[ ]   [ ]   [ ]                        [ ]      [ ]   [ ]

Radio Paradise NFL Pick'em Group - SeriousLee - Aug 24, 2019 - 2:34pm
 
Baseball, anyone? - SeriousLee - Aug 24, 2019 - 2:32pm
 
What did you have for dinner? - BlueHeronDruid - Aug 24, 2019 - 2:30pm
 
Radio Paradise Comments - BlueHeronDruid - Aug 24, 2019 - 12:37pm
 
RP Windows Desktop Notification Applet - mirceat - Aug 24, 2019 - 10:54am
 
Trump - R_P - Aug 24, 2019 - 10:30am
 
Things that make you go Hmmmm..... - Antigone - Aug 24, 2019 - 9:55am
 
Counting with Pictures - ScottN - Aug 24, 2019 - 9:49am
 
Little known information...maybe even facts - SeriousLee - Aug 24, 2019 - 9:27am
 
The Dragons' Roost - miamizsun - Aug 24, 2019 - 8:15am
 
what happended to the Rock Mix ? - Wim-t - Aug 24, 2019 - 6:30am
 
Adding songs to Favorites without rating them - carlkai - Aug 24, 2019 - 5:30am
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - bunrunner - Aug 24, 2019 - 5:14am
 
What are you listening to now? - westslope - Aug 23, 2019 - 6:23pm
 
Strange signs, marquees, billboards, etc. - SeriousLee - Aug 23, 2019 - 5:47pm
 
Climate Change - R_P - Aug 23, 2019 - 5:30pm
 
List of Feel-Good Movies - SeriousLee - Aug 23, 2019 - 4:26pm
 
DQ (as in 'Daily Quote') - oldviolin - Aug 23, 2019 - 11:55am
 
Freedom of speech? - oldviolin - Aug 23, 2019 - 11:42am
 
the Todd Rundgren topic - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 11:07am
 
Hong Kong - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 10:44am
 
OldSchool 60s-70s - Proclivities - Aug 23, 2019 - 9:29am
 
Things You Thought Today - oldviolin - Aug 23, 2019 - 7:48am
 
Fix My Car - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 7:44am
 
HALF A WORLD - oldviolin - Aug 23, 2019 - 7:43am
 
App is slow in skipping songs and loading playlists - BillG - Aug 23, 2019 - 7:42am
 
TED Talks - Red_Dragon - Aug 23, 2019 - 7:38am
 
Brazil - R_P - Aug 23, 2019 - 7:12am
 
Trump Lies - R_P - Aug 23, 2019 - 6:55am
 
surrealistic views... - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 6:22am
 
New Music - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 6:17am
 
Today in History - Red_Dragon - Aug 23, 2019 - 6:17am
 
rotation - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 4:54am
 
Live Music - sirdroseph - Aug 23, 2019 - 4:48am
 
What's your addiction? - miamizsun - Aug 23, 2019 - 4:26am
 
RP 20th anniversary, Feb 2020 - sirdroseph - Aug 23, 2019 - 4:11am
 
Who is? - sirdroseph - Aug 23, 2019 - 4:08am
 
Unresearched Conspiracy Theories - Steely_D - Aug 22, 2019 - 7:25pm
 
Business as Usual - R_P - Aug 22, 2019 - 7:20pm
 
Fox Spews - R_P - Aug 22, 2019 - 6:59pm
 
Animal Resistance - R_P - Aug 22, 2019 - 6:04pm
 
The All-Things Beatles Forum - kurtster - Aug 22, 2019 - 2:13pm
 
Films you're excited about. - miamizsun - Aug 22, 2019 - 12:51pm
 
What Makes You Laugh? - Steely_D - Aug 22, 2019 - 11:47am
 
Strips, cartoons, illustrations - R_P - Aug 22, 2019 - 11:42am
 
Words that should be put on the substitutes bench for a year - pilgrim - Aug 22, 2019 - 11:33am
 
And the good news is.... - ScottFromWyoming - Aug 22, 2019 - 9:33am
 
The Lost Room - Proclivities - Aug 22, 2019 - 8:53am
 
Happy friendship Day - Proclivities - Aug 22, 2019 - 7:28am
 
Name My Band - oldviolin - Aug 22, 2019 - 6:57am
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - oldviolin - Aug 22, 2019 - 6:51am
 
Most under rated albums ? - sirdroseph - Aug 22, 2019 - 5:51am
 
Just Time Lapse - miamizsun - Aug 22, 2019 - 4:24am
 
Propriety - sirdroseph - Aug 22, 2019 - 2:01am
 
New Zealand - haresfur - Aug 21, 2019 - 8:51pm
 
Best Song Comments. - haresfur - Aug 21, 2019 - 6:48pm
 
Got my Goat - Antigone - Aug 21, 2019 - 6:19pm
 
Mixtape Culture Club - kurtster - Aug 21, 2019 - 4:36pm
 
Canada - westslope - Aug 21, 2019 - 1:45pm
 
Private messages in a public forum - oldviolin - Aug 21, 2019 - 10:28am
 
Cryptic Posts - Leave Them Guessing - oldviolin - Aug 21, 2019 - 10:17am
 
A History of Violence - oldviolin - Aug 21, 2019 - 10:14am
 
True Confessions - oldviolin - Aug 21, 2019 - 8:58am
 
Regarding cats - sunybuny - Aug 21, 2019 - 8:49am
 
Stupid Questions (and Answers) - Proclivities - Aug 21, 2019 - 8:08am
 
BACK TO THE 80's - R_P - Aug 21, 2019 - 7:23am
 
RP App for Android - armando - Aug 21, 2019 - 7:02am
 
YouTube: Music-Videos - sirdroseph - Aug 21, 2019 - 7:01am
 
Syncing streams for multi-room Radio Paradise? - radparadise - Aug 21, 2019 - 6:41am
 
Celebrity Face Recognition - miamizsun - Aug 21, 2019 - 4:52am
 
By jimminy! Cricket! - dxnerd86 - Aug 21, 2019 - 1:44am
 
Israel - westslope - Aug 20, 2019 - 11:11pm
 
stupid (hey it's whatever thread) - ScottFromWyoming - Aug 20, 2019 - 7:10pm
 
Australia has Disappeared - Red_Dragon - Aug 20, 2019 - 5:21pm
 
DXing- long distance radio reception - dxnerd86 - Aug 20, 2019 - 3:27pm
 
Index » Radio Paradise/General » General Discussion » Fix My Car Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 140, 141, 142, 143  Next
Post to this Topic
Rod

Rod Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:59pm

 p4jkafla wrote:


Ahhh...got it.

I was wondering because he seemed to know that he was going to put rotors on before he even took everything apart and looked at it. I just told him what it was going, and he said "sounds like pads and rotors"...
 
If you described a metal on metal sound, kind of a grinding, it's a good bet that the pads have worn through and maybe that's why he's suggesting rotors. But yes, do ask to see proof of that, and maybe get another opinion.

cc_rider

cc_rider Avatar

Location: Bastrop
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:59pm

 p4jkafla wrote:
Question: Do all brake jobs require new rotors? Can't you just put in new brake pads and be done with it? My mechanic is saying that I'll probably need new rotors, and he hasn't even seen the car yet!

 
ALL brake jobs? No. MANY brake jobs? Yes. Depends on the car, driving style, weather conditions, phase of moon, and driver's Zodiac sign.

Seriously, there's no way to know whether it'll need new rotors until you take a look. But you can do that yourself. Look at the brake disc: check for heavy grooves (a little bit is okay), places where the metal looks 'torn' instead of smooth, anything else that doesn't seem right. Feel the outer edge of the disc: if there is a sharp ridge, you may need a new rotor.

Rotors can be, often are, 'faced' on a special lathe to return the braking surface to flat. In the old days, discs and drums had more sacrificial material, but mftrs are reducing weight wherever they can, and brake discs are a great place to start. So many mechanics assume (rightly) that facing the discs is a low-buck stopgap measure, and the discs will likely need replacing before too much longer.

Check out www.rockauto.com for a good selection of auto parts: I've ordered from them before, and they do a good job. They also have a range of parts, from low-buck to chi-chi performance. I prefer to buy my parts and take them to my mechanic, but I'm a nerd and spend time researching the 'best' parts to use: most people are happy with whatever parts the mechanic uses.

If the discs don't look too bad, don't show any serious grooves, gouges, or edge ridge, they can probably be re-used as is. When I have the time, I take the rotors off and sand them with coarse grit sandpaper glued to a board or pad. I sand them back-and-forth, turning the disc a little each time, so you get a cool 'sunburst' sort of pattern on the disc. This probably doesn't really do all that much, but it's easy, cheap, and might help take the 'glaze' off the discs. It's no substitute for facing the rotors, but it won't hurt either.

Upshot: your mechanic may be right about the rotors. If you told him 'my brakes are grinding', he's guessing they're worn down pretty bad, and he's likely right.

Happy Motoring!

c.

Southern_Boy

Southern_Boy Avatar

Location: On my way to the beach
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:59pm

 ditty wrote:


Yep, they are just trying to get you to pay for something you may or may not need.  Don't forget to ask to see the rotors when they take them off and say you need new ones.  Ask about turning them.  That will really throw them off!  {#Hug}

PP - {#Whipit}

 
Easy answer - "Turning them will take them out of manufacturer's specifications. We can't do that. They must be replaced."


ditty

ditty Avatar

Location: centex
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:57pm

 p4jkafla wrote:


Ahhh...got it.

I was wondering because he seemed to know that he was going to put rotors on before he even took everything apart and looked at it. I just told him what it was going, and he said "sounds like pads and rotors"...
 

Yep, they are just trying to get you to pay for something you may or may not need.  Don't forget to ask to see the rotors when they take them off and say you need new ones.  Ask about turning them.  That will really throw them off!  {#Hug}

Last time I had brakes done they turned the rotors and did such a bad, uneven job that I took the car back TWICE and ended up with entire new brake assemblies that I DID NOT PAY FOR.

PP - {#Whipit}


p4jkafla

p4jkafla Avatar

Location: New England, USA
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:54pm

 ditty wrote:


If you've grooved the rotors by waiting too long to have the brakes done (pads gone so the only thing stopping your car is the rotors) then you can either get new rotors or have them "turned."  Turning them means they will smooth out the rotor to remove the grooves so you don't get weird braking. 

I always ask to see any part they tell me needs to be replaced.  If they can't show that the rotor is grooved, or the belt is cracked, or the hose is leaking, then they are attemtpting to fleece you.  They always try that with women.  It always backfires on them with me {#Mrgreen}

 

Ahhh...got it.

I was wondering because he seemed to know that he was going to put rotors on before he even took everything apart and looked at it. I just told him what it was going, and he said "sounds like pads and rotors"...

PoundPuppy

PoundPuppy Avatar

Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:48pm

 ditty wrote:


If you've grooved the rotors by waiting too long to have the brakes done (pads gone so the only thing stopping your car is the rotors) then you can either get new rotors or have them "turned."  Turning them means they will smooth out the rotor to remove the grooves so you don't get weird braking. 

I always ask to see any part they tell me needs to be replaced.  If they can't show that the rotor is grooved, or the belt is cracked, or the hose is leaking, then they are attemtpting to fleece you.  They always try that with women.  It always backfires on them with me {#Mrgreen}

 
I love it when you go all butch on me ... LOL  {#Kiss}

ditty

ditty Avatar

Location: centex
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:46pm

 p4jkafla wrote:
Question: Do all brake jobs require new rotors? Can't you just put in new brake pads and be done with it? My mechanic is saying that I'll probably need new rotors, and he hasn't even seen the car yet!

 

If you've grooved the rotors by waiting too long to have the brakes done (pads gone so the only thing stopping your car is the rotors) then you can either get new rotors or have them "turned."  Turning them means they will smooth out the rotor to remove the grooves so you don't get weird braking. 

I always ask to see any part they tell me needs to be replaced.  If they can't show that the rotor is grooved, or the belt is cracked, or the hose is leaking, then they are attemtpting to fleece you.  They always try that with women.  It always backfires on them with me {#Mrgreen}
cc_rider

cc_rider Avatar

Location: Bastrop
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:40pm

 Alafia wrote:

Check junkyards for  a catalytic converter: you could probably find one for a fraction of the cost.
 
Many junkyards will not sell used catalytic converters. Something about Federal emission-equipment laws. My mechanic buddy and I were just talking about the issue the other day.

c.

p4jkafla

p4jkafla Avatar

Location: New England, USA
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 12:38pm

Question: Do all brake jobs require new rotors? Can't you just put in new brake pads and be done with it? My mechanic is saying that I'll probably need new rotors, and he hasn't even seen the car yet!
rosedraws

rosedraws Avatar

Location: close to the edge
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 11:41am

JrzyTmata wrote:





JrzyTmata

JrzyTmata Avatar



Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 10:11am


pdhski

pdhski Avatar

Location: O-town
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:27am

Alafia wrote:

Check junkyards for a catalytic converter: you could probably find one for a fraction of the cost.

IF you are willing to do the repair yourself.  Some states have laws about what kind of used parts repair shops can or can't use - in NY the repair shops are licensed and cannot use brake parts from junkyards.  But if you do it yourself, hay no problema.

** *** *** **

If it were me, I'd ditch the car if you can get $2500 on trade, and with the $3000 you were going to spend on repairs, thats $5500 down.  Put it towards a new car. With the age and mileage, you're not in a good spot with that car and you could be facing more repairs very soon.

If you go for something like a Nissan Versa 1.8 S w/Auto you could get it for approx $169.16/mo for 60 months with the above figures in play. 

Southern_Boy

Southern_Boy Avatar

Location: On my way to the beach
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:25am

 rosedraws wrote:



But I don't have a repair guy I trust for engine work.

My girlfriend is talking me into finding someone else to do the work for less.

I do love this car...
 
FWIW - I would repair the breaks and replace timing belt. That being said, the timing belt for $600 is outrageous! Catlytic - forget it. Water pump - wait till its leaking on the ground - they all leak when they get old. Tune up - money maker by the dealer. Dealers are paid by repair work. They will always try to up-sell you.

rosedraws

rosedraws Avatar

Location: close to the edge
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:18am

Southern_Boy wrote:

Prices for repairs are HIGH! Where did you go, the dealer?



But I don't have a repair guy I trust for engine work.

My girlfriend is talking me into finding someone else to do the work for less.

I do love this car...

Manbird

Manbird Avatar

Location: Oroville, Ca
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:12am

 rosedraws wrote:
All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)
 
You can get a nice jeep cherokee like mine for about the cost of repairs. Just sayin.
<< src="scripts/tiny_mce/themes/advanced/langs/en.js" type="text/javascript"><>br />
Southern_Boy

Southern_Boy Avatar

Location: On my way to the beach
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:09am

 rosedraws wrote:
All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)

 
Prices for repairs are HIGH! Where did you go, the dealer?

(former member)

(former member) Avatar



Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:09am

 MusicIsMotion wrote:
 
No way.  The repairs you made already are justifiable but sinking that kind of money into it wouldn't be financially wise, unless you just REALLY like the car and you're planning to keep it and drive it.  If you want a new one, prices are crazy low - auto makers need sales badly.  

The new Accords are HAWT!

 
Yeah, & this is a gret time to finance - auto companies are DESPERATE for your new car business.  You might even get X2 trade-in value - make that sales(wo)man SWEAT!

Alafia

Alafia Avatar

Location: the dojo
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 9:01am

 rosedraws wrote:
All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)

 
Check junkyards for  a catalytic converter: you could probably find one for a fraction of the cost.

(former member)

(former member) Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 8:59am

 rosedraws wrote:
All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)
  
No way.  The repairs you made already are justifiable but sinking that kind of money into it wouldn't be financially wise, unless you just REALLY like the car and you're planning to keep it and drive it.  If you want a new one, prices are crazy low - auto makers need sales badly.  

The new Accords are HAWT!


rosedraws

rosedraws Avatar

Location: close to the edge
Gender: Female


Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 8:54am

All right all you car heads:

- 2002 Accord
- 4 door automatic
- 159000 miles
- runs like a dream
- pretty good condition, a few dings on the exterior.

- Just repaired ball joints, bushings and put all new brakes on.

Check Engine light and Brake light came on, so we took it into the shop.

Now it needs:

- New Catalytic Converter ($1600)
- New Rear Brake Drums (we did the front I guess?) ($250)
- And we still need to do the Timing Belt (important precautionary measure) ($600)
- And it appears to need a water pump ($100)

- Will eventually need a tune up and new wires too. ($450)



$3000+?!?!?

Is it worth it??

(Kelly blue book is around $3K for trade in, $5K for private sale.)
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 140, 141, 142, 143  Next