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Coaxial

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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 9:41am

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!
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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 7:35am

 oldviolin wrote:
Weapons the shoes or weapons the mile?

asking for some friends
 

well there are some who think that boots are made for walking too

however, walking a mile in someone's shoes could lead to empathy, understanding, friendship and shared mutual interests/solutions

weaponizing the vehicle and the journey gets you blisters and eventually bunions

and according to the late philosopher dr willy scholl opposing and divisive bunions isn't winning
oldviolin

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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 7:18am



 miamizsun wrote:


dispute resolution?

mediation?

arbitration?

these are usually signs of tolerance

initially they take work and ongoing dialog

or one person/party rule?

it is the road to disaster

how do we incentivize people to embrace diverse thoughts?

to stop weaponizing everything and seeking to harm others?


is it worth the conversation or do we say "my way or else"?


 
Weapons the shoes or weapons the mile?

asking for some friends
rgio

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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 5:45am



 miamizsun wrote:


dispute resolution?

mediation?

arbitration?

these are usually signs of tolerance

initially they take work and ongoing dialog

or one person/party rule?

it is the road to disaster

how do we incentivize people to embrace diverse thoughts?

to stop weaponizing everything and seeking to harm others?

is it worth the conversation or do we say "my way or else"?


 
If you believe it's worth fixing, then don't you have to believe it's worth some effort?

If you don't believe it's redeemable, or if you try and fail, then maybe it's time to find another society to join.

Europeans a century ago did as much.

The US has become a punchline the world over since 2016.

We are obsessed with things and appearances, not accomplishment through effort.  How else to do get $500k to admit a student when 9,500 others get in for free?

People are lost because they can't draw lines anymore for their careers, and they can't rely on anyone for support.  They get angry.

The problem isn't Trump, the problem is that he can find so many willing to listen to him.

Maybe the question is...what would you give up to have the US become a functional, dependable world leader again?
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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 5:16am

 rgio wrote:
Justice and punishment determined through reason lie between your extremes.
 

dispute resolution?

mediation?

arbitration?

these are usually signs of tolerance

initially they take work and ongoing dialog

or one person/party rule?

it is the road to disaster

how do we incentivize people to embrace diverse thoughts?

to stop weaponizing everything and seeking to harm others?

is it worth the conversation or do we say "my way or else"?


rgio

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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 5:03am



 miamizsun wrote:
coffee thought

broadly speaking you may find yourself either

a) seeking rational, reasonable and peaceful dialog/conversation and truly trying to find the signal through the noise

b) seeking some sort of punishment and retribution couched in violence, coercion through acceptable political force

initially one of these takes some time and tolerance and the will to advance a genuine understanding and a shared sustainable, peaceful outcome

the other one defaults to a hellscape of unsustainable authoritarian rule

if a thought process has you signing off on anger and punishment by default, you are set up for failure

all we have are conversations, please try to use them wisely

maybe
 
Justice and punishment determined through reason lie between your extremes.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 14, 2021 - 4:54am

coffee thought

broadly speaking you may find yourself either

a) seeking rational, reasonable and peaceful dialog/conversation and truly trying to find the signal through the noise

b) seeking some sort of punishment and retribution couched in violence, coercion through acceptable political force

initially one of these takes some time and tolerance and the will to advance a genuine understanding and a shared sustainable, peaceful outcome

the other one defaults to a hellscape of unsustainable authoritarian rule

if a thought process has you signing off on anger and punishment by default, you are set up for failure

all we have are conversations, please try to use them wisely

maybe
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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 10:31am

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 10:35am

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Posted: Nov 16, 2020 - 11:54am

i think today may be international tolerance day

stay open, stay friendly, stay tolerant 
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Posted: Aug 8, 2020 - 12:35pm

Media’s ‘Cancel Culture’ Debate Obscures Direct Threats to First Amendment
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Posted: Aug 8, 2020 - 10:17am


Coaxial

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Posted: Aug 7, 2020 - 7:30am

 oldviolin wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:
uh oh...wrong think

Pittsburgh Professor Stripped of Position After Publishing Paper Questioning Affirmative Action In Admissions

This week I testified in the Senate about the erosion of free speech and academic freedom in our universities where professors are being punished or even fired for expressing viewpoints that challenge a new orthodoxy on our campuses, particularly with regard to racial and political issues.  The latest example can be found this week at the University of Pittsburgh, which has removed Associate Professor of Medicine Norman Wang was removed from his position as Program Director of the Electrophysiology Fellowship.  The removal was in direct response to Wang publishing an article in a peer-reviewed journal that questioned the use of affirmative action in medical schools admissions. The action raises serious concerns over both free speech and academic freedom. The only thing more unsettling than the actions of the university was the relative silence of his colleagues throughout the University of Pittsburgh as he was punished for expressing his academic views. 

In the white paper in the Journal of the American Heart Association,  Wang wrote:

“Racial and ethnic preferences at both the undergraduate and professional school levels for blacks and Hispanics result in relatively weak academic starting positions in classes. This has been postulated to lead to poor performance through compounding ‘academic mismatch,’ stress‐related interference, and disengagement. Many do not complete their intended programs or do not attain academic success to be attractive candidates for subsequent educational programs or employment….

“We will have succeeded when we no longer think we require black doctors for black patients, chicano doctors for chicano patients, or gay doctors for gay patients, but rather good doctors for all patients.’ Evolution to strategies that are neutral to race and ethnicity is essential. Ultimately, all who aspire to a profession in medicine and cardiology must be assessed as individuals on the basis of their personal merits, not their racial and ethnic identities.”…

According to MedPage Today, the Journal announced that it was reevaluating the paper and Editor Barry London, MD, PhD, attached an apology to the paper, saying JAHA “will support all efforts to correct this error, including but not limited to the publication of alternate viewpoints, which we solicited at the time of publication but have not yet been submitted to the journal. In addition, we will work to improve our peer review system to prevent future missteps of this type.”

 

Around and around and around it goes; where it stops the emperor has no clothes...
 
That has rhymnicity...You could make it into a song.{#Dancingbanana_2}
oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 7, 2020 - 6:34am



 miamizsun wrote:
uh oh...wrong think

Pittsburgh Professor Stripped of Position After Publishing Paper Questioning Affirmative Action In Admissions

This week I testified in the Senate about the erosion of free speech and academic freedom in our universities where professors are being punished or even fired for expressing viewpoints that challenge a new orthodoxy on our campuses, particularly with regard to racial and political issues.  The latest example can be found this week at the University of Pittsburgh, which has removed Associate Professor of Medicine Norman Wang was removed from his position as Program Director of the Electrophysiology Fellowship.  The removal was in direct response to Wang publishing an article in a peer-reviewed journal that questioned the use of affirmative action in medical schools admissions. The action raises serious concerns over both free speech and academic freedom. The only thing more unsettling than the actions of the university was the relative silence of his colleagues throughout the University of Pittsburgh as he was punished for expressing his academic views. 

In the white paper in the Journal of the American Heart Association,  Wang wrote:

“Racial and ethnic preferences at both the undergraduate and professional school levels for blacks and Hispanics result in relatively weak academic starting positions in classes. This has been postulated to lead to poor performance through compounding ‘academic mismatch,’ stress‐related interference, and disengagement. Many do not complete their intended programs or do not attain academic success to be attractive candidates for subsequent educational programs or employment….

“We will have succeeded when we no longer think we require black doctors for black patients, chicano doctors for chicano patients, or gay doctors for gay patients, but rather good doctors for all patients.’ Evolution to strategies that are neutral to race and ethnicity is essential. Ultimately, all who aspire to a profession in medicine and cardiology must be assessed as individuals on the basis of their personal merits, not their racial and ethnic identities.”…

According to MedPage Today, the Journal announced that it was reevaluating the paper and Editor Barry London, MD, PhD, attached an apology to the paper, saying JAHA â€œwill support all efforts to correct this error, including but not limited to the publication of alternate viewpoints, which we solicited at the time of publication but have not yet been submitted to the journal. In addition, we will work to improve our peer review system to prevent future missteps of this type.”

 

Around and around and around it goes; where it stops the emperor has no clothes...
miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 7, 2020 - 6:20am

uh oh...wrong think

Pittsburgh Professor Stripped of Position After Publishing Paper Questioning Affirmative Action In Admissions

This week I testified in the Senate about the erosion of free speech and academic freedom in our universities where professors are being punished or even fired for expressing viewpoints that challenge a new orthodoxy on our campuses, particularly with regard to racial and political issues.  The latest example can be found this week at the University of Pittsburgh, which has removed Associate Professor of Medicine Norman Wang was removed from his position as Program Director of the Electrophysiology Fellowship.  The removal was in direct response to Wang publishing an article in a peer-reviewed journal that questioned the use of affirmative action in medical schools admissions. The action raises serious concerns over both free speech and academic freedom. The only thing more unsettling than the actions of the university was the relative silence of his colleagues throughout the University of Pittsburgh as he was punished for expressing his academic views. 

In the white paper in the Journal of the American Heart Association,  Wang wrote:

“Racial and ethnic preferences at both the undergraduate and professional school levels for blacks and Hispanics result in relatively weak academic starting positions in classes. This has been postulated to lead to poor performance through compounding ‘academic mismatch,’ stress‐related interference, and disengagement. Many do not complete their intended programs or do not attain academic success to be attractive candidates for subsequent educational programs or employment….

“We will have succeeded when we no longer think we require black doctors for black patients, chicano doctors for chicano patients, or gay doctors for gay patients, but rather good doctors for all patients.’ Evolution to strategies that are neutral to race and ethnicity is essential. Ultimately, all who aspire to a profession in medicine and cardiology must be assessed as individuals on the basis of their personal merits, not their racial and ethnic identities.”…

According to MedPage Today, the Journal announced that it was reevaluating the paper and Editor Barry London, MD, PhD, attached an apology to the paper, saying JAHA “will support all efforts to correct this error, including but not limited to the publication of alternate viewpoints, which we solicited at the time of publication but have not yet been submitted to the journal. In addition, we will work to improve our peer review system to prevent future missteps of this type.”

R_P

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Posted: Aug 5, 2020 - 10:47am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Let that sink in some.



It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.
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Posted: Aug 5, 2020 - 10:13am



 KarmaKarma wrote:
"The Trump campaign has released a TV ad that directly addresses what is commonly referred to as cancel culture, the silencing of people who fear retribution from liberals, like trying to get you fired."

"Polling backs up the effect. Polling shows that a majority of Americans, but particularly conservatives, fear expressing their views. The only people who are comfortable speaking out are people who are strongly liberal."

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/08/trump-launches-cancel-culture-ad-im-afraid-to-say-this-out-loud/


Let that sink in some.
 

Snowflakes who say stuff that's stupid or worse and then whine when they get excoriated for it SHOULD "fear" expressing their views if it happens again and again.
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Posted: Aug 5, 2020 - 10:03am

"The Trump campaign has released a TV ad that directly addresses what is commonly referred to as cancel culture, the silencing of people who fear retribution from liberals, like trying to get you fired."

"Polling backs up the effect. Polling shows that a majority of Americans, but particularly conservatives, fear expressing their views. The only people who are comfortable speaking out are people who are strongly liberal."

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/08/trump-launches-cancel-culture-ad-im-afraid-to-say-this-out-loud/


Let that sink in some.
R_P

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:06pm

 miamizsun wrote:
his penance?

maybe wash 1,000,000 feet?
 
Black feet only.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:58pm

 R_P wrote:
 miamizsun wrote:
where's the forgiveness?

not even an effort to exorcise his demons?

at least buy him a bus ticket to a big tent revival
 
Bring back leper colonies.
 

his penance?

maybe wash 1,000,000 feet?


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