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Posted: Nov 11, 2018 - 12:04pm

Even the FBI Thinks Police Have Links to White Supremacists — but Don’t Tell the New York Times
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Posted: Sep 13, 2018 - 12:37pm

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Indeed it is.  You can clearly tell this was not a threatening situation.  The officer yelling out instructions was way too over the top in my opinion and possibly may have escalated the trigger happy officer.  The tension and sharp tone in his voice was very alarming.   Of course I only saw the portion of the video that had the perps already kneeling on the floor.  Could be I am missing whatever escalated the officer to the point of shooting up a crawling guy on the floor.

 
I watched it from the beginning when the two people came out. First they were standing, arms raised, cooperative. They both got down on the ground as instructed. The officers got the woman out without incident. The guy did everything possible to cooperate. That was an execution.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2018 - 12:01pm

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I just watched the body-cam video from a shooting last year. Daniel Shaver. It is extremely disturbing. The officer was acquitted.
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Indeed it is.  You can clearly tell this was not a threatening situation.  The officer yelling out instructions was way too over the top in my opinion and possibly may have escalated the trigger happy officer.  The tension and sharp tone in his voice was very alarming.   Of course I only saw the portion of the video that had the perps already kneeling on the floor.  Could be I am missing whatever escalated the officer to the point of shooting up a crawling guy on the floor.
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Posted: Sep 12, 2018 - 3:11pm

I just watched the body-cam video from a shooting last year. Daniel Shaver. It is extremely disturbing. The officer was acquitted.
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Posted: Sep 12, 2018 - 1:53am

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Exactly. Or did the murdered guy open the door for her? Haven't kept up with all the details. 

Also: wouldn't she have figured out it wasn't her place as soon as she saw the interior of the apartment? 

You have to wonder if she was drunk or under the influence of something like Adderall. Someone posting in this thread mentioned that she was coming off a 12-hour shift. 

 
There's a weird cognitive effect where, if you see something that is completely out of place with what you expect, your brain can't process the information properly. Not that I'm making excuses.

IMO the real problem is that police are trained to respond too quickly, without taking the time to assess alternatives to their first impression of danger. That probably makes it a little less likely for them to get killed and a lot more likely for them to kill someone else.
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Posted: Sep 11, 2018 - 9:27am

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Exactly. Or did the murdered guy open the door for her? Haven't kept up with all the details. 

Also: wouldn't she have figured out it wasn't her place as soon as she saw the interior of the apartment? 

You have to wonder if she was drunk or under the influence of something like Adderall. Someone posting in this thread mentioned that she was coming off a 12-hour shift. 
 
Some reports say it was a 15-hour shift. Not as unusual as you'd think.

Reports say the door wasn't completely closed, and the act of putting her keycard in the door pushed it open.

But shooting in the dark? WTAF? Say it was her apartment, and it was a relative visiting? Or a maintenance worker replacing lightbulbs or something? Not likely at 10pm, but still a possibility. No matter, just shoot first, ask questions later. Or maybe just turn on the damn lights before you start blasting.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2018 - 8:05pm

Dallas Officer Claims Botham Jean Ignored Her 'Verbal Commands'
The officer said that she was able to enter the apartment because the door was slightly ajar and that she initially believed she was in her own apartment. The attorney representing Jean’s family, Lee Merritt, told local TV station CBS 11 there are two witnesses who contradict Guyger’s statement to the Rangers.

According to Merritt, the witnesses said they heard a woman knocking on the door before the shooting and saying, “Let me in.” He said Jean was known to be a “meticulous” person who would not have left his apartment door ajar.

Guyger said in her statement to the Rangers the apartment was completely dark when she fired. It was only after she fired and turned on the  lights that she said she realized she entered the wrong apartment, which is on a floor below hers. 
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Posted: Sep 10, 2018 - 7:54pm

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Horrible situation all around. My first question how she entered an apartment that was not her own.

 

Exactly. Or did the murdered guy open the door for her? Haven't kept up with all the details. 

Also: wouldn't she have figured out it wasn't her place as soon as she saw the interior of the apartment? 

You have to wonder if she was drunk or under the influence of something like Adderall. Someone posting in this thread mentioned that she was coming off a 12-hour shift. 


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Posted: Sep 10, 2018 - 6:42pm

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Dallas police seek manslaughter warrant against officer who killed neighbor
Dallas police said the officer called for help and told responding officers that "she entered the victim's apartment believing that it was her own."


 
Horrible situation all around. My first question how she entered an apartment that was not her own.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2018 - 5:35pm

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It's really sad. She screwed up. I guess that's why it is manslaughter, not murder. At least she responded properly after the fact.

 
It's frightening to understand that unless one was there, it's really just spoon-fed information.  I hope I never fuck up in a way that lands me in a tragic position like this one.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2018 - 4:20pm

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This thing is a mess. She had only lived there about a month, so going to the wrong floor wouldn't be far-fetched. It's a new complex, upscale (i.e. mostly white). She works 12 hour shifts, probably hasn't met the neighbors. The doors are probably auto-locking so she'd have to use her key. But it didn't fit: maybe a clue it's the wrong door?

Guy hears the noise and goes to the door, opens it. Black man! Danger! Must Shoot!

I hope they get to the bottom of this. Even if they can't charge her, she is not qualified to be on the force. He is dead, her life is ruined. For what?
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It's really sad. She screwed up. I guess that's why it is manslaughter, not murder. At least she responded properly after the fact.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2018 - 8:40am

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Dallas police seek manslaughter warrant against officer who killed neighbor
Dallas police said the officer called for help and told responding officers that "she entered the victim's apartment believing that it was her own."


 
This thing is a mess. She had only lived there about a month, so going to the wrong floor wouldn't be far-fetched. It's a new complex, upscale (i.e. mostly white). She works 12 hour shifts, probably hasn't met the neighbors. The doors are probably auto-locking so she'd have to use her key. But it didn't fit: maybe a clue it's the wrong door?

Guy hears the noise and goes to the door, opens it. Black man! Danger! Must Shoot!

I hope they get to the bottom of this. Even if they can't charge her, she is not qualified to be on the force. He is dead, her life is ruined. For what?
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Posted: Sep 7, 2018 - 3:48pm

Dallas police seek manslaughter warrant against officer who killed neighbor
Dallas police said the officer called for help and told responding officers that "she entered the victim's apartment believing that it was her own."

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Posted: Aug 9, 2018 - 8:09pm

Brothers in arms...
Berkeley police under fire for publishing anti-fascist activists' names and photos
The controversy comes as police agencies in California and across the country have repeatedly faced scrutiny for working with neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups by shielding leaders of those organizations and arresting and prosecuting anti-fascists participating in counter demonstrations.  Events organized by Trump supporters and the far right have repeatedly devolved into violent clashes in the US, with anti-fascists accusing police of using excessive force against the left.

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Posted: Aug 8, 2018 - 11:25am

An 11-year-old girl was accused of shoplifting. An off-duty officer Tasered her in the back.
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Posted: Jul 12, 2018 - 12:48pm

The drive for "efficiency/efficacy"...
Probe found Fla. police chief told officers to pin unsolved crimes on random black people: report
The charges were part of a long history of targeting random people to achieve a spotless crime-solving record before an internal investigation in 2014, the Herald reported.

“If they have burglaries that are open cases that are not solved yet, if you see anybody black walking through our streets and they have somewhat of a record, arrest them so we can pin them for all the burglaries,” Officer Anthony De La Torre said as part the probe. “They were basically doing this to have a 100 percent clearance rate for the city.”

Four officers — a third of the tiny, 12-man force — admitted to an outside investigator that they felt pressured to file inaccurate charges.


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Posted: Jul 11, 2018 - 2:22pm

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To Protect and Serve
 
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Posted: Jul 11, 2018 - 1:42pm

To Protect and Serve
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Posted: Jul 11, 2018 - 12:44pm

Chicago officer under investigation after viral video shows him saying ‘I kill motherf—-ers’
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