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Red_Dragon

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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 10:27am

The Supreme Court on abortion: The Supreme Court says the leaked draft is real; Chief Justice Roberts orders an investigation
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 10:26am

 black321 wrote:
so, why was this decision left to the courts in the first place?

Marbury v. Madison
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 9:38am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

So when Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and Barrett all said they considered Roe v. Wade was "settled law," they were lying under oath.



I'm pretty sure we're all three steps ahead of Susan Collins on this one:

Susan Collins, just realizing that she got played TWICE:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2...

"Senator Susan Collins, a centrist from Maine, also cautioned in a statement that the decision of each justice isn't final until the Supreme Court officially announces its opinion. “If this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office." "
black321

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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 8:36am

so, why was this decision left to the courts in the first place? 

Red_Dragon

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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 8:05am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

So when Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and Barrett all said they considered Roe v. Wade was "settled law," they were lying under oath.



Ayup.
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 7:55am

So when Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and Barrett all said they considered Roe v. Wade was "settled law," they were lying under oath.
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 5:26am

 miamizsun wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
Your state and mine won't.
probably more pro-choice people (like myself) here than we think
like same sex marriage, this is also a losing issue for the religious right
unfortunately there are some on the left or far left that have bumbled the issues here
florida had a substantial majority of reg'd dem voters
(a couple of elections ago, about a 300,000 spread i think)
recently that has reversed to an even footing
what causes immigrants that are clearly lefty liberals to support liberal policy, but vote for gov on the right?
life experience?
 
It is just s a matter of getting the people out to vote.{#Stupid}
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 5:25am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Your state and mine won't.


probably more pro-choice people (like myself) here than we think
like same sex marriage, this is also a losing issue for the religious right
unfortunately there are some on the left or far left that have bumbled the issues here
florida had a substantial majority of reg'd dem voters
(a couple of elections ago, about a 300,000 spread i think)
recently that has reversed to an even footing
what causes immigrants that are clearly lefty liberals to support liberal policy, but vote for gov on the right?
life experience?


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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 5:19am

 Bill_J wrote:
It's just a draft at the moment, but Moscow  Mitch "Satan" McConnell seems to have succeeded in establishing minority rule in our country.  I don't see that being reversed in my lifetime. 

We'll see what happens in November.  7 out of 10 Americans say they don't want Roe V Wade overturned.   The entire country knows it was McConnell playing to win and ignoring anything that resembles integrity.  Either the country will react to a purely political court, or it won't.  The Republicans have been amazing recently at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 5:04am

 miamizsun wrote:


states will squash it


Your state and mine won't.
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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 4:59am

 Bill_J wrote:


It's just a draft at the moment, but Moscow  Mitch "Satan" McConnell seems to have succeeded in establishing minority rule in our country.  I don't see that being reversed in my lifetime. 


states will squash it
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Posted: May 2, 2022 - 7:19pm

 Manbird wrote:

It's just a draft at the moment, but Moscow  Mitch "Satan" McConnell seems to have succeeded in establishing minority rule in our country.  I don't see that being reversed in my lifetime. 
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Posted: May 2, 2022 - 6:57pm

Supreme Court Has Voted to Overturn Abortion Rights


RIP Roe V Wade

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Posted: Dec 13, 2021 - 8:30am

 westslope wrote:

Moreover, we have had these 'nature versus nurture' debates for decades.  

Clearly, there is much more that goes into a human being than just flesh but the anti-abortion activists do not seem to care.

In the meantime, 9% of US citizens are not covered by health insurance....




zactly 
But the Tyranny of States won't stop. Anyone in Texas can open carry a loaded weapon, without a permit, license or training, but your neighbor's wife's behavior is YOUR business.
And current SCOTUS borne of devious McConnell power grabs is allowing it.

I like Gavin Newsome's idea of forcing SCOTUS' hand regarding States placing obstacles to Constitutional Rights.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2021 - 2:56pm

 Isabeau wrote:

Separation of Church and State means YOUR BELIEFS don't Legislate.

F.Y.I. Hebrew Bible (the old Testament) proclaims life begins at "First Breath." Even the ancients knew pregnancy wasn't a guaranteed result. Childbirth itself could kill both mother and child, and often did.


Moreover, we have had these 'nature versus nurture' debates for decades.  

Clearly, there is much more that goes into a human being than just flesh but the anti-abortion activists do not seem to care.

In the meantime, 9% of US citizens are not covered by health insurance....

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Posted: Dec 10, 2021 - 12:15pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Translation: I'm not the judge who gets his house bombed by pro-life zealots. Ya'll on ya own, I got a lunch date...
Isabeau

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Posted: Dec 10, 2021 - 12:14pm

Separation of Church and State means YOUR BELIEFS don't Legislate.

F.Y.I. Hebrew Bible (the old Testament) proclaims life begins at "First Breath." Even the ancients knew pregnancy wasn't a guaranteed result. Childbirth itself could kill both mother and child, and often did.



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Posted: Dec 10, 2021 - 8:38am

Court won’t stop Texas abortion ban, but lets clinics sue
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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 7:31am

 kurtster wrote:

I read a definition of the term before my first post.

My point is that everything is subject to review by SCOTUS should a case reach this level.  Perhaps if better laws were crafted we wouldn't be having these kinds of problems.

I truly believe bad laws are written with the hopes of reaching SCOTUS to have enough of whatever is found valid to get the overall intent of the law eventually put into use.  Judicial activism.  If you have enough of those kinds of justices, the bad law stands.


And yes it is late.  G'nite.


so close to that epiphany
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Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 9:24pm

 steeler wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

It must be a unanimous decision or you consider it wrong. So if the vote was 8 / 1 or 7 / 2 or 5 / 4 for B v BOE it would have been the wrong decision ? IIRC the final vote for R v W was 7 / 2.  Not a unanimous decision.

The point of stare decisis is to guard against the Court overturning precedents just because the makeup of the Court has changed. The standard is not that a Justice believes it was wrongly decided and would not have voted with the majority if he or she had been on the court at the time. Rather, it is that the precedent is “clearly” or “egregiously” wrong, which is what is being discussed now regarding the Mississippi case.  Edit: not the best explanation, but it is late . . .
 
I read a definition of the term before my first post.

My point is that everything is subject to review by SCOTUS should a case reach this level.  Perhaps if better laws were crafted we wouldn't be having these kinds of problems.

I truly believe bad laws are written with the hopes of reaching SCOTUS to have enough of whatever is found valid to get the overall intent of the law eventually put into use.  Judicial activism.  If you have enough of those kinds of justices, the bad law stands.

And yes it is late.  G'nite.
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