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samiyam

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 6:41pm

 cc_rider wrote:
Indeed. It is a good thing my current (and planning to be the last) love interest both love garlic, onions, and jalapenos. But be warned: if you did the cooking, that is, you washed/seeded/chopped the jalapenos/serranos/habaneros/Guatemalan Death Peppers, you must be VERY CAREFUL where your fingers go the rest of the evening...

No, I am NOT going to tell 'the rest of the story'.

 
We all have our own versions of that story... mine involves Serrano peppers and a very, very, very, very, very long shower I took in my clothes at a friend's house while his wife kept inquiring through the door if I was alright.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 6:37pm

 cc_rider wrote:
Indeed. It is a good thing my current (and planning to be the last) love interest both love garlic, onions, and jalapenos. But be warned: if you did the cooking, that is, you washed/seeded/chopped the jalapenos/serranos/habaneros/Guatemalan Death Peppers, you must be VERY CAREFUL where your fingers go the rest of the evening...

No, I am NOT going to tell 'the rest of the story'.

 
LMAO.  I may know the rest of the story already.

cc_rider

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 6:32pm

 CafeRacer wrote:

LOL.  I thought my wife and I were the only ones to make sure we ate garlic, onions or jalapenos together!


  Indeed. It is a good thing my current (and planning to be the last) love interest both love garlic, onions, and jalapenos. But be warned: if you did the cooking, that is, you washed/seeded/chopped the jalapenos/serranos/habaneros/Guatemalan Death Peppers, you must be VERY CAREFUL where your fingers go the rest of the evening...

No, I am NOT going to tell 'the rest of the story'.


CafeRacer

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 6:16pm

 islander wrote:

Just be sure you both eat them. And get the ones with garlic *and* jalapeno.
 
LOL.  I thought my wife and I were the only ones to make sure we ate garlic, onions or jalapenos together!



islander

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 5:59pm

 triskele wrote:
they give you really bad breath.....
but garlic stuffed olives make a very healthy snack!

 
Just be sure you both eat them. And get the ones with garlic *and* jalapeno.

triskele

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 3:23pm

they give you really bad breath.....
but garlic stuffed olives make a very healthy snack!


cc_rider

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:46am

 rosedraws wrote:

Might be better to just link to this much info... you can't "reply" for some reason.

Anyway,  looks like Red Cell Apheresis is a separate procedure from Platelet and/or Plasma (which I still can't tell whether it's the same thing...)
  No, it's pretty much the same deal. I didn't try to read the whole post, but it's basically the procedure I listed. Plasma and platelets are not the same thing: plasma is basically the 'carrier' for the blood: red blood cells are too 'thick' to be transported without a lot of liquid (plasma) to thin it out. Platelets are basically the clotting agents in blood: people like hemophiliacs need platelets to help their blood clot, but healthy people generally can use LESS platelets, particularly if they're at risk for heart disease and the like. Giving blood, or plasma, or platelets, is the 'mechanical' equivalent of taking that baby aspirin every morning: it's a simple thing to reduce the thickness of the blood, which can help with blood pressure and other cardio issues.

The actual amount of material removed from the blood varies: with plasma they apparently take a good amount, but with platelets, you lose only a small amount of blood volume.

I'll stick with giving whole blood, they can use it however they want. Last time I donated, they said one pint helps AT LEAST two people, so the math works out okay for me. And mine is by far the most common blood type (O+), so I'm pretty much assured it's gonna get used.


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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:28am

 hippiechick wrote:
What is Red Cell Apheresis?
 
Might be better to just link to this much info... you can't "reply" for some reason.

Anyway,  looks like Red Cell Apheresis is a separate procedure from Platelet and/or Plasma (which I still can't tell whether it's the same thing...)

cc_rider

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:26am

 dionysius wrote:

Hey, C! Didn't you and the girlfriend donate plasma during Batfest? I seem to remember the two of you staggering out of the trailer or something. And I was going to buy y'all a drink, too.
 
No, we donated whole blood. We were staggering from the HEAT. Now where's that drink?

hippiechick

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:25am

 brandog wrote:
I donate plasma often basically the process goes like this:

1.  About a pint of blood is drawn.
2.  The plasma is spun out.
3.  The red blood cells are returned.

The process is repeated until (in my case) 880 ml of plasma has been harvested.

 
My husband received 45 pints of plasma through plasma pheresis when he had Guillen-Barre syndrome from West Nile virus. He would not be healthy today without this treatment. Thank you to all who selflessly donate blood products to help others.

{#Cheers}

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:22am

I donate plasma often; basically, the process goes like this:

1.  About a pint of blood is drawn.
2.  The plasma is spun out.
3.  The red blood cells are returned.

The process is repeated until (in my case) 880 ml of plasma has been harvested - the amount of plasma taken is a mathematical function of body weight.

I like donating plasma - it helps me lose weight (my body has to work to make new plasma), it helps other people.

duchamp

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:21am

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hippiechick

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:15am

 rosedraws wrote:
 cc_rider wrote:

I've never given plasma, so I can't say. And different places use different techniques for platelets. But the basic procedure goes something like this:
- Blood is drawn. Say a pint, maybe two, I don't know. While you're still hooked up:
- Blood is centrifuged to extract the platelets. Additional liquid is added to the blood to improve the process, which also cools the blood. This may take 15 minutes (?)
- Your filtered blood is pumped back into you. This is pretty much the unpleasant part, since the blood is cool. I got pretty bad chills, but apparently that's not unusual. I felt like I was freaking out pretty bad, but the folks running the place didn't seem to think my experience was out of the ordinary.


Same procedure as plasma.  Maybe an interchangeable term?
 

What is Apheresis?

http://www.heartlandbc.org/edu_progs.html

rosedraws

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:12am

 cc_rider wrote:

I've never given plasma, so I can't say. And different places use different techniques for platelets. But the basic procedure goes something like this:
- Blood is drawn. Say a pint, maybe two, I don't know. While you're still hooked up:
- Blood is centrifuged to extract the platelets. Additional liquid is added to the blood to improve the process, which also cools the blood. This may take 15 minutes (?)
- Your filtered blood is pumped back into you. This is pretty much the unpleasant part, since the blood is cool. I got pretty bad chills, but apparently that's not unusual. I felt like I was freaking out pretty bad, but the folks running the place didn't seem to think my experience was out of the ordinary.


Same procedure as plasma.  Maybe an interchangeable term?

dionysius

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:08am

 cc_rider wrote:

I've never given plasma, so I can't say. And different places use different techniques for platelets. But the basic procedure goes something like this:
- Blood is drawn. Say a pint, maybe two, I don't know. While you're still hooked up:
- Blood is centrifuged to extract the platelets. Additional liquid is added to the blood to improve the process, which also cools the blood. This may take 15 minutes (?)
- Your filtered blood is pumped back into you. This is pretty much the unpleasant part, since the blood is cool. I got pretty bad chills, but apparently that's not unusual. I felt like I was freaking out pretty bad, but the folks running the place didn't seem to think my experience was out of the ordinary.

Some places put a line in each arm, some just use one line. I recall the whole thing taking about an hour, but I definitely did not feel too terrific afterwards. I would not plan anything too strenuous for the rest of the day.

Since I've become a total wuss about such things, just writing it made me queasy. But I've had trouble giving blood before too: I'm that guy who says he's all tough and fine, then gets woozy and close to passing out. If you have no problem giving blood, which years ago I didn't, you will be just fine.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, just the opposite: it's a life-saving gift. I just don't want you to go in thinking it'll be like a simple blood donation, 'cause it definitely ain't that. AND I highly recommend taking a healthy (safe) dose of Xanax or Valium or something about half-an-hour before giving: your doctor should be happy to provide a pill for the occasion.

Keep us posted, and THANK YOU for donating: it may be unpleasant, but it is NOTHING compared to what those folks who need platelets go through.

Peace,

c.

 
Hey, C! Didn't you and the girlfriend donate plasma during Batfest? I seem to remember the two of you staggering out of the trailer or something. And I was going to buy y'all a drink, too.

cc_rider

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Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 9:06am

 rosedraws wrote:

Is giving platelets different than giving plasma?  I used to give plasma in college... $15 per drain.

My vivid memory is seeing a yellowish-clear goop in the tube coming from my arm... cholesterol??  No one seemed alarmed.  And, back then, I was probably eating 3-4 eggs a day for breakfast. 
 
I've never given plasma, so I can't say. And different places use different techniques for platelets. But the basic procedure goes something like this:
- Blood is drawn. Say a pint, maybe two, I don't know. While you're still hooked up:
- Blood is centrifuged to extract the platelets. Additional liquid is added to the blood to improve the process, which also cools the blood. This may take 15 minutes (?)
- Your filtered blood is pumped back into you. This is pretty much the unpleasant part, since the blood is cool. I got pretty bad chills, but apparently that's not unusual. I felt like I was freaking out pretty bad, but the folks running the place didn't seem to think my experience was out of the ordinary.

Some places put a line in each arm, some just use one line. I recall the whole thing taking about an hour, but I definitely did not feel too terrific afterwards. I would not plan anything too strenuous for the rest of the day.

Since I've become a total wuss about such things, just writing it made me queasy. But I've had trouble giving blood before too: I'm that guy who says he's all tough and fine, then gets woozy and close to passing out. If you have no problem giving blood, which years ago I didn't, you will be just fine.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, just the opposite: it's a life-saving gift. I just don't want you to go in thinking it'll be like a simple blood donation, 'cause it definitely ain't that. AND I highly recommend taking a healthy (safe) dose of Xanax or Valium or something about half-an-hour before giving: your doctor should be happy to provide a pill for the occasion.

Keep us posted, and THANK YOU for donating: it may be unpleasant, but it is NOTHING compared to what those folks who need platelets go through.

Peace,

c.


rosedraws

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 8:40am

 cc_rider wrote:
It is an unpleasant procedure. Not saying you shouldn't do it, just be prepared for it to be much different than merely giving blood. I gave, years ago, and decided I'd rather just give whole pints instead. Speaking of which I need to go for another draining: I gave at BatFest this summer, so I'm prolly past due.
 
Is giving platelets different than giving plasma?  I used to give plasma in college... $15 per drain.

My vivid memory is seeing a yellowish-clear goop in the tube coming from my arm... cholesterol??  No one seemed alarmed.  And, back then, I was probably eating 3-4 eggs a day for breakfast. 

BillJ

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 8:34am

 cc_rider wrote:
It is an unpleasant procedure. Not saying you shouldn't do it, just be prepared for it to be much different than merely giving blood. I gave, years ago, and decided I'd rather just give whole pints instead. Speaking of which I need to go for another draining: I gave at BatFest this summer, so I'm prolly past due.

 

There was a person giving platelets while I was there, and it didn't seem any different from what I was doing, just a lot longer. I guess I'll find out.
cc_rider

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 8:05am

 BillJ wrote:
No I haven't, but I think that I am going to become a regular. Semi-regular at least.
  It is an unpleasant procedure. Not saying you shouldn't do it, just be prepared for it to be much different than merely giving blood. I gave, years ago, and decided I'd rather just give whole pints instead. Speaking of which I need to go for another draining: I gave at BatFest this summer, so I'm prolly past due.


BillJ

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 7:57am

 cc_rider wrote:

Have you ever given platelets before?
 

No I haven't, but I think that I am going to become a regular. Semi-regular at least.
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