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aflanigan

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 12:21pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

but, but... what about Affirmative Action!?

 

See HERE

(Myth #3)
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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 12:10pm

 hippiechick wrote:

As of last month, 30% of all federal judges are women, a great improvement over the previous admins. Obama has been working hard to provide some equalization in the courts.

The percentage of women in Congress is way low. Women currently in office, as well as a historical summary of women of color in Congress and a list of percentages of women in the U.S. Congress from 1917 to the present. 

Wouldn't it be nice if we never had to think about this again? Maybe we will even have a woman prez in 2016. 

 

I am voting for one this year, how bout you?{#Wink}
hippiechick

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 12:04pm

 MsJudi wrote:

Get back to me on the progress of that when women are paid the same wages as men for doing the same job. {#Wink}

 
As of last month, 30% of all federal judges are women, a great improvement over the previous admins. Obama has been working hard to provide some equalization in the courts.

The percentage of women in Congress is way low. Women currently in office, as well as a historical summary of women of color in Congress and a list of percentages of women in the U.S. Congress from 1917 to the present. 

Wouldn't it be nice if we never had to think about this again? Maybe we will even have a woman prez in 2016. 
MsJudi

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 12:00pm

 aflanigan wrote:


I don't know if they are, or not.  To me, eliminating sexism isn't about keeping score regarding how many x chromosomes wear judicial robes vs. how many y chromosomes.  If we are truly non-prejudiced, we shouldn't care what the sex, or sexual orientation, or race of any applicant is.  We should want to appoint the most qualified applicants regardless of their race, sex, orientation, etc.

 
Get back to me on the progress of that when women are paid the same wages as men for doing the same job. {#Wink}
hippiechick

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 11:32am

 aflanigan wrote:


I don't know if they are, or not.  To me, eliminating sexism isn't about keeping score regarding how many x chromosomes wear judicial robes vs. how many y chromosomes.  If we are truly non-prejudiced, we shouldn't care what the sex, or sexual orientation, or race of any applicant is.  We should want to appoint the most qualified applicants regardless of their race, sex, orientation, etc.

 

Well, we aren't.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 11:21am

 aflanigan wrote:


I don't know if they are, or not.  To me, eliminating sexism isn't about keeping score regarding how many x chromosomes wear judicial robes vs. how many y chromosomes.  If we are truly non-prejudiced, we shouldn't care what the sex, or sexual orientation, or race of any applicant is.  We should want to appoint the most qualified applicants regardless of their race, sex, orientation, etc.

 
but, but... what about Affirmative Action!?
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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 10:51am

 aflanigan wrote:


I don't know if they are, or not.   To me, eliminating sexism isn't about keeping score regarding how many x chromosomes wear judicial robes vs. how many y chromosomes.   If we are truly non-prejudiced, we shouldn't care what the sex, or sexual orientation, or race of any applicant is.   We should want to appoint the most qualified applicants regardless of their race, sex, orientation, etc.

 
That makes too much sense to be posted here. Please to edit/delete.
aflanigan

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 10:44am

 hippiechick wrote:


Why would you even think that they were not qualified?

 

I don't know if they are, or not.  To me, eliminating sexism isn't about keeping score regarding how many x chromosomes wear judicial robes vs. how many y chromosomes.  If we are truly non-prejudiced, we shouldn't care what the sex, or sexual orientation, or race of any applicant is.  We should want to appoint the most qualified applicants regardless of their race, sex, orientation, etc.
hippiechick

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 8:44am

 aflanigan wrote:

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the Hed read, "Obama Appoints Record Number of Qualified Women Judges to Federal Bench"

 





Why would you even think that they were not qualified?
MsJudi

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 8:32am

 aflanigan wrote:

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the Hed read, "Obama Appoints Record Number of Qualified Women Judges to Federal Bench"

 
Were you the one to vet them? You know without a doubt that they're all unqualified?
aflanigan

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 8:28am

 hippiechick wrote: 
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the Hed read, "Obama Appoints Record Number of Qualified Women Judges to Federal Bench"
hippiechick

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Posted: Sep 10, 2012 - 5:49pm

Another great accomplishment by Obama

Obama Appoints Record Number Of Women Judges To Federal Bench


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Posted: Aug 26, 2012 - 1:46am

 kurtster wrote:


I gave up reading on the second page when the converstation kept revolving on how Obama is such a great conciliator.  That is the biggest stretch since the invention of elastic. 

I just remember when Obama finally allowed the Repubs to meet with him over the ACA debate and when he got tired of answering Ryan's questions and basically told Ryan to stuff it by exclaiming I won !  That's why.   That's a real conciliator in action.

 
You are exactly what he's talking about. So much of what Obama does is in lockstep with Bush policies or is taken note for note from the Republican playbook, but you won't give him credit for any of it. His ideal version of healthcare reform probably didn't involve one iota of what wound up in the ACA but he went to Romneycare, he went to ideas originally promoted by the Heritage Foundation, people like Newt, and pieced together ACA from those sources. And his reward for that is to be branded a socialist.

Here's another blog post that takes off from the same Thomas Frank article:

Why We Can't Have A Liberal President

 


buzz

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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 4:27pm

 kurtster wrote:
 ScottN wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

White House Continues to Stonewall

What are you hiding, Obama!?



Now here is a juicy story for Kurtster to jump all over!  {#Arrowu}


 

I bet he is using imported hops and barley.  {#Rolleyes}

 
illegally imported
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 4:25pm

 ScottN wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

White House Continues to Stonewall

What are you hiding, Obama!?



Now here is a juicy story for Kurtster to jump all over!  {#Arrowu}


 

I bet he is using imported hops and barley.  {#Rolleyes}
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 4:20pm

 aflanigan wrote:
There's a rather clear-eyed essay reviewing the failures of Obama's first term that is unfortunately hidden behind a subscription wall.  Here's an interview with the author that gives a sense of the essay.

Thomas Frank: Obama's Squandered Hope

 

I gave up reading on the second page when the converstation kept revolving on how Obama is such a great conciliator.  That is the biggest stretch since the invention of elastic. 

I just remember when Obama finally allowed the Repubs to meet with him over the ACA debate and when he got tired of answering Ryan's questions and basically told Ryan to stuff it by exclaiming I won !  That's why.   That's a real conciliator in action.
ScottN

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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 2:57pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

White House Continues to Stonewall

What are you hiding, Obama!?



Now here is a juicy story for Kurtster to jump all over!  {#Arrowu}

aflanigan

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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 10:43am

There's a rather clear-eyed essay reviewing the failures of Obama's first term that is unfortunately hidden behind a subscription wall.  Here's an interview with the author that gives a sense of the essay.

Thomas Frank: Obama's Squandered Hope
PFM

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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 3:17pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

White House Continues to Stonewall

What are you hiding, Obama!?




 
He's probably right to hide it. Maybe this will get some laws changed so it's no longer illegal in some states to transport alcohol across state lines - or drink your home brew outside your home...
Servo

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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 2:54pm

I wonder if George Washington ever published his recipe for making whiskey. {#Think}


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