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Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:09am

 MusicIsMotion wrote:
 
No way.  The repairs you made already are justifiable but sinking that kind of money into it wouldn't be financially wise, unless you just REALLY like the car and you're planning to keep it and drive it.  If you want a new one, prices are crazy low - auto makers need sales badly.  

The new Accords are HAWT!

 
Yeah, & this is a gret time to finance - auto companies are DESPERATE for your new car business.  You might even get X2 trade-in value - make that sales(wo)man SWEAT!

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Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:01am

 rosedraws wrote:
All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)

 
Check junkyards for  a catalytic converter: you could probably find one for a fraction of the cost.

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Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 8:59am

 rosedraws wrote:
All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)
  
No way.  The repairs you made already are justifiable but sinking that kind of money into it wouldn't be financially wise, unless you just REALLY like the car and you're planning to keep it and drive it.  If you want a new one, prices are crazy low - auto makers need sales badly.  

The new Accords are HAWT!


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Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 8:54am

All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)
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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 10:07pm

For everyone's reference there's a website that has instructions with photos for removing car stereos and speakers on many vehicles: www.carstereoremoval.com

I bought a set for my wife's car yesterday, and they seem to be clear and comprehensive.

They charge $4.99, but I figure that's cheap compared to breaking something! 
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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:21pm

 rosedraws wrote:


Good thoughts.  I know I need shocks.  But that wouldnt effect  mileage, would it?


 

Well, as far as tire wear is affected. They do affect ride comfort and safety though. I guess I was throwing out different things for a car with that many miles. Rotten vac. hoses and the air cleaner will rob you. So will neglected oil and filter, although it sounds like you're on top of that.{#Good-vibes}


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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:13pm

Jimi_the_Saint wrote:

It kinda depends on the options on the car. If you have crank windows, you need a special tool to take off the window crank (available at any auto repair place). It's cheap little metal thing that looks like an open ended wrench). Assuming you have power windows, though, you can pretty well just pull the panel off on most cars. They are just held in with plastic anchors (be ready to buy new anchors anyway - they never fit right again once they've been removed and they should be cheap). You will hear a ripping plastic sound that sounds much like you are trying to undo a zip tie. That is OK. Those anchors are all around the door panel (probably 20 of them). When you replace them, it's as easy as pushing the head of the anchor into a hole and lining them up with the holes in the door frame. The speaker is just held in with a few screws and can be easily replaced with a screwdriver. You can do it all yourself. It would be hard to screw up too bad.



BTW, this is exactly what I did. Powerwindows, no special tool needed. Had to unscrew the thing around the power window button, and unplug the electronics (easy). Then, gentle prying with a spatula was good. There were about 8 anchors. Littledraws was really helpful remembering how it all went back together, and helped line everything up to snap it back on. One anchor broke, but it was fine not to replace it. We did crack the housing on the door handle, but I removed it, superglued it with some skill... and now it looks pretty good.

and ooooh, it is so nice to have a non-ruined speaker in there!  Thx for your help.

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:09pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Also on my To Do list. 



 
I meant Oldviolini - but we could all use a thyroid check!


Okay I'm done now


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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:08pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Good thoughts.  I know I need shocks.  But that wouldnt effect  mileage, would it?


 
Yeah. If you don't have shocks your tire will rub.
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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:08pm

oldviolin wrote:

That car likely is front wheel drive I'm thinking, and only has bearings in the rear. If you've had brakes replaced likely they were repacked.
Get the CV joints and dust boots inspected in the front, as well as struts and rear shocks. Note any fluid leaks. Buy a quality injector cleaner additive and change the air filter every 3 to 4 months, even if it looks clean. Make sure that there aren't any rotten vaccuum hoses. Keep oil and filter changed regularly.
I don't think 26 or 27 mpg with a light foot would be too much to ask.


Good thoughts.  I know I need shocks.  But that wouldnt effect  mileage, would it?

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:07pm

manbirdexperiment wrote:

Have you had your thyroid checked lately? Because maybe you should? Just in case?



Also on my To Do list. 
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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:05pm

Lazy8 wrote:
20K miles/year? Damn, I thought you worked from homeI

If wheel bearings were costing you 2mpg they would be toast, and you'd hear them. O2 sensors usually either work or they don't, they don't degrade and affect mileage without the fuel injection computer issuing an error message. Injectors ditto—closed loop system. By the time they are bad enough to affect gas mileage the car will run terribly. More likely culprits:

When was your last tuneup? On a car this age you might be due for spark plugs.

Tire pressure. This can sneak up on you.

Wheel alignment. If it's costing this much it's costing you tires too.

Do you have a temperature gauge? Is it reading cold all the time? A thermostat can stick open as well as shut, the engine will run cold, and you'll see a drop in mileage.

Have you added any accessories, like a roof rack or cargo box? They cost more than you'd think.

Are you running the A/C more than usual?

Are teenagers driving the car between fillups? Teenagers are hell on gas mileage.

Has the composition of your fuel changed lately? Gasohol will give worse gas mileage.

There are a few more things that might be sources of trouble, if I think of any I'll post.


I do work from home... but the other car is a lease so we're always using mine for trips, to keep mileage low on his.

I did have a tuneup last year I think, and wheel alignment. But, Lucky is the man with a reliable mechanic (not me, I'm afraid)

This is an interesting question about fuel quality being extra poor... I found rumors online about it... but it sounds like an urban myth.

I'll watch out for the tire pressure sneaking up on me.

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:03pm

 oldviolin wrote:

Anchors aweigh!


 
Have you had your thyroid checked lately? Because maybe you should? Just in case?
rosedraws

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:01pm

manbirdexperiment wrote:

Have you gained a lot of weight lately?

Grown a huge goiter?Gotten into the bad habit of dragging your feet in the road while you drive?

Do you give rides to clowns?

Have you started towing an RV behind your car when you go on vacation?

Do you release the parking brake when you drive?

How do you like your steak? Well done or medium rare?

When did you quit taking steroids?


    no, really,  

great comments too

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 8:59pm

 manbirdexperiment wrote:

Have you gained a lot of weight lately?

Grown a huge goiter?
 
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Do you give rides to clowns?

Have you started towing an RV behind your car when you go on vacation?

Do you release the parking brake when you drive?

How do you like your steak? Well done or medium rare?

When did you quit taking steroids
 


 
Anchors aweigh!

Manbird

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 8:57pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

20K miles/year? Damn, I thought you worked from homeI

If wheel bearings were costing you 2mpg they would be toast, and you'd hear them. O2 sensors usually either work or they don't, they don't degrade and affect mileage without the fuel injection computer issuing an error message. Injectors ditto—closed loop system. By the time they are bad enough to affect gas mileage the car will run terribly. More likely culprits:

When was your last tuneup? On a car this age you might be due for spark plugs.

Tire pressure. This can sneak up on you.

Wheel alignment. If it's costing this much it's costing you tires too.

Do you have a temperature gauge? Is it reading cold all the time? A thermostat can stick open as well as shut, the engine will run cold, and you'll see a drop in mileage.

Have you added any accessories, like a roof rack or cargo box? They cost more than you'd think.

Are you running the A/C more than usual?

Are teenagers driving the car between fillups? Teenagers are hell on gas mileage.

Has the composition of your fuel changed lately? Gasohol will give worse gas mileage.

There are a few more things that might be sources of trouble, if I think of any I'll post.


 
Have you gained a lot of weight lately?

Grown a huge goiter?
 
Gotten into the bad habit of dragging your feet in the road while you drive?

Do you give rides to clowns?

Have you started towing an RV behind your car when you go on vacation?

Do you release the parking brake when you drive?

How do you like your steak? Well done or medium rare?

When did you quit taking steroids?
 


oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 8:53pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
20K miles/year? Damn, I thought you worked from homeI

If wheel bearings were costing you 2mpg they would be toast, and you'd hear them. O2 sensors usually either work or they don't, they don't degrade and affect mileage without the fuel injection computer issuing an error message. Injectors ditto—closed loop system. By the time they are bad enough to affect gas mileage the car will run terribly. More likely culprits:

When was your last tuneup? On a car this age you might be due for spark plugs.

Tire pressure. This can sneak up on you.

Wheel alignment. If it's costing this much it's costing you tires too.

Do you have a temperature gauge? Is it reading cold all the time? A thermostat can stick open as well as shut, the engine will run cold, and you'll see a drop in mileage.

Have you added any accessories, like a roof rack or cargo box? They cost more than you'd think.

Are you running the A/C more than usual?

Are teenagers driving the car between fillups? Teenagers are hell on gas mileage.

Has the composition of your fuel changed lately? Gasohol will give worse gas mileage.

There are a few more things that might be sources of trouble, if I think of any I'll post.

 
All the above.{#Yes}

Lazy8

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 8:47pm

rosedraws wrote:
I was doing math while driving today (I often do this).

My car mileage has dipped to even worse lately, not sure why. (25mpg to 23mpg)

So, I looked up ways to increase efficiency... fuel injectors and O2 sensors seem likely. I've also thought I might have someone repack my wheel bearings (my '02 Accord has 154K. I'm so proud!)

But then I was thinking... 2mpg...

Lets say I drive 20k per year.
25MPG = 800gallons x $4 = $3200 per year. (really?! shit. no wonder I can't make ends meet.)
23MPG = 870gallons x $4 = $3478 per year.

So, If I could get ALL that work done for under $300... I'll break even. In a YEAR. If I improve to 26MPG, It's only $123 more in fuel savings. $3478 for 23MPG, $3076 for 26MPG. $402 in fuel savings for 3MPG.

So, I'll focus on keeping my tires inflated properly, and driving more cautiously, and driving less (of course).

It was interesting to finally figure it out though. Although, I understand, in the grand scheme of things, if EVERYONE saved 3MPG, it would have HUGE implications to our fuel usage.

20K miles/year? Damn, I thought you worked from homeI

If wheel bearings were costing you 2mpg they would be toast, and you'd hear them. O2 sensors usually either work or they don't, they don't degrade and affect mileage without the fuel injection computer issuing an error message. Injectors ditto—closed loop system. By the time they are bad enough to affect gas mileage the car will run terribly. More likely culprits:

When was your last tuneup? On a car this age you might be due for spark plugs.

Tire pressure. This can sneak up on you.

Wheel alignment. If it's costing this much it's costing you tires too.

Do you have a temperature gauge? Is it reading cold all the time? A thermostat can stick open as well as shut, the engine will run cold, and you'll see a drop in mileage.

Have you added any accessories, like a roof rack or cargo box? They cost more than you'd think.

Are you running the A/C more than usual?

Are teenagers driving the car between fillups? Teenagers are hell on gas mileage.

Has the composition of your fuel changed lately? Gasohol will give worse gas mileage.

There are a few more things that might be sources of trouble, if I think of any I'll post.

oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 8:31pm

 rosedraws wrote:

I was doing math while driving today (I often do this).

My car mileage has dipped to even worse lately, not sure why. (25mpg to 23mpg)

So, I looked up ways to increase efficiency... fuel injectors and O2 sensors seem likely.  I've also thought I might have someone repack my wheel bearings (my '02 Accord has 154K.  I'm so proud!)

But then I was thinking... 2mpg... 

Lets say I drive 20k per year. 
25MPG = 800gallons x $4 = $3200 per year.  (really?! shit.  no wonder I can't make ends meet.)
23MPG = 870gallons x $4 = $3478 per year. 

So, If I could get ALL that work done for under $300... I'll break even. In a YEAR.  If I improve to 26MPG, It's only $123 more in fuel savings.  $3478 for 23MPG, $3076 for 26MPG.  $402 in fuel savings for 3MPG.

So, I'll focus on keeping my tires inflated properly, and driving more cautiously, and driving less (of course).

It was interesting to finally figure it out though.  Although, I understand, in the grand scheme of things, if EVERYONE saved 3MPG, it would have HUGE implications to our fuel usage.



 
That car likely is front wheel drive I'm thinking, and only has bearings in the rear. If you've had brakes replaced likely they were repacked.
 Get the CV joints and dust boots inspected in the front, as well as struts and rear shocks. Note any fluid leaks. Buy a quality injector cleaner additive and change the air filter every 3 to 4 months, even if it looks clean. Make sure that there aren't any rotten vaccuum hoses. Keep oil and filter changed regularly.
I don't think 26 or 27 mpg with a light foot would be too much to ask.

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