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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 4:56pm

Voting is beginning now, 5 minutes early.

8.09 est, passed 60 to 39

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 4:35pm

McConnell just said, "this bill is a monument to bureaucracy and spending"

WTF , he sure as hell ain't lying about that.

Live on C-Span 2


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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 3:07pm

 hippiechick wrote:

Either one of you familiar with the pallets of $100 bills that were given away in Iraq, authorized by the Bush Admin?
 
So your OK with bribes then ?  Chicago, Chicago ...

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 2:41pm

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That vanished into thin air (literally- they claim the money disappeared... raise your hand if you believe that).
 
 
Down-payment on a nice beachside pad for after the rapture?

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 2:31pm

 hippiechick wrote:

VP Biden explained that there was no question that the $$$ was distributed correctly, or that it wasn't account for, just that it wasn't filed correctly. Only 70 of over 30,000 were filed incorrectly, and they are being looked at for errors. After all, when you have to throw something together, it takes some time to work out the bugs. I have worked for companies that have launched software programs which take months to get straightened out. It's ridiculous to expect perfection, esp from the government, but go ahead and criticize anyway. I am sure McCain would have done a much better job, eh?
 

Yes, I will criticize. As I did Mr. Bush, Mr. Clinton, Mr. Bush before, Mr. Reagan, Mr. Carter...and those before. Yes, I will. I refuse to see this administration with blinders. I have not afforded any other administration, Congress, Party, invidual, a free pass when they did something that warrants comment and criticisms when appropriate. Especially if it involves The People.

When you have to throw something together...        As in TARP, the stimulus, and now, a massive overhaul of our health care system with the Government, from which it is ridiculous to expect perfection (or competence, efficiency, predictions...), offering proposals no one can truly follow. If the past serves as a guide to the future, expect any bill of the sort resting in The House and under initial review by The Senate, to morph beyond its original scope and intent and to explode a new hole in a bleeding-to-death spending spiral.

Ok, we must believe VP Biden only because he said it was, for the most part, done correctly. And how does that excuse what should be a Congressional Investigation into the creation of new Congressional Districts, some of which are listed as having jobs saved/created? You don't make that degree of error without a purpose.
This has the distinct stench of typical Chicago-style politics. You know, where the dead arise on Election Day to vote blue.


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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 2:22pm

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No more than believing Rhode Island has a 99th Congressional District, as discerned for the first time ever, or that other States have hitherto unknown Congressional Districts, when jobs saved or created were tallied and touted had such errors owing to "an inexact science".
You have to be purposefully inexact to create whole Congrssional Districts.
 
VP Biden explained that there was no question that the $$$ was distributed correctly, or that it wasn't account for, just that it wasn't filed correctly. Only 70 of over 30,000 were filed incorrectly, and they are being looked at for errors. After all, when you have to throw something together, it takes some time to work out the bugs. I have worked for companies that have launched software programs which take months to get straightened out. It's ridiculous to expect perfection, esp from the government, but go ahead and criticize anyway. I am sure McCain would have done a much better job, eh?

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 2:17pm

 MsJudi wrote:

That vanished into thin air (literally- they claim the money disappeared... raise your hand if you believe that).
 

No more than believing Rhode Island has a 99th Congressional District, as discerned for the first time ever, or that other States have hitherto unknown Congressional Districts, when jobs saved or created were tallied and touted had such errors owing to "an inexact science".
You have to be purposefully inexact to create whole Congressional Districts.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 2:03pm

 hippiechick wrote:

Either one of you familiar with the pallets of $100 bills that were given away in Iraq, authorized by the Bush Admin?
 
That vanished into thin air (literally- they claim the money disappeared... raise your hand if you believe that).

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 1:37pm

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How about that $100 (possibly $300) million dollar bribe to the Senator from Louisiana, just for a single vote.

Just giving away the money, hell it ain't their's.

That and they keep the Medicare Doctor fix seperate to keep the numbers lower.  They think we're real stupid.

 
Either one of you familiar with the pallets of $100 bills that were given away in Iraq, authorized by the Bush Admin?

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 1:31pm

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That's the best kind to give away. 
 

 

It's also the easist way.
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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 1:29pm

 kurtster wrote:
Just giving away the money, hell it ain't their's.
 
That's the best kind to give away. 
 
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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 1:28pm

 kurtster wrote:
How about that $100 (possibly $300) million dollar bribe to the Senator from Louisiana, just for a single vote.

Just giving away the money, hell it ain't their's.

That and they keep the Medicare Doctor fix seperate to keep the numbers lower.  They think we're real stupid.

 

Do I smell cooked books? Or that with a helping of business-as-usual for aging?
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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 - 12:51pm

How about that $100 (possibly $300) million dollar bribe to the Senator from Louisiana, just for a single vote.

Just giving away the money, hell it ain't their's.

That and they keep the Medicare Doctor fix seperate to keep the numbers lower.  They think we're real stupid.
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Posted: Sep 8, 2009 - 10:16am

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I don't see anything that makes this guy a Communist.  His worst sin was signing on to a document that raises the far fetched suspicion that the US government looked the other way as 9/11 happened.  Even then, it calls for an investigation rather than making a condemnation.  If everyone who subscribes to a paranoid CT is a Communist, then we're a Marxist state right now.  I'm not aware of it.

Calling Republicans assholes doesn't make anyone a Communist, nor does comparing Bush to a drug addict.  As if even worse terms haven't been used on Democrats!  It's just a symptom of the nasty political climate that exists now.

Obama has retained the Secretary of Defense from the Bush administration.  He has reappointed Ben Bernanke, a Republican, to the chairmanship of the Federal Reserve.  My God, that must make Obama a closet...Republican!!!

 

Mr. Jones declared himself to be a Communist. No one's words or thoughts, smear or slander. Simply Mr. Jones confession on the matter.
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Posted: Sep 5, 2009 - 10:34am

 arighter2 wrote:
I don't consider myself a truther or a wild conspiracy theorist, but really, is it too much to ask why, fifty minutes after the WTC was hit, Washington D.C. was left completely unprotected? I understand DOD was running war games that day, but damn, our fighters have a range of about 1500 miles an hour.

 
I agree completely that it's not too much to ask why this happened.  Along with a lot of other hard questions about the whole disaster. 

But, turf wars, personal rivalries, arrogance, butthole obstinacy, self-delusion, bad organization, and good old incompetence - you know, the usual - should be thoroughly considered before entertaining the concept of malicious conspiratorial motives. 



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Posted: Sep 5, 2009 - 10:23am

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 BasmntMadman wrote:

I don't see anything that makes this guy a Communist.


How about his own declaration to that effect?
“I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of… I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary…I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th..By August, I was a communist.”
 
And...?  The rest of the story?  Plenty of people have moved to the center, or even the right, after their student activist days.  David Horowitz is one of the more famous examples.

What's the guy now?   Looks like he embraces eco-capitalism

Here's another of his declarations, from his book, The Green Collar Economy :

"So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs - and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world -and everyone else."

We need enterpreneurs - to survive, even
Needed technologies will come from the private sector
The populace and its leaders should help certain business leaders succeed  
We need an alliance between the business world and everyone else

If you didn't know the author, you'd think this came from a Chamber of Commerce.   And that's probably why the Obama administration hired him.




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Posted: Sep 5, 2009 - 5:04am

 Beaker wrote: 
Well, hey, another "Freedom Hater", huh?

Amerika, land of the free
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Posted: Sep 5, 2009 - 4:56am

 BasmntMadman wrote:

I don't see anything that makes this guy a Communist.  His worst sin was signing on to a document that raises the far fetched suspicion that the US government looked the other way as 9/11 happened.  Even then, it calls for an investigation rather than making a condemnation.  If everyone who subscribes to a paranoid CT is a Communist, then we're a Marxist state right now.  I'm not aware of it.

Calling Republicans assholes doesn't make anyone a Communist, nor does comparing Bush to a drug addict.  As if even worse terms haven't been used on Democrats!  It's just a symptom of the nasty political climate that exists now.

Obama has retained the Secretary of Defense from the Bush administration.  He has reappointed Ben Bernanke, a Republican, to the chairmanship of the Federal Reserve.  My God, that must make Obama a closet...Republican!!!

  I don't consider myself a truther or a wild conspiracy theorist, but really, is it too much to ask why, fifty minutes after the WTC was hit, Washington D.C. was left completely unprotected? I understand DOD was running war games that day, but damn, our fighters have a range of about 1500 miles an hour.


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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 8:56pm

 BasmntMadman wrote:

I don't see anything that makes this guy a Communist.


How about his own declaration to that effect?
“I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of… I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary…I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th..By August, I was a communist.”

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 8:38pm

kurtster wrote:

Oh, the Horror ! A communist Czar !

How much longer is Team O going to keep their #1 Commie, Van Jones, around ?

It is fair to judge people by who they surround themselves with isn't it ?

Ayers, Wright, a second Cabinet of Handpicked Czars that would never pass FBI or Senate investigations.

What a guy ! Does anybody know the going pay rate for being a Czar ?

We now have over 30 of them.

They answer to no one but Fearless Leader.

Why do we need a Cabinet anymore, anyway ?


White House lukewarm on Van Jones after his "9/11 Truth" petition signature surfaces — but Newsom "stands by him

 

The Bay Area's Van Jones — the Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality — just finished apologizing for calling Republicans "a-holes" when he got something else to start explaining: How his signature got on a 2004 petition asking for an immediate "inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur." Van said he didn't carefully review the petition before signing it "certainly does not reflect my views now or ever."

Bad sign: When asked if Jones still enjoys the confidence of the President Friday, White House flak Robert Gibbs said "he continues to work in this administration."





I don't see anything that makes this guy a Communist.  His worst sin was signing on to a document that raises the far fetched suspicion that the US government looked the other way as 9/11 happened.  Even then, it calls for an investigation rather than making a condemnation.  If everyone who subscribes to a paranoid CT is a Communist, then we're a Marxist state right now.  I'm not aware of it.

Calling Republicans assholes doesn't make anyone a Communist, nor does comparing Bush to a drug addict.  As if even worse terms haven't been used on Democrats!  It's just a symptom of the nasty political climate that exists now.

Obama has retained the Secretary of Defense from the Bush administration.  He has reappointed Ben Bernanke, a Republican, to the chairmanship of the Federal Reserve.  My God, that must make Obama a closet...Republican!!!


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