I think you are mistaken, Doc...  I think most of what is taught is readin' and writin' and mathematics...  society changes, and it is not liberal or conservative... a while back, women could not vote—  do you think that was a liberal shift?

When I was in high school, we had smoking sections outside the hall doors... any students over 16 could smoke, and they never enforced it, so anybody could smoke...  I used to go outside when I was 15 and smoke cigarettes all the time...  now, if they catch a kid smoking under the age of 18, they take away the driver's license until the student reaches 18...  this is certainly an infringement on student rights, don't you think?  Is it good or bad?  Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with a liberal or conservative agenda...

you folks are getting too hyperbolic with the Big Changes, and it just sounds like the sky is falling chicken little paranoia...

So everything has changed in the last seven months?  that's nutz...

But, are they exposed to 'both'? If you look at US History text books for school kids, you find a growing portrait of America that concentrates on the negative, the failures, the liberal thought, rather than who/what/where/when/why...it's an insidious form of indoctrination and without exposure to the fullness of our history, you will find a common thought suggesting The US is a land of hate, crime, xenophobia and war mongers...for starters.

I got 8th grade civics classes from some RightWingNutZ that would make Zipper blanch. And yet...
 
edit: I just had a flashback... Bob died last winter but he was an amazing jerk. But in 8th grade he spent a month teaching kids what was great about America with a session on "Diseases of the Third World." Kids had to be able to identify symptoms of elephantiasis etc.
 
Dude was odd.

I grew up in the "Birthplace of the War of Northun Aggreshun" and yet I am a social progressive. We all have our own minds from the beginning; some are more "pliable" and open to suggestion than others. I feel confident that our children can be exposed to both right wing facists and left wing socialist and still make up their own minds.  

I grew up in the "Birthplace of the War of Northun Aggreshun" and yet I am a social progressive. We all have our own minds from the beginning; some are more "pliable" and open to suggestion than others. I feel confident that our children can be exposed to both right wing facists and left wing socialist and still make up their own minds.  

Here in MN, the school district might choose the option to show the speech in a seperate room.

If the student wishes to watch it they are free to go to that room & do so.

The parents are also given the option to request that their child not hear or view it. (so in that case the parents would be making that choice for the student)

...are students ever fully capable of making free choices...since they aren't of the age of consent yet?  Sounds like a loaded question to me...

Here in MN, the school district might choose the option to show the speech in a seperate room.

If the student wishes to watch it they are free to go to that room & do so.

The parents are also given the option to request that their child not hear or view it. (so in that case the parents would be making that choice for the student)

...are students ever fully capable of making free choices...since they aren't of the age of consent yet?  Sounds like a loaded question to me...

I read that school districts can opt out. I also read that some schools, I think NY was mentioned, aren't yet in session. If it's determined by the school district, as you said, then how is that a student's fully free choice?

 

???? is there some specific activity where indoctrination is inserted?  And is it a requirment that the students participate?

I have heard that students won't even be required to watch or listen to the speech.  That its fully free choice, determined school district by school district.  That's the way its being done here in Minnesota, perhaps your state is different..

 


 
 
dude... wait. O apostrophe who? are you on crack?

zipper wrote:
Whoa, kids can vote in MA? Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?

Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.

 

Painted_Turtle wrote:
What specific activity is full of the blatant partisan indoctrination?  Are you sure there is a requirment for participation?

One reason people are upset about the Obama speech is that it was announced the same week this came out.

Previous presidents didn't attach a student curriculum to their speeches.