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It's going to be a long time gone
And it appears to be a long
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
It's a long, long, long, long time
Before the dawn
Turn any corner
Hear what the people say
You know that something is going on around here
It surely, surely, surely won't stand the light of day
And it appears to be a long
Appers to be a long
Appears to be a long
SUch a long, long time
Before the dawn
Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness
You got to speak your mind
If you dare
Don't, no don't try to get yourself elected
If you do you had better cut your hair
And it appears to be a long
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
Such a long, long, long, long time
Before the dawn
It's been a long time coming
It's going to be a long time gone
But you know, the darkest hour
Is always just before the dawn
And it appears to be a long
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
Such a long, long, long, long time
Before the dawn
Gone is the ability to speak anything that does not comply with truth as defined by Facebook, Twitter, Google et al, and Amazon. As your "un-truth" words are erased, you may also lose your income and your career. It is a "long time coming " to speak out and demand support today for our bill of rights as they did then. These are the rights that we fought for, and must fight for once again, against those that wish to destroy them.
From the lyrics:
... You got to speak your mind
... If you dare"
kingart wrote:
... DARE to speak the truth. It WILL cost you however. But to do less will lead to the total loss of your right to speak at all.
Support all those that today are being censored, their speech "erased" from social media along with their income, losing their jobs and ostracized for merely speaking publicly. Call what they say "truth or fiction", ANY free speech today will extract a huge costs on the speakers. Support our bill of rights and fight those that wish to destroy it.
Very well said. Thanks for posting.
Gone is the ability to speak anything that does not comply with truth as defined by Facebook, Twitter, Google et al, and Amazon. As your "un-truth" words are erased, you may also lose your income and your career. It is a "long time coming " to speak out and demand support today for our bill of rights as they did then. These are the rights that we fought for, and must fight for once again, against those that wish to destroy them.
From the lyrics:
... You got to speak your mind
... If you dare"
kingart wrote:
... DARE to speak the truth. It WILL cost you however. But to do less will lead to the total loss of your right to speak at all.
Support all those that today are being censored, their speech "erased" from social media along with their income, losing their jobs and ostracized for merely speaking publicly. Call what they say "truth or fiction", ANY free speech today will extract a huge costs on the speakers. Support our bill of rights and fight those that wish to destroy it.
What earth shattering groups are you listening to?
If you do you had better cut your hair.

33 likes and 1 dislike. I guess it must have been Trump himself. Who else would dislike it?
Your time would be better spent working on producing something better.
One would think that if anything it is no less brilliant because it remains as relevant and insightful as ever. Maybe more so, because it proves the acuity of some/much of the seminal music of the '60s and '70s. Our so-called leaders were wearing their asses for hats then -- and what has changed? Except for being bigger asses and having smaller hats.
Couldn't wholeheartedly disagree more.
If you do you had better cut your hair.

Good find!
Just quibbling here, but I believe it is actually the darkest
Hmm, it depends on the phase of the moon:
"...During the two weeks following a new moon, it can be seen after sunset – but not before sunrise. At such time, it is darker before dawn simply because the moon cannot be seen. After the middle of the lunar month, the moon will also be seen in the sky before sunrise, so that the hours just after sunset will be the darkest."
Crosby's first solo album "If Only I Could Remember My Name" is not only a fantastic album but is also a sonic marvel.
He still plays a sweet guitar.
I highly recommend his autobiography, also called Long Time Gone.
He still plays a sweet guitar.
If you do you had better cut your hair.

Usually one would say I am a little bit too young for this kind of music, not too much though, but its sooo great, it creates all these feelings music should create in my opinion (at least for me). So, I completely agree, it has passed the test of time ....
Not at all, I think you'd be the perfect opinion on that. Someone who may not have 'been there' at the time. If it still sounds good to new ears, well, that says it all :)
Usually one would say I am a little bit too young for this kind of music, not too much though, but its sooo great, it creates all these feelings music should create in my opinion (at least for me). So, I completely agree, it has passed the test of time ....

Who ever did what ever to the sound - thanks!
In the middle the song sound clicked and became much clearer, crisper.
Somewhere a switched was, well, switched.
Nice.
Well, see, you didn't listen to the song, dude. You were supposed to, like, NOT cut your hair, man.
Well, here's one that'll make you say "WTF?":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PamO6obWcQk

Stingray wrote:
Too young and too dumb (to know)!
There's a pretty good cover version of this one by Galliano. Maybe even better than the original...
I just youtubed this song... I politely disagree.
Surely better than too short and too young
There are other CSN songs I like better, but there is no denying that this is one of those songs that define an era.

There's a pretty good cover version of this one by Galliano. Maybe even better than the original...
Correct. Should be:

Just to repeat, y'all, while you argue about this song, the 60s and the difficulties of social change from below: this song is NOT on "Deja Vu", it's on "Crosby, Stills, & Nash."
Mr. Bill Goldsmith, could you correct the error on this RP page?
I've forgotten which RPer commented that many CSN songs haven't dated well without Neil Young. I gotta agree. CSN had great harmonies but many of their songs seem unstructured and too unfocused. I remember trying hard to like "CSN" as a teen in the late 70s and getting impatient with this song and "Pre-Road Downs" and...
Obviously there are huge exceptions: "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" is still and always will be incredible. Just my two-penny take. When CSN get it right, with or without Y, they hit it out of the park. I always felt that CSNY was more driving and memorable. Loved "Deja Vu."
1/30/14 edit:
That_SOB wrote:
"Regardless of how all this came out , it was the energy and the dream that may never be reproduced again anywhere. If you haven't just said NO to your draft board your unlikley to understand."
My friends and I--again, teens in the 70s--burned with envy at the people who'd experienced the 60s full-bore. There was this hope that the 80s would bring back the grassroots liberal politics of the 60s (bitter, wild laughter in my head while recalling this naïveté, our American version of a Prague Spring). That got squelched pretty quickly when we realized that Ron Reagan was going to be elected and that he and his handlers like Mike Deaver were the MASTERS of TV spin.
I still believe in this country and Bill Clinton's campaign slogan that "there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be fixed by what is right with America." But I believe popular protest and even reasonable civil disobedience are necessary and welcome means of bringing about change. As imperfect as CSN's music could be, it inspired people to stand up and become involved in America's politics despite an often unresponsive and occasionally hostile federal government.
Live with Tom Jones.
That_SOB wrote:
Time to retire this one Bill
I believe your mind needs corrective lenses. CS&N with Y on occasion, were the foundation of a generation.
Dylan and the Stones were there, as were Hendrix and the Beatles. There is nothing on this earth that can bring
back the beliefs, experiments, confrontations, the challenge to change. Regardless of how all this came out , it
was the energy and the dream that may never be reproduced again anywhere. If you haven't just said NO to your
draft board your unlikley to understand.
Exactly. Well put.
Yes, I think that, too.

For some reason for a short moment I thought about Cathedral, but this is Crosby, Still, Nash and Young, isn't it?
That_SOB wrote:
Time to retire this one Bill
I believe your mind needs corrective lenses. CS&N with Y on occasion, were the foundation of a generation.
Dylan and the Stones were there, as were Hendrix and the Beatles. There is nothing on this earth that can bring
back the beliefs, experiments, confrontations, the challenge to change. Regardless of how all this came out , it
was the energy and the dream that may never be reproduced again anywhere. If you haven't just said NO to your
draft board your unlikley to understand.
Time to retire this one Bill
Myopic at best; tragically passive saturation from life in sound bytes at worst.
Time to retire this one Bill
I believe your mind needs corrective lenses. CS&N with Y on occasion, were the foundation of a generation. Dylan and the Stones were there, as were Hendrix and the Beatles. There is nothing on this earth that can bring back the beliefs, experiments, confrontations, the challenge to change. Regardless of how all this came out , it was the energy and the dream that may never be reproduced again anywhere. If you haven't just said NO to your draft board your unlikley to understand.
So, from your words which have been emboldened: this is dated, and/or could be said to have not "aged well". To me, that doesn't mean it should be "retired", however.
Time to retire this one Bill
I believe your mind needs corrective lenses. CS&N with Y on occasion, were the foundation of a generation.
Dylan and the Stones were there, as were Hendrix and the Beatles. There is nothing on this earth that can bring
back the beliefs, experiments, confrontations, the challenge to change. Regardless of how all this came out , it
was the energy and the dream that may never be reproduced again anywhere. If you haven't just said NO to your
draft board your unlikley to understand.
Misterfixit.......as a member of the in-between generation of the 60's (i was 16 when Nixon was elected), i have to agree with you whole-heartedly!!!
simply put, you had to be there to appreciate the kind of folk music that CS&N (and later Y) and others were producing. Woodstock defined my adolescence and my generation. it's like us saying the Great Depression was no big deal, but to our parents and grandparents it defined them. 'nuff said
Time to retire this one Bill
d-don wrote:
Couldn't disagree with this more.
Nicely coated with patina. Now how about that?
Time to retire this one Bill
Couldn't disagree with this more.
I disagree. This music is timeless, and this album is one of the greatest albums of all time.
And that's why we listen to RP. LOVE this song—it takes me back to a time that was so much less complicated (for me, anyway)! And right, it's not from the album shown, as I remember (I have it in the basement, but too tired to go dig it out).
I am already 60 and if I looked anything like David's picture below, I think I would euthanize myself!

Ah but I don't your ride has matched his pace! We all age and some slower than others but really euthanize yourself because of your looks. Are you serious, eh?
David Crosby is going to be 68 this month (Aug. 14). Let's see what you look like when you're in your 60's-70's.
I am already 60 and if I looked anything like David's picture below, I think I would euthanize myself!

I do belive this was before Mr. Young was part of this group...
Correct. Should be:

I do belive this was before Mr. Young was part of this group...
Time to retire this one Bill
I disagree. This music is timeless, and this album is one of the greatest albums of all time.
It was "keen" in the 70's
By the time the 80's came around, it start getting lame, fur sur
In the 90's only a remake by a grunge band would work
During the 00's it was like , so yesterday
Today, it's kind of boring
I have to say I agree here. Though I do like most CSN tunes...this one hasn't aged too well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kg0v0Er8Ak


I disagree. First, you had to have lived in those troubled times; second, you must listen to the words and understand that they are NOT about what may be obvious; to be trite, there is a deeper meaning to this song than can be fathomed on the first or even the tenth listening. This song and the singing poetry goes deep into the collective consciences of the America people of that time. The late 1960's were a terrible time and a wonderful time at the same time.The insane war in Vietnam and the breath-taking open-mindedness and hope of most of the youth of that day. Well, I guess you just had to be there. I know, I sure was.
Misterfixit.......as a member of the in-between generation of the 60's (i was 16 when Nixon was elected), i have to agree with you whole-heartedly!!!
simply put, you had to be there to appreciate the kind of folk music that CS&N (and later Y) and others were producing. Woodstock defined my adolescence and my generation. it's like us saying the Great Depression was no big deal, but to our parents and grandparents it defined them. 'nuff said
Don't look now, but the hippies are back. This time round we know how the movie ends, at least.
Just quibbling here, but I believe it is actually the darkest
Continuing the quibble, the darkest hour is going to be when where you are on earth is facing directly away from the sun. That occurs from around 11 pm to 1 or 2 am, depending on daylight savings time and where you are in your time zone. From that point on, there will be increasing light in the east as the earth rotates. This is assuming that by "dawn", you mean sunrise.
I disagree. First, you had to have lived in those troubled times; second, you must listen to the words and understand that they are NOT about what may be obvious; to be trite, there is a deeper meaning to this song than can be fathomed on the first or even the tenth listening. This song and the singing poetry goes deep into the collective consciences of the America people of that time. The late 1960's were a terrible time and a wonderful time at the same time.The insane war in Vietnam and the breath-taking open-mindedness and hope of most of the youth of that day. Well, I guess you just had to be there. I know, I sure was.
Someone Has Blundered: "Long Time Gone" was on the album "Crosby, Stills and Nash", not "Deja Vu". I really prefer the latter.
"CSN" was a great album, but I never liked this song: it's very loosely structured and the lyrics don't seem to be about much of anything. Neil Young made CSN a better group with more focused lyrics when he joined in.




Zobie poster boy. David looked a little healthier. That being said, I still love their music.
I'll always be a fan of the 60's-70's CSNY.

Hey, not sayin' I disagreed with your statement; just that I didn't say it.

Zobie poster boy. David looked a little healthier. That being said, I still love their music.
I'll always be a fan of the 60's-70's CSNY.

Don't be afraid of the dark...
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Not sure how these replies to replies to replies get mixed up, but for the record I posted the photos but didn't make any subsequent comments, particularly the one in bold green type, above (from Rooney). Cheers.
- OTB
On_The_Beach wrote:
Even I, on my worst days possible don't look that bad. Gazooks and crimeney!!!!!!!! And holy sh*t bricks, Batman.
Don't be afraid of the dark...
On_The_Beach wrote:
Now and then.




Luckily for us "non-celebrities", we get to age in private.
Even I, on my worst days possible don't look that bad. Gazooks and crimeney!!!!!!!! And holy sh*t bricks, Batman.
Are you serious? You really don't have a clue, are you from another cou....... oh wait a minute, sorry, I thought you might have lived through it and really did have some experience, but you don't and probably never will.
I'm thinking the same thing trying to buy the darn song...
Never heared this version before, you guys are wright!!

I'm thinking the same thing trying to buy the darn song...

This is weird but good! My dad still has this LP and when i was a little kid he often listened to it. Remembering as a child i never understood why he'd wanna listen to that music, especially with an old-fashioned cover like this one.
Now this song comes on, i don't know it but i like it, so i check the playlist and see it's CS&N... Funny how memories catch up on you...
And yeah, i love it now!! 8
It appears to be a long
It appears to be a long
Time, such a long, long time
Before the dawn.
I still go "Oh" every time I hear the first notes of this song.
Just quibbling here, but I believe it is actually the darkest
Now and then.




Luckily for us "non-celebrities", we get to age in private.
Best Wishes for the New Year,
Dustin
PS I bought one of your t-shirts today, my second!
"Magnificent!"

I cant listen this without seeing that brilliant split screen footage from the Woodstock film in my minds eye.
Gawd I'd love to find that turn up on YouTube.
Oh, so, vaguely...............sure would have been righteous!
Hey LF, I got yo' back man........
To look at them now, they're like the poster children for the ravages of drugs + booze + time.
David Crosby is going to be 68 this month (Aug. 14). Let's see what you look like when you're in your 60's-70's.
And I am sick of the shaved-head, iPod/cell phone addicted set like you that make too many stereotypes and assumptions about the 60's, or "hippies", or any of the music from that era. How's that for a stereotype?
Very well said. Thanks for posting.
Look after the king of R n R please