Precisely, that was what I was wondering too. You posted the link, not me.

What does emitting sulfur dioxide to reflect the suns rays have to do with white roofs? Gore was clearly marking the distinction between them.

Look I will make it simple for both of us, you start at the premise that you need proof that the government is involved in any nefarious project that they do not admit to.  I operate on the premise that all governments in particular the military wing of them have traditionally done and will always do many evil and nefarious things at the expense of not only their own citizens, but the rest of the worlds and any proof I require is proof that they are not.  This leaves us at an inevitable impasse that will yield nothing through discussion because you cannot prove to me that they are not doing this and proof for you will only be revealed when it is self evident perhaps years down the road or not. I have absolutely no problem with you thinking that I am a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theory and fully support your freedom to mock me incessantly if you wish.

  truly. Sir Droseph... that second article was about painting roofs white. 

um, the word chemtrails doesn't come up once in that article.

um, the word chemtrails doesn't come up once in that article.

Actually Kurt, I have a little different take on it.  I do believe climate change has been excacerbated by man and that it is a natural inevitability as well however I don't think that geo engineering is the cause of global warming but a later further excacerbating factor.  My opinion is that this was started as a weather modification military project to gain obvious strategic advantage by manipulating the weather for combat purposes and now they are expanding as a misguided attempt to curb global warming hyper accelerated by the industrial age.  I do think that a lot of climate change alarmists including Al Gore do consider chemtrails as a major threat to even more accelerating global warming and make up a large portion of those concerned with this issue.

Yes it is.  I saw the vid this morning, but didn't have the time for a proper comment.

I say to those who deny the existence and purpose of these chemtrails that I must feel the same way about them as those who insist that climate change is man made feel about my denial of that.  

In reality, those who insist that climate change is man made must look at chemtrails as a major source of man made climate change.

I don't know how much more evidence is needed to say that chemtrails are real and the largest part of the geo engineering plans under way.  But the deniers of geo engineering insist its not real.  The deniers refuse to believe their own eyes and say that it is impossible.

I'll just once again refer to the profound change in weather we had during the 3 days that all US aviation was grounded after 9 - 11 and for the week or so afterwards until air traffic returned to normal. 

Why climate change alarmists don't consider chemtrails as a legitimate cause is beyond me.

Let's back up the bus.

When talking about something as in the case of chemtrails, this is not Congress or the Executive Branch of the .gov running this, its the military and also private corporations.  The military is many things, but incompetent is not one of them.  Neither is NASA an incompetent organization.  Not everything in government is run like the Post Office or the Department of Health and Human Services.

I don't need to wait for the next Eric Snowden to come along and tell me what I already know.

Additionally, just because something cannot be proven does not make it false.

O F F S .... !

You guys are all over government as being incompetent, until it comes to conspiracy theories, and then gov is suddenly smart and capable.

 

NASA, Air Force, US government in general.  You name it. They are actually going public with a lot of the reflection particles they are dispersing in their dangerous attempts to slow down global warming. That is out in the open now, I don't really know what else to say.

Here  and here.   And here is a govt. propoganda softening up version.

links mon,  I need me some links

NASA, Air Force, US government in general.  You name it. They are actually going public with a lot of the reflection particles they are dispersing in their dangerous attempts to slow down global warming. That is out in the open now, I don't really know what else to say.

Who exactly?  This all feels like a plot for a James Bond movie.

All I have to say about that is one person's nefarious is another's misguided attempt to save the world.

She conflates a number of issues here, some of which are bona fide:

1. yes, we pollute the atmosphere
2. yes, sustained contrails are man-made clouds which alter solar influx and can trap heat (this would both alleviate and exacerbate global warming)
3. no, sustained contrails are not a new phenomenon because of some conspiracy putting chemicals in the fuel but a natural consequence of operating jet engines through different atmospheric conditions. Their prevalence can be easily explained by the huge rise in air traffic.
4. yes, there have been small scale geo-engineering experiments on the effect of chemicals on the atmosphere (some of which work quite well, such as cloud seeding to prevent hailstorms).

This does not imply, however, that there is a huge geo-engineering scheme going on behind our backs and funded by NASA. If she really thinks these clouds ("which we have never seen before") are the product of such activity, it would be great if she could explain their actual formation and how the chemicals she proposes (mainly aluminum) actually do this, plus the logistics involved. Evidence of this is totally lacking.

What she does is conflate all these points to suggest that what we see is the product of a hidden geo-engineering project. I totally agree with the general approach that we should not pollute more but should pollute less and that we should be wary of any geo-engineering schemes proposed as "fixes" to what we have damaged elsewhere.
I nevertheless remain extremely sceptical that there is some nefarious plot behind this to geo-engineer the atmosphere. Everything we see can be easily explained by the processes we already know of. These are in themselves bad enough without having to posit some bad of evil scientits behind it all. This just distracts attention from the real issues.