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MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:40am

 miamizsun wrote:
Can we check the data behind this interview?

 
Not that idiot Monckton again.  Haven't got time to watch now.

miamizsun

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:37am

Can we check the data behind this interview?


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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:36am

 jadewahoo wrote:
I am a steadfast believer in Global Weather Change. I mean, it only stands to season...

 
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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:35am

I am a steadfast believer in Global Weather Change. I mean, it only stands to season...
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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:35am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
There's an amazing periodicity in the 500,000 year graph with a steady period of decline lasting 80k to 100k years. Does anyone know of any explanation for that?

Oil companies. Russian mafia. Republicans. You know, the usual.
 
now now 

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:33am

The Cryosphere Today - Sea Ice Data Set and Video 1978 - 2006   ( {#Arrowl}   video)

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:32am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
There's an amazing periodicity in the 500,000 year graph with a steady period of decline lasting 80k to 100k years. Does anyone know of any explanation for that?

Oil companies. Russian mafia. Republicans. You know, the usual.

oldviolin

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:30am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

There's an amazing periodicity in the 500,000 year graph with a steady period of decline lasting 80k to 100k years. Does anyone know of any explanation for that?
 
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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:29am

 miamizsun wrote:


Put into perspective, this looks pretty interesting too.


 
There's an amazing periodicity in the 500,000 year graph with a steady period of decline lasting 80k to 100k years. Does anyone know of any explanation for that?

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:22am

 Zep wrote:

That would be weather.  Climate is long term, say, over about 5000 nights.  So you have one data point out of 5000, which is, as we say in American, a drop in the bucket. 

Here's a good resource to learn how to distinguish between climate and weather.

 

Put into perspective, this looks pretty interesting too.



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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 4:46am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
yeah- the per capita figures are also in the article with the pic I posted- you need to click through for the table.

As to China there was some interesting commentary on the breakfast news says that they were keener to align themselves with the G77 with a relatively tough cap than to give the US concessions for the senate.  Your senate, your problem was the quote.

 
 Or does china see itself better placed to switch to a lower carbon economy in the next 25years than the US?  Because that way they can leave the US high and dry on their own blinkered little corner and start the research and industrial tech oomph to match them?
HazzeSwede

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 3:52am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:


Lazy 8 is no servo.  I might not always agree with him especially on economic policy but he's cool.  I wonder if maybe operating in your second language there's a subltey of tone you are missing. 

Of course in my second language there's be whole chunks of text I would be missing so I think it's pretty cook that you guys are debating in English.  I reckon bringing my kids up in the Netherlands or Sweden would give them a superb start at languages.



 
    Yeah,,you are right,,not doing much good here anyway,I think I'll stick to our cats place and giggle over
    Jrzy's pics !  I have a Godson in the Netherlands,that would be my place of choice to bring up a kid !

MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 3:39am

 HazzeSwede wrote:

    Thanks,will take a closer look.  I am thinkin of answering  Lazy 8,,but I might be "servoed" !{#Rolleyes}

 

Lazy 8 is no servo.  I might not always agree with him especially on economic policy but he's cool.  I wonder if maybe operating in your second language there's a subtlety of tone you are missing. 

Of course in my second language there's be whole chunks of text I would be missing so I think it's pretty cool that you guys are debating in English.  I reckon bringing my kids up in the Netherlands or Sweden would give them a superb start at languages.




HazzeSwede

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 3:28am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
yeah- the per capita figures are also in the article with the pic I posted- you need to click through for the table.

As to China there was some interesting commentary on the breakfast news says that they were keener to align themselves with the G77 with a relatively tough cap than to give the US concessions for the senate.  Your senate, your problem was the quote.

 
    Thanks,will take a closer look.  I am thinkin of answering  Lazy 8,,but I might be "servoed" !{#Rolleyes}
MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 3:17am

 HazzeSwede wrote:

It is no secret at this point that the US and China are the largest emitters of greenhouse gases. China is thought to have matched or surpassed the US in total GHG emission in the past couple years. The comparison, of course, is unfair because there are four times as many people in China. A more equitable metric – per capita emissions – finds that the average American, Canadian and Australian is responsible for more than four times the GHG emissions of the average Chinese citizen  ;  —Simon Donner
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  yeah- the per capita figures are also in the article with the pic I posted- you need to click through for the table.

As to China there was some interesting commentary on the breakfast news says that they were keener to align themselves with the G77 with a relatively tough cap than to give the US concessions for the senate.  Your senate, your problem was the quote.


HazzeSwede

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 3:12am


It is no secret at this point that the US and China are the largest emitters of greenhouse gases. China is thought to have matched or surpassed the US in total GHG emission in the past couple years. The comparison, of course, is unfair because there are four times as many people in China. A more equitable metric – per capita emissions – finds that the average American, Canadian and Australian is responsible for more than four times the GHG emissions of the average Chinese citizen  ;  —Simon Donner
Link


HazzeSwede

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 3:05am

Gee, what a surprise that most of the global warming deniers are from the #1 country on the emissions list!
                              {#Lol}
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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 2:39am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:

Carbon emissions graphicView larger picture

 

Gee, what a surprise that most of the global warming deniers are from the #1 country on the emissions list!


MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 2:23am

World carbon emissions, by country: can the Copenhagen climate summit bring these down?

The Copenhagen climate change summit has started. Now, the US is no longer number one emitter of carbon dioxide, having been overtaken by China in these latest figures. But when did it happen?

Carbon emissions graphicView larger picture

Copenhagen summit: Carbon emissions around the world. Click image for bigger picture. Scroll down page for pdf
More of the article from the Guardian including the table


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Posted: Dec 14, 2009 - 8:55am

Environment Canada hit by 'damn clever' climate stunt

Jane Taber - Globe and Mail

December 14, 2009

Canada is red-faced at the Copenhagen climate-change conference as a result of a spoof news release purporting to be from Environment Canada announcing Canada was bringing in bold new emissions reduction targets.

The authentic-looking release, which was announced on a fake Jim Prentice Twitter account, caught many observers off guard and a fake story about it landed on a fake Wall Street Journal website - all an elaborate ruse to embarrass Canada, which is being considered the "dirty-old man" of the conference for its intransigence on negotiating better targets.

“In a major development coming three days before the final round of UN climate change negotiations in Copenhagen, and responding to the recent concerns expressed by the G77 bloc of countries, Canada’s Attache for Environment and Planning announced today an ambitious plan for a new climate change framework that answers vital concerns voiced by developing nations,” says the fake release. It says that Canada plans to bring in new targets of 40 per cent below 1990 by 2020 - way more ambitious than what the real Mr. Prentice has come to Copenhagen with.

The prank continued with another legitimate-looking statement from Environment Canada attempting to contain the damage: “One hour ago, a spoof press release targeted Canada in order to generate hurtful rumours and mislead the Conference of Parties on Canada’s positions on climate change, and to damage Canada’s standing with the international business community,” it says. It says that the spoof was “unfortunately” reported in major international outlets. It says the targets and all statements in the release are “unequivocally false.”

But that statement, too, proved to be a fake. The elaborate and damaging spoof comes just a week after Greenpeace activists embarrassed the government by climbing the roof of Parliament buildings to protest Canada’s leadership on his issue.

Dimitri Soudas, spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper, was unimpressed. "More time should be dedicated to playing a constructive role instead of childish pranks," he said in an email to The Globe.

The story raised hackles in Copenhagen, with tensions running high between Mr. Soudas, who is travelling with Mr. Prentice, and Steven Guilbeault, a Quebec environmentalist with Équiterre who is as well-known in that province as David Suzuki’s is in the rest of Canada.

Mr. Soudas, who is not sure who wrote the releases, said Mr. Guilbeault was forwarding the fake announcements around and then had camped in front of where the Canadian delegation is located. Mr. Guilbeault denies any involvement in the prank.

The Prime Minister's spokesman added that the Environment Minister is meeting with his provincial colleagues and is also to meet with the U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu later. A real press release, Mr. Soudas said, will be issued from that meeting.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, who is also in Copenhagen, says she doesn’t know who is behind the spoof but says it is clearly “an attempt to draw attention to Canada and force Canada to go to the media and say ‘no, we haven’t budged.'”

She doesn’t believe that any Canadian did it, although she says it was “damn clever.”


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