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westslope

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021 - 5:03pm

OK.  Just had a really dumb question pop into my head.  Here it is:

Is it not possible to train police officers to shoot to immobilize without killing the suspect?

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Posted: Apr 21, 2021 - 4:54pm

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More police die by suicide than by other causes?   I did not know that.
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Posted: Apr 21, 2021 - 4:17pm

Grim list of deaths at police hands grows even after verdict
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Posted: Apr 13, 2021 - 7:37am

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Never mind that the Taser is a bright banana yellow...

I don't know what magic BillG used to turn bold back on but it sure shows up now. 

Yeah, I saw the footage, and I don't know where to start...

The location and timing was perfect though, I'll give her that much. Ugh.
c.
edit: The officer is a 26-year veteran. 

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Posted: Apr 12, 2021 - 4:21pm

 R_P wrote:

Oops, wrong gun. Sorry.


Never mind that the Taser is a bright banana yellow...

I don't know what magic BillG used to turn bold back on but it sure shows up now. 
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Posted: Apr 12, 2021 - 4:06pm

Oops, wrong gun. Sorry.
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Posted: Apr 11, 2021 - 2:54pm

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Posted: Mar 7, 2021 - 6:19am

here is an example of how quickly things can go bad (nothing visually graphic but you get the idea)

woman calls for help dealing with an abusive man...


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Posted: Mar 7, 2021 - 6:14am



 haresfur wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:
role reversal of sorts...

 
Ok, I haven't watched this because time, but I have done quite a few role-playing training exercises for various things and there is tremendous potential for abuse in setting up situations to have predetermined outcomes that just reinforce the biases of the trainers rather than actually training people for reasonably realistic situations. It is hard to balance low-probability/high risk events with high-probability/low risk events, but the result is often to elevate the significance of the low probability events, particularly in the case of police where there is very low probability of consequences for blowing citizens away because you thought there was a slight possibility of them trying to harm you.

 
you should watch it

and is there a legit argument for  guided policing/law enforcement?  something that may have better outcomes? 

absolutely, especially when there is a chance for the initiation of a strategy (serving a warrant for example)


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Posted: Mar 6, 2021 - 4:29pm



 miamizsun wrote:
role reversal of sorts...

 
Ok, I haven't watched this because time, but I have done quite a few role-playing training exercises for various things and there is tremendous potential for abuse in setting up situations to have predetermined outcomes that just reinforce the biases of the trainers rather than actually training people for reasonably realistic situations. It is hard to balance low-probability/high risk events with high-probability/low risk events, but the result is often to elevate the significance of the low probability events, particularly in the case of police where there is very low probability of consequences for blowing citizens away because you thought there was a slight possibility of them trying to harm you.

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Posted: Mar 6, 2021 - 11:39am

role reversal of sorts...

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Posted: Feb 24, 2021 - 12:55am



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Heaven forbid you should walk in the street where at least the snow is packed down

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Posted: Feb 23, 2021 - 1:13pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 7:45am



 miamizsun wrote:
unfortunately a couple of fbi agents were killed here yesterday

just thinking about the process of capturing a human being

safety, resistance, leverage, difficulty, strategy, etc.

could it be safer and easier to arrest someone once outside their nest/burrow/home turf?

is there a  way to minimize risk for all involved? 

might produce a better outcome or the odds of a better outcome
 
Sure, but it's not as much FUN. Where else are they gonna use all those fancy military-grade toys?

Local (former) Sheriff escalated situations for ratings. Which led to at least one death. See: 'Live PD Williamson County'. 

FYI, Wil-co recently elected the first Dem Sheriff in something like 20 years. Whats-his-name is still costing them a fortune, in $$$ and reputation.
c.

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 5:25am



 miamizsun wrote:
unfortunately a couple of fbi agents were killed here yesterday

just thinking about the process of capturing a human being

safety, resistance, leverage, difficulty, strategy, etc.

could it be safer and easier to arrest someone once outside their nest/burrow/home turf?

is there a  way to minimize risk for all involved? 

might produce a better outcome or the odds of a better outcome
 
Saw that big time over here. Praying for everyone.

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 5:08am

unfortunately a couple of fbi agents were killed here yesterday

just thinking about the process of capturing a human being

safety, resistance, leverage, difficulty, strategy, etc.

could it be safer and easier to arrest someone once outside their nest/burrow/home turf?

is there a  way to minimize risk for all involved? 

might produce a better outcome or the odds of a better outcome
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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 7:27am

Police evidently incapable of controlling a nine year-old girl without the use of handcuffs and pepper spray.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2021 - 5:04am

Fatal Police Shootings Of Unarmed Black People Reveal Troubling Patterns
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