Monkeysdad wrote: 
The debt (ceiling) is the total amount we've borrowed, the deficit is what we borrow year to year. The total amount continues to rise but at a slower rate. We shouldn't have to listen to him because it's something congress should be taking care of.  They shouldn't be able to say both spend it and don't spend it.  There is some debate as to whether the ceiling is actually constitutional.

 Isabeau wrote: 
Why, with news like this we shouldn't have to listen to the President ask to raise the debt ceiling. All is well, stroll on.

 Isabeau wrote: 
I think that maybe the economy with Reagan grew in proportion to the deficit; in other words, the ratio wasn't as fucked as it is now. As for article #2, spending on what? Making an assertion places the burden of proof on the assertor, not the assertee. Article # 2 refers to a graph provided by Michael Linden. Who the fuck is Michael Linden? And in article #1 the columnist, Rick Unger, makes the point that the deficit was reduced by 300 billion - not nearly enough to stem the tide on what Obama has spent since 2009 - which is when that figure was estimated.


 

The Best Kept Secret In American Politics-Federal Budget Deficits Are Actually Shrinking!

The Atlantic

 Isabeau wrote: 
C'mon, REALLY? Prove it. And, honestly, the comparison to Hitler is entirely valid. I will teach you.

 kurtster wrote: 
Woa! GROSS Intolerance and National Disgrace all in ONE day!

I'd say that's mighty fine work!  
pssst, The other peeps you mentioned, living outside the U.S., don't tend to viciously attack our politics. They may weigh in, but general in a tactful way. Mutepoint just gets Ugly. And your ad hominem attacks are childish to the extreme.

 arighter2 wrote: 
Funny, I think the democrats are responsible.

 Isabeau wrote: 
He's got just as much of a right to comment on the US as does Richard Prins, haersfur, noenz, sean, the hobiejoes and many others. 

But I will agree with you about US citizens who don't vote.  Yes, they should STFU.  Apathy has no quarter and should be dealt with severely, imo.

But to tell foreigners to STFU, especially the ones you disagree with, makes you part of the problem, exhibits gross intolerance and makes you a national disgrace as well.

'Republicans are Insane' thread gets hit with mortar attacks while you boyz keep playing with your plastic army men.

Interesting how 'sane and egalitarian' you sound when the focus is on the outrageous flaws of the tea nuts, but as SOON as there's the tiniest bit of political blood in the water to use against Obama and the Dems, you pounce on it like a shiny object to a cat.

Does anyone on this forum believe it is fair for an ex-patriot living in another country to brutally eviscerate the U.S. Government in their comments? Going so far as to insult those who comment against those opinions? Does that seem appropriate to anyone? It sure as hell doesn't to me. You reside in a country with Single Payer Health care, yet you weigh on on a country who suffer fatalities every year due to the uninsured not receiving healthcare? Hypocrisy at its finest.

If you cannot or do not vote within our country, then please, STFU. Yes, that means you Beaker, aka Canuck Beaker, aka Mutepoint, aka OneMisableSOB...

 kurtster wrote: 
And yet he is not responsible for the shutdown. The Republicans are. Traitors.

 DaveInVA wrote: 

Reid is a national disgrace, imo.

Help kids with cancer? Reid asks: 'Why would we want to do that?'

California Dem apologies for death rant on family of Cruz staffer

 DaveInVA wrote: 
Yeah - a class act to the very end.

Maybe he can find useful employment cleaning out port-a-potties or something. 

Anthony Weiner caps failed comeback bid with obscene gesture

 Manbird wrote: 

 miamizsun wrote: 
I think the expression is "Schew-win" doi. 

 Proclivities wrote: 
move this guy to tampa and he's a shoe-in

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
blech.....put a bag over his head and perhaps he would be viewable.