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Posted: Apr 17, 2019 - 4:34am

does the eu/france want to censor internet and/or internet archive content?

say what?

sounds like something russia would do

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Posted: Aug 23, 2018 - 6:14am

licensed speech...

who decides?

we want justice!

She Posted Rap Lyrics to Remember a Dead Teen, So the U.K. Prosecuted Her for Hate Speech

Why all Americans should be thankful for the First Amendment

Prosecutors in Liverpool decided they were unable to charge anybody in the death of Frankie Murphy when the 13-year-old boy was struck and killed by a car while riding his bike back in 2016.

But prosecutors did charge and convict a young woman who posted rap lyrics on Instagram in Murphy's memory, because they included the n-word.

Chelsea Russell, 19, posted lyrics to a song by the Detroit rapper Snap Dogg (no, not Snoop Dogg) on the bio of her Instagram account to pay tribute to Murphy. The song, "I'm Trippin'," released in 2016, is heavy on killing snitches and waving guns around and it has lots of use of the n-word. It's the type of song that people point to when they say they don't like rap music because it's too violent.




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Posted: May 30, 2018 - 1:55pm

How Trump’s Pressure Influenced the NFL to Change Its Anthem Rules (WSJ)
Depositions in Kaepernick’s grievance indicate Donald Trump’s criticism of player protests prompted league to shift stance
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Posted: May 26, 2018 - 12:56pm

The NFL Panders to Trump
By surrendering to the president, the league continues to throw its players under the bus
(...) The phrasing is quite Orwellian: "All team and league personnel on the field shall stand and show respect for the flag and Anthem." This language belies what Goodell declared in a statement announcing the new rules: "It is unfortunate that on-field protests created a false perception among many that thousands of NFL players were unpatriotic. This is not and was never the case." That perception was not a result of the protests; the president and others who deliberately sought to mask authoritarianism with empty performances of allegiance created it. In a Fox News interview on Thursday morning, Trump said, "I don't think people should be staying in locker rooms, but still I think it's good. You have to stand – proudly – for the national anthem or you shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there, maybe you shouldn't be in the country."

And why does the league fall for this? One main concern appears to be the maintenance of the military marketing that has become endemic to every American sporting event. The defense of the pregame (and at times, in-game) pageantry is most understandable within the context of the seemingly irreversible change the country has undergone in the last several years. The Stars and Stripes, already lending its colors to three major-league insignias, has itself become a sports logo for a good reason. Patriotism, or what we too often mistake for it, is now a marketable commodity for teams and leagues. To understand what is happening in the NFL right now, you have to go back to the fear mongering that emerged after September 11th, 2001.

As ESPN journalist and author Howard Bryant notes in his forthcoming book The Heritage, the nexus of the military and law enforcement "has rarely been framed as a political response to perhaps the worst day in modern American history" – yet it is unavoidably political. The sports world, he writes, "embraced jingoism in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks but was unequipped to deal with complexity at home. It was easy to throw the word patriotism around but not quite so easy to tell just who the heroes really were." To boot, there were and still are social penalties assessed for not adhering to the new script. Heaven forbid a fan tries to kneel as a flag is unfurled over the length of a football field, or questions why the anthem is being played before a sporting event at all. (...)

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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 12:44pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
 R_P wrote:
I find that hard to believe, since any brand is sensitive to negative publicity. And nobody has produced quite the negativity (while cloaking themselves in 'patriotism') as Trump and Pence have (they do have somewhat high profiles and a media that reports every single word they say):

Trump turned the debate into a campaign issue , saying the NFL should fire any player who takes a knee during "The Star-Spangled Banner." The NFL hasn't gone that far, but Kaepernick and Reid believe they are being singled out as leaders in the movement.

Both have filed collusion grievances against the NFL .

There was no immediate comment from Trump on the new policy, but Vice President Mike Pence called it "a win for the fans, a win for (Trump), and a win for America." Last season, Pence walked out of game at Indianapolis after some players kneeled during the anthem.

"Americans can once again come together around what unites us — our flag, our military, and our National Anthem. Thank you NFL," Pence tweeted, adding the hashtag "ProudToStand."

 
Again, if it wasn't costing them money. They really don't care.
 
Ultimately the bottom line is always money. But many things can affect it.
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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 12:31pm

 R_P wrote:

I find that hard to believe, since any brand is sensitive to negative publicity. And nobody has produced quite the negativity (while cloaking themselves in 'patriotism') as Trump and Pence have (they do have somewhat high profiles and a media that reports every single word they say):

Trump turned the debate into a campaign issue , saying the NFL should fire any player who takes a knee during "The Star-Spangled Banner." The NFL hasn't gone that far, but Kaepernick and Reid believe they are being singled out as leaders in the movement.

Both have filed collusion grievances against the NFL .

There was no immediate comment from Trump on the new policy, but Vice President Mike Pence called it "a win for the fans, a win for (Trump), and a win for America." Last season, Pence walked out of game at Indianapolis after some players kneeled during the anthem.

"Americans can once again come together around what unites us — our flag, our military, and our National Anthem. Thank you NFL," Pence tweeted, adding the hashtag "ProudToStand."



 




Again, if it wasn't costing them money. They really don't care.
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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 12:21pm

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(...) the NFL does not give a rats ass what Trump or anybody else other than paying customers think. (...)
 
I find that hard to believe, since any brand is sensitive to negative publicity. And nobody has produced quite the negativity (while cloaking themselves in 'patriotism') as Trump and Pence have (they do have somewhat high profiles and a media that reports every single word they say):

Trump turned the debate into a campaign issue , saying the NFL should fire any player who takes a knee during "The Star-Spangled Banner." The NFL hasn't gone that far, but Kaepernick and Reid believe they are being singled out as leaders in the movement.

Both have filed collusion grievances against the NFL .

There was no immediate comment from Trump on the new policy, but Vice President Mike Pence called it "a win for the fans, a win for (Trump), and a win for America." Last season, Pence walked out of game at Indianapolis after some players kneeled during the anthem.

"Americans can once again come together around what unites us — our flag, our military, and our National Anthem. Thank you NFL," Pence tweeted, adding the hashtag "ProudToStand."


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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 12:17pm

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Keep in mind: the fans are not the "paying customers" that the NFL derives the majority its money from.  The NFL receives something like 65% of its income from TV broadcasters, who derive their income from advertisers (though many advertisers and manufacturers do deal directly with the league or with the the teams).  Now that more people can skip the ads via DVR, the cable stations charge for expensive sports bundles in order to pay the NFL.  Ticket sales are a small part of the overall income, but ultimately, whether or not people are actually watching the games, and overall public opinion does determine the income of the league.

 




True, the overriding point is appeasing income sources is all the NFL is concerned with. They are not interested in justice, politics, nationalism, patriotism or any of that only in the context of how it profits them. Same could be said with the close alliance to the military, it is all public relations.
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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 12:08pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
 R_P wrote:

Riiiiiight.

 
I stand by this. Unless Trump is behind the scenes affecting their money in some way, but the NFL does not give a rats ass what Trump or anybody else other than paying customers think. Now he could have an indirect effect on the bottom line if his zealot followers are large enough in number to boycott the NFL or not based upon his opinions, but hard to gauge the data on that. But trust me the NFL only cares about Trump if he affects their bottom line. This is all about money.

 
Keep in mind: the fans are not the "paying customers" that the NFL derives the majority its money from.  The NFL receives something like 65% of its income from TV broadcasters, who derive their income from advertisers (though many advertisers and manufacturers do deal directly with the league or with the the teams).  Now that more people can skip the ads via DVR, the cable stations charge for expensive sports bundles in order to pay the NFL.  Ticket sales are a small part of the overall income, but ultimately, whether or not people are actually watching the games, and overall public opinion does determine the income of the league.
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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 12:06pm

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Ya. I doubt very much the NFL made a decision based on anything Trump may have said or done. But I think it does go beyond just what the paying customer thinks. Public opinion does factor in, I believe, in this case. Especially since it concerns the flag and the anthem.

Just my two cents. Now I need to get back to my rum. {#Cheers}

 




Absolutely that is what I was saying public opinion is dollars and cents.
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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 11:56am

 sirdroseph wrote:
 R_P wrote:

Riiiiiight.

 


I stand by this. Unless Trump is behind the scenes affecting their money in some way, but the NFL does not give a rats ass what Trump or anybody else other than paying customers think. Now he could have an indirect effect on the bottom line if his zealot followers are large enough in number to boycott the NFL or not based upon his opinions, but hard to gauge the data on that. But trust me the NFL only cares about Trump if he affects their bottom line. This is all about money.

 
Ya. I doubt very much the NFL made a decision based on anything Trump may have said or done. But I think it does go beyond just what the paying customer thinks. Public opinion does factor in, I believe, in this case. Especially since it concerns the flag and the anthem.

Just my two cents. Now I need to get back to my rum. {#Cheers}
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Posted: May 25, 2018 - 11:47am

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Riiiiiight.

 




I stand by this. Unless Trump is behind the scenes affecting their money in some way, but the NFL does not give a rats ass what Trump or anybody else other than paying customers think. Now he could have an indirect effect on the bottom line if his zealot followers are large enough in number to boycott the NFL or not based upon his opinions, but hard to gauge the data on that. But trust me the NFL only cares about Trump if he affects their bottom line. This is all about money.
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