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rgio

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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 4:00pm

 kurtster wrote:
Who in the hell are you talking about ?

Kurt...this is Chuck Grassley.  90 in a few weeks.  The guy who's releasing documents with unverified details from an informant they can't find and who won't testify.


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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 2:36pm

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Let us not forget that these are career individuals with impeccable records (...)

I thought that was a bad thing...
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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 2:26pm

 steeler wrote:

Yes, the burden of proof resides with those making an allegation.


Of course, that doesn't jibe with "she drinks the blood of children" or "show us your birth certificate" but that didn't seem to slow them down. They never - ever - had any proof, just screeds.

Which is why I'm hoping there's a non-Biden Dem-supported candidate for 2024, but they're holding back on announcing so they don't have to deal with those unsubstantiated accusations that had no proof to back them up.

(Difference with Trump was we had the "when you're famous they let you do it" and "If she weren't my daughter I'd probably date her" stuff right there, as well as him saluting in N Korea and all that other stuff.)

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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 11:38am

 rgio wrote:
Pretty ironic that Kurt is so

supportive of a guy who'll be 90 in September

while screaming to anyone who'll listen that next years vote is to elect Kamala Harris because Biden's 81.
 
Who in the hell are you talking about ?

And not because Biden is 81.  His age has nothing to do with it.  Never said it was about his age.  Don't put words in my mouth.  It is about his mental state or lack thereof ...
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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 11:32am

 steeler wrote:
 Steely_D wrote:
The absence of evidence is what proves that there must be evidence.

Yes, the burden of proof resides with those making an allegation.
 
Let us not forget that these are career individuals with impeccable records testifying under oath with the penalty of perjury for lying under oath.

Of course that is irrelevant to others here.  You get it but no one else here is willing to consider this.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 11:17am

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The absence of evidence is what proves that there must be evidence.

Yes, the burden of proof resides with those making an allegation.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 11:11am

 steeler wrote:

Yes, if true about the obstruction, but this also becomes a pernicious circle:  Biden most definitely received bribes, we just cannot prove it because they are obstructing us. The 2020 election most definitely was stolen from Trump, we just cannot provide the evidence of this unprecedented, massive fraud because they are obstructing us. Ergo, we can assume the truth of our allegations because of our accompanying allegation of obstruction, thereby absolving us of having to prove these allegations. 


The absence of evidence is what proves that there must be evidence.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 10:57am

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. . .
 Well as we are finding out with the whistleblower testimony, you cannot find any evidence when you are obstructed from looking for any.
. . .


Yes, if true about the obstruction, but this also becomes a pernicious circle:  Biden most definitely received bribes, we just cannot prove it because they are obstructing us. The 2020 election most definitely was stolen from Trump, we just cannot provide the evidence of this unprecedented, massive fraud because they are obstructing us. Ergo, we can assume the truth of our allegations because of our accompanying allegation of obstruction, thereby absolving us of having to prove these allegations. 




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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 9:44am

 rgio wrote:
Pretty ironic that Kurt is so supportive of a guy who'll be 90 in September while screaming to anyone who'll listen that next years vote is to elect Kamala Harris because Biden's 81.

QFolks: but...don't you see? Biden - 81, 8+1=9 JUST SHORT OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS because he isn't a follower of G*D! 
And Trump is 77 - with 7 being the Perfect Number, so he's DOUBLY perfect! 
Wheels within wheels, man!!!

(Ignore that if you give each letter in "Trump" a number and 20+18+21+13+16 is 88, or HH, a known white supremist code.)
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Posted: Jul 22, 2023 - 5:29am

 kcar wrote:
You are undoubtedly quite entertaining to someone, somewhere. 

But the rest of us don't give a f**k about your endlessly recycled nuttery.

Sure, nothing in that document has been verified...and Grassley himself said the alleged witness couldn't be found... but the tribe LOVES that sort of rule breaking.  Hell, they're going to nominate a guy with likely 4 or 5 trials during the election year, 3 of which are for crimes against the country they so dearly love.


Pretty ironic that Kurt is so supportive of a guy who'll be 90 in September while screaming to anyone who'll listen that next years vote is to elect Kamala Harris because Biden's 81.

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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 10:34pm

 kurtster wrote:

So bribery of a sitting VPOTUS is of no concern to you and should not be for anyone else including citizens of the US ?

Biden is compromised and not just with Ukraine.  China owns him outright and has the receipts to prove it and we are finding the bank records in this process.

Xi is most certainly blackmailing Biden to do his bidding.  

I can't wait for others, especially kcar to come in and once again say that the Biden billion $ blackmail of Ukraine has been debunked over and over again and that there is no evidence of it as proof.  Well as we are finding out with the whistleblower testimony, you cannot find any evidence when you are obstructed from looking for any.

We now have two separate and unrelated references citing Joe Biden as the "Big Guy".  This latest and Tony Bobulinski.




You are undoubtedly quite entertaining to someone, somewhere. 


But the rest of us don't give a f**k about your endlessly recycled nuttery. 










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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 9:02pm

The Ukrainians are in on it too...

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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 8:35pm

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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 1:13am

 kurtster wrote:
Funny, not, how the one's doing the accusing (the original) are generally guilty of what they are accusing of others ... as in this example.

And vice versa. You do remember Trump's quid pro quo too?

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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 1:09am

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Xi is most certainly blackmailing Biden to do his bidding.

The funhouse mirror of Trump being Putin's b!tch.
 
Funny, not, how the one's doing the accusing (the original) are generally guilty of what they are accusing of others ... as in this example.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 12:55am

 kurtster wrote:
Xi is most certainly blackmailing Biden to do his bidding.

The funhouse mirror of Trump being Putin's b!tch.

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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 12:51am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 kurtster wrote: I'm so tired of this blatant tribalism. Can't you guys finally install some kind of proportional representation and start some meaningful consensus-building politics for a change? You are just ripping yourselves apart with this shit. 
 
So bribery of a sitting VPOTUS is of no concern to you and should not be for anyone else including citizens of the US ?

Biden is compromised and not just with Ukraine.  China owns him outright and has the receipts to prove it and we are finding the bank records in this process.

Xi is most certainly blackmailing Biden to do his bidding.  

I can't wait for others, especially kcar to come in and once again say that the Biden billion $ blackmail of Ukraine has been debunked over and over again and that there is no evidence of it as proof.  Well as we are finding out with the whistleblower testimony, you cannot find any evidence when you are obstructed from looking for any.

We now have two separate and unrelated references citing Joe Biden as the "Big Guy".  This latest and Tony Bobulinski.


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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 12:49am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
I'm so tired of this blatant tribalism. Can't you guys finally install some kind of proportional representation and start some meaningful consensus-building politics for a change? You are just ripping yourselves apart with this shit. 

Be more like Poland! Shared values, yadda, yadda, yadda!
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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 12:36am

 kurtster wrote:

I'm so tired of this blatant tribalism. Can't you guys finally install some kind of proportional representation and start some meaningful consensus-building politics for a change? You are just ripping yourselves apart with this shit. 
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 21, 2023 - 12:00am

Oh my !!!

Grassley Obtains & Releases FBI Record Alleging VP Biden Foreign Bribery Scheme

.
The actual document ...


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