased a seaside villa in Montecito, California. The Nobel Laureate reported paid $8.8 million for the property.

The Los Angeles Times, via the Montecito Journal is reporting that the home is on a 1.5 acre lot complete with a swimming pool, spa and fountains in an area that is also home to Oprah Winfrey and other Hollywood celebrities. The Gore's will have plenty of room for guests and entertaining with five bedrooms and nine baths in the home as well as six fireplaces.

Gore has come under fire in the past for leaving a carbon footprint far in excess of the average American leading to charges of "do as I say, not as I do."

 Beaker wrote: 

Woo Hoo!! Goin to get a Hummer and start cooking steaks on the grill every night from now on; and no more recycling and I also promise to thank an oil industry executive today for his fine work! We are free! No worries, glory be to the continuation of fossil fuel based industry!! Thanks for the good news, I will sleep much better tonight and so will all of the woodland creatures!

 sirdroseph wrote: 
sir, just an observation....

The jungle (rainforest) is being razed there.

How much is legitimately being done by indigenous people to eek out a living by farming?

My guess is that it is a small portion.

The flip side is the government/corporate partnerships that are logging and growing coffee, sugar, produce etc.

Are these are any of these legitimate? Probably so, maybe co-ops to supply local markets.

Are some illegitimate? I say yes. (here's where I usually get labeled a cynic or conspiracy buff)
 
If anyone had followed the link I posted earlier at the bottom of my rain forest destruction post, they would see John Perkins site. He's the former Economic Hitman for the UN's World Bank and IMF. His job was to go into a country with coveted undeveloped resources and offer the government loans to develop that country's economy through said finance and partner with some "preferred" global players. Dangling the carrot of uplifting their country out of poverty and making their politicians fabulously wealthy was often all it took. It looked great on paper. The problem was that it didn't map over too well in the real world. The loans were structured in such a way that default was very likely, and the IMF endorsed corporations were the benefactors. They just assumed control and paid the government/politicians to roll over. Perkins details many such scenarios that he arranged in the past. Perkins' relationships with the NSA and CIA allowed him carte blanche in his negotiations with most governments and almost all went along with the plans. When Perkins came back empty handed, the CIA "jackals" went in and they weren't very friendly. He's long removed from the EHM scene and now has devoted a lot of time with various tribes/shamen in remote places, like the jungles and rain forests being developed(or trashed). He's got several books and there's plenty of video for anyone who wants to know his story. (you can search for UN, IMF loans gone bad an hear some deposed leaders speak about the ills of such behavior)

So how do we dislodge the UN, World Bank, IMF, Corporatocracy parasites? Perkins has some ideas.

I'd like to wax more, but I've got some previous commitments. I'm sure we'll catch up later.

Regards

 miamizsun wrote: 
Says you!

 jadewahoo wrote: 
We're cool, we're only human.

Peace

 miamizsun wrote: 
Actually, if you are speaking about the people who actually live in these ravaged areas, that is the whole point, the choice is not theirs. Therein lies the problem.

 jadewahoo wrote: 
Graham Greene should be ashamed of himself...

 arighter2 wrote: 
dankeschein Lorenzo!

 Monkeysdad wrote: 
Good luck, Bill!

 jadewahoo wrote: 
Oookayyy! There's a "blood for trolls" campaign going on? I did not know! (actually, I'm not sure what you mean)

Glad you get to up your calories though, it'll be a relief I'm sure; good job on the lb. reduction! I'm "sitting pretty" at 219 lbs. at the moment with at least 19 to go.....then I have to "reposition" the rest!

 Monkeysdad wrote: No, the diet program has moved into the next phase... 1200 calories a day. Wooo-hooo!

But... I gave too much blood today... to a freckin' Troll.

 jadewahoo wrote: 
Blood sugar a little on the low side with the diet maybe?

 miamizsun wrote:My feathers were ruffled today, miamizsun. Sorry if I ruffled yours in the midst of it.

Peace

 jadewahoo wrote: 
It's all ok...  I avoid contentious thread at all costs,so I had no idea of the implication. I just thought it related to mineral rights getting stolen from Reservation land and thought you might like to see the movie on Hulu.

 jadewahoo wrote: 
Jade, that's not what I said. Let me say it again. The choice is theirs.

Regards

 duchamp wrote:I do apologize, duchamp. I mistook your comment for being one of sarcasm, when clearly it was not intended that way. 
I have seen references to 'Thunderheart' used in these pages, more than once, as a slam against someone with a POV that is Earth based.

 jadewahoo wrote: 
I thought you might be interested.  No need to be ugly.

 duchamp wrote: Oh, good. I feel so much better now.