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jbuhl

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Location: Boulder,CO


Posted: Jan 13, 2018 - 8:45am

 miamizsun wrote:


yeah thanks

lot to consider

for ease and simplification i'm leaning towards using a sonos one type setup (with google assistant)

according to sonos it should be available very soon

they're powered, easily networked and easily grouped

i'll elaborate more in a bit


 
Carefully compare the SONOS vs Bluesound Node2.  especially if you are going to use the onboard DAC as I think the Node 2 may have the edge here.  But Sonos software interface is hard to beat.  I think the Node 2 may support MQA as well and if ever want to give that a try it would be worth having.

The Auralic is also a contender.

https://www.audiostream.com/content/auralic-aries-mini

Another thing to consider is how are you going to listen.  Is your music just background/wallpaper or do you actually take time to sit down and critically listen to the music?  If it's background then you can get by with much less investment  if it's the later then ......

Best advice is take it slow at first until you understand the landscape.  It's taken me over 10 years to build my system and I am just now moderately satisfied.  Still got a few tweeks I need to make.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 13, 2018 - 6:35am

 kurtster wrote:

Audio and Video, ok.  I would start here for a decent AV receiver.  It has the self tuning microphone feature that really helps overcome peculiarities in your listening environment.  I would still get the Bluesound node even with the AV receiver and hardwire it in via optical toslink for all the puter audio streaming.  The biggest problem AV receivers have is stream buffering problems.  That would avoid that problem altogether.  Speakers, man that's tough, just be sure that you can return them if you don't like them.  For Chromecast, just get the dongle and plug it into an HDMI input in the back of the receiver and you are rolling.

Tile floors, that's gonna be a bitch.  Loves my wall to wall carpet.  Hard surfaces do not mix with audio very well.  Exposed beams are a plus actually because they help break up standing sound waves in a room which cause problems.  Hopefully the common wall would not be where the rig is placed against.  Better if the sound runs sideways to that wall, rather than perpendicular.  One of the biggest benefits of hi fidelity files is that you don't have to play them as loud to sound good.

hth as a start at least.

 

yeah thanks

lot to consider

for ease and simplification i'm leaning towards using a sonos one type setup (with google assistant)

according to sonos it should be available very soon

they're powered, easily networked and easily grouped

i'll elaborate more in a bit



jbuhl

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Location: Boulder,CO


Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 8:23pm

 miamizsun wrote:
something that is chromecast/google home friendly

and eventually multi room

source will be streaming from pc/phone/tablet

wired from my tv or blueray

i share one wall (looking into soundproofing now)

and my home is very open

no carpet only tile and exposed beam ceilings
 
I don't know much about the cromecast solution.  But it looks like that is a good place to start and get going for cheap.  This will give you time to survey the landscape.

But you are going to want to play around with putting down something on the tile floor and other modifications and treatments to keep it from sounding like a basketball gym.  I have hardwood floor in my listening room and I put down a rug. Photos on the wall to mitigate the sound wave bounce.

As others have mentioned having a nice DAC is something to consider.  All my digital music goes through my DAC (RP, CD, Sonos)  I agree with other poster about Coax or Optical , its the way  I connect.  I am hooked on DACS as you can upgrade those and the technology moves ahead and leave the rest of your system in place.  And they do make a difference.

Bluesound nodes are really nice especially if you have a music service.  I run a Wired4Sound Modified Sonos connect  for streaming DEEZER.  They have a really nice interface and a stock SONOS connect can be found on Craigslist for a few hundred bucks.

kurtster

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Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 6:22pm

 siriuss wrote:
This is why many people will choose to buy a DAC and use the USB output of their computer. It cost a lot to have a great setup, but not so much for a good DAC with Headphones.  The same DAC will output to your sound system anyway, so you kindda need it.

 
USB is the short term future for computer audio interfaces no doubt.  The goal is to keep the signal in its native digital form until the last possible moment in the foodchain.  I'm still a fan of toslink / optical though.  I got an audio card for my computer just to have toslink out.  Its how the digital audio signal gets from my computer to my receiver.  No need for an external DAC.  I use the onboard DAC in the receiver.  My NAS also has toslink out, though I have yet to use it.  It also has 2 HDMI's out.  I use an external USB ADC preamp to get from my turntable to my computer and to get the signal digital as soon as possible using a good ADC chip.

The Bluesound Node is a DAC and a whole lot more even though it only serves audio purposes.  Built in innernet radio streaming is a big plus.  Anything that takes the load off an AV receiver is good overall, especially if it does it better.  It gives you many forward compatible options which is what I like most, besides what it does already.

Pardon my trip into the weeds ...
siriuss

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Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 3:50pm

This is why many people will choose to buy a DAC and use the USB output of their computer. It cost a lot to have a great setup, but not so much for a good DAC with Headphones.  The same DAC will output to your sound system anyway, so you kindda need it.
kurtster

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Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 3:42pm

 miamizsun wrote:
something that is chromecast/google home friendly

and eventually multi room

source will be streaming from pc/phone/tablet

wired from my tv or blueray

i share one wall (looking into soundproofing now)

and my home is very open

no carpet only tile and exposed beam ceilings
 
Audio and Video, ok.  I would start here for a decent AV receiver.  It has the self tuning microphone feature that really helps overcome peculiarities in your listening environment.  I would still get the Bluesound node even with the AV receiver and hardwire it in via optical toslink for all the puter audio streaming.  The biggest problem AV receivers have is stream buffering problems.  That would avoid that problem altogether.  Speakers, man that's tough, just be sure that you can return them if you don't like them.  For Chromecast, just get the dongle and plug it into an HDMI input in the back of the receiver and you are rolling.

Tile floors, that's gonna be a bitch.  Loves my wall to wall carpet.  Hard surfaces do not mix with audio very well.  Exposed beams are a plus actually because they help break up standing sound waves in a room which cause problems.  Hopefully the common wall would not be where the rig is placed against.  Better if the sound runs sideways to that wall, rather than perpendicular.  One of the biggest benefits of hi fidelity files is that you don't have to play them as loud to sound good.

hth as a start at least.
miamizsun

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Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male


Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 1:55pm

something that is chromecast/google home friendly

and eventually multi room

source will be streaming from pc/phone/tablet

wired from my tv or blueray

i share one wall (looking into soundproofing now)

and my home is very open

no carpet only tile and exposed beam ceilings

jbuhl

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Location: Boulder,CO


Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 8:43am

 miamizsun wrote:
not sure if this is the proper forum

i hear bill speak about high end equipment, flac, etc.

are there any recommendations or some site that covers the spectrum?

naim and bluesound seem very good but somewhat expensive

just curious

thanks

p.s. i actually use some wireless headphones too

 
Yeah if you line out some goals of what you are trying to achieve people here can help I am sure.  there is also https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/

www.audiogon.com is a good place to look for high end used equipment and they have forums there as well but be warned there is much audiophilia there.
kurtster

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Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 5:42am

 miamizsun wrote:
not sure if this is the proper forum

i hear bill speak about high end equipment, flac, etc.

are there any recommendations or some site that covers the spectrum?

naim and bluesound seem very good but somewhat expensive

just curious

thanks

p.s. i actually use some wireless headphones too

 
What are you trying to accomplish ?

Bluesound ?

Music Direct   my current 1st choice for anything sound related.  They also own MOFI.

.
Edit:  upon further review, I kinda like what the Bluesound does as far as tying everything up in a neat little bow.  It sure would simplify everything I could think of, including leaving the puter behind and accessing my NAS for audio files which is one of my long term goals.  The bonus I see is that I can build playlists on my tablet that are sourced on the NAS.  Gamechanger.  Wasn't looking for something like this ... yet, but here it is.

PDF of the manual 


miamizsun

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Gender: Male


Posted: Jan 12, 2018 - 5:29am

not sure if this is the proper forum

i hear bill speak about high end equipment, flac, etc.

are there any recommendations or some site that covers the spectrum?

naim and bluesound seem very good but somewhat expensive

just curious

thanks

p.s. i actually use some wireless headphones too


black321

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Location: An earth without maps
Gender: Male


Posted: Feb 28, 2017 - 10:49am

 miamizsun wrote:
i'm satisfied with my audioengine speakers A5 (i do wish i had a headphone jack out front)

however if space is an issue and bluetooth is desired a pair of these may do the trick

pretty thorough review here

 

I concur, the A5s sound great...two speakers and built in amp all for $400 (or $500?).  Only issue is if you want to connect more than one source, but a simple swap of interconnects is all that is needed. 
miamizsun

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Gender: Male


Posted: Feb 28, 2017 - 7:59am

i'm satisfied with my audioengine speakers A5 (i do wish i had a headphone jack out front)

however if space is an issue and bluetooth is desired a pair of these may do the trick

pretty thorough review here



miamizsun

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Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 7:53am

 PoundPuppy wrote:
I have a Panasonic tv not smart nor bluetooth. I want a sound bar system on it. What kind should I get?
 
locally look for something on sale or

my choice would be zvox

PoundPuppy

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Posted: Dec 31, 2016 - 7:28am

I have a Panasonic tv not smart nor bluetooth. I want a sound bar system on it. What kind should I get?
 
cc_rider

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Location: Bastrop
Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2010 - 7:36am

 rosedraws wrote:
Teen bday coming up.
 
What do you all think?  Worth the money? 
  Sorry, no.

Having been a teen, I know from experience they have a tendency to break/lose things. Or have them stolen by unscrupulous band members/groupies/hangers-on. Get him a decent used rig for starters.


Lazy8

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Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2010 - 7:22am

 rosedraws wrote:
Teen bday coming up.

He wants speaker(s) to use for DJing.  (He does electronica and trance style djing mostly).

He wants these:
 
Behringer B415DSP 600W 15" ACTIVE SPEAKER 

I think if we all pool our money, we'll be able to buy him ONE.  

What do you all think?  Worth the money? 
 
My son's band uses a Fender Passport system, bought used on eBay. A very slick system but not as much power as the above. It packs up into one neat (but very large) unit with a separate duffle for speaker and mic stands. They are going on eBay for about the same as that system but include a mixer board and usually speaker stands and mics.

The one they use has proven to be super durable and loud enough for the dance hall gigs they play.

black321

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Location: An earth without maps
Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2010 - 6:27am

 rosedraws wrote:
Teen bday coming up.

He wants speaker(s) to use for DJing.  (He does electronica and trance style djing mostly).

He wants these:
 
Behringer B415DSP 600W 15" ACTIVE SPEAKER 

I think if we all pool our money, we'll be able to buy him ONE.  

What do you all think?  Worth the money?  

 
check craigslist...I always see folks selling DJ equipment there...and its local so you can demo the gear before purchasing (not a big fan of using ebay or other online sites for this type of equipment). 

hippiechick

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Gender: Female


Posted: Apr 23, 2010 - 6:13am

 rosedraws wrote:
Teen bday coming up.

He wants speaker(s) to use for DJing.  (He does electronica and trance style djing mostly).

He wants these:
 
Behringer B415DSP 600W 15" ACTIVE SPEAKER 

I think if we all pool our money, we'll be able to buy him ONE.  

What do you all think?  Worth the money?  

 
If you have any pawn shops or music shops around, try finding some that are used. You will get more for your money.

Jimi_the_Saint

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Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2010 - 6:08am

 rosedraws wrote:
Teen bday coming up.

He wants speaker(s) to use for DJing.  (He does electronica and trance style djing mostly).

He wants these:
 
Behringer B415DSP 600W 15" ACTIVE SPEAKER 

I think if we all pool our money, we'll be able to buy him ONE.  

What do you all think?  Worth the money?  

 

Wow.  Them's kind of expensive.  If he DJs often, I would think that he would have some money (and the willingness) to help buy them.  Spend what you would spend and let him pick up the rest.  Or just go to guitar center with the specs of his current speakers and what they're used for and tell them you are interested in upgrading them.  Maybe you can find something he would be happy with for less money.
rosedraws

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Posted: Apr 23, 2010 - 5:26am

Teen bday coming up.

He wants speaker(s) to use for DJing.  (He does electronica and trance style djing mostly).

He wants these:
 
Behringer B415DSP 600W 15" ACTIVE SPEAKER 

I think if we all pool our money, we'll be able to buy him ONE.  

What do you all think?  Worth the money?  
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