Conor Oberst — Sausalito
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Hair blowing in the hot wind
Time hanging from a clothespin
There's no sorrow that the sun's not gonna heal
I smell the leather of your new car
Drive through the desert after nightfall
Sleep on the shoulder, keep the stars all to ourselves
The kind of love that makes my back hurt
Wearin' nothing but a T-shirt
She's turning over on a mattress made of air
I close my eyes and see a staircase
Leading upwards into blank space
All of creation makes a sound too soft to hear
So I remain between her legs
Sheltered from all my fears
While bikers glide by highway shrines
Where pilgrims disappear
I know that trouble's been your good friend
Kept you company on the weekends
Kept you company even once your mind was made
You said, it's over and it's finished
Now a headache's all you're left with
We're no different, I've got debts I'd like to pay
We should move to Sausalito
Living's easy on a house boat
Let the ocean rock us back and forth to sleep
And in the morning when the sunrise
Look in the water, see the blue sky
As if heaven has been laid there at our feet
So we remain between these waves
Sheltered for all our years
While bikers glide by highway shrines
Where pilgrims disappear
Where time takes icebergs
Where fields burn westward
Where pilgrims disappear
Time hanging from a clothespin
There's no sorrow that the sun's not gonna heal
I smell the leather of your new car
Drive through the desert after nightfall
Sleep on the shoulder, keep the stars all to ourselves
The kind of love that makes my back hurt
Wearin' nothing but a T-shirt
She's turning over on a mattress made of air
I close my eyes and see a staircase
Leading upwards into blank space
All of creation makes a sound too soft to hear
So I remain between her legs
Sheltered from all my fears
While bikers glide by highway shrines
Where pilgrims disappear
I know that trouble's been your good friend
Kept you company on the weekends
Kept you company even once your mind was made
You said, it's over and it's finished
Now a headache's all you're left with
We're no different, I've got debts I'd like to pay
We should move to Sausalito
Living's easy on a house boat
Let the ocean rock us back and forth to sleep
And in the morning when the sunrise
Look in the water, see the blue sky
As if heaven has been laid there at our feet
So we remain between these waves
Sheltered for all our years
While bikers glide by highway shrines
Where pilgrims disappear
Where time takes icebergs
Where fields burn westward
Where pilgrims disappear
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I live just a few miles from Sausalito. California that is.
What a loser.
stegokitty wrote:
I'm digging the connection you made. I have a Group on Facebook dedicated to finding such connections between songs, called The Chain.
Just out of curiosity, you don't have a connection with Daniel Amos and Klaymen do you?
Sorry, never been in that hood. BTW one of my favorite past times in the mid 90's was trying to get Klayman to his happy ending.
I'm digging the connection you made. I have a Group on Facebook dedicated to finding such connections between songs, called The Chain.
Just out of curiosity, you don't have a connection with Daniel Amos and Klaymen do you?
Sorry, never been in that hood. BTW one of my favorite past times in the mid 90's was trying to get Klayman to his happy ending.
TerryS wrote:
Especially appropriate for me since the only Gaye Delorme tracks I have are from an ancient CD (now mp3) called Acme Sausage Company.
I'm digging the connection you made. I have a Group on Facebook dedicated to finding such connections between songs, called The Chain.
Just out of curiosity, you don't have a connection with Daniel Amos and Klaymen do you?
Especially appropriate for me since the only Gaye Delorme tracks I have are from an ancient CD (now mp3) called Acme Sausage Company.
Sausage/Sausalito? Oh never mind, I'll be leaving now.
I'm digging the connection you made. I have a Group on Facebook dedicated to finding such connections between songs, called The Chain.
Just out of curiosity, you don't have a connection with Daniel Amos and Klaymen do you?
amoreena wrote:
A segue from Gay Delorme that made me laugh out loud. Thanks, Bill. You make music better. Very much appreciated, in case no one told you that today.
Especially appropriate for me since the only Gaye Delorme tracks I have are from an ancient CD (now mp3) called Acme Sausage Company.
Sausage/Sausalito? Oh never mind, I'll be leaving now.
lemmoth wrote:
And further - waying in from the east coast, as one who spent much time at CBs, Max's Kansas City , the Mudd Club, Hurrahs' and other places in the "70s — here's to the bands that never made it to rock and roll radio, never mind the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
* Wayne County and the Electric Chairs
* Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers
* Richard Hell and the Voidoids
* Lance Loud and the Mumps
* Mickey Zone and the Fast
* Human Sexual Response (from Boston)
* The Dead Boys (from Cleveland)
and many more
Good days, also Teenage Jesus & The Jerks, The Slits, and Suicide.
And further - waying in from the east coast, as one who spent much time at CBs, Max's Kansas City , the Mudd Club, Hurrahs' and other places in the "70s — here's to the bands that never made it to rock and roll radio, never mind the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
* Wayne County and the Electric Chairs
* Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers
* Richard Hell and the Voidoids
* Lance Loud and the Mumps
* Mickey Zone and the Fast
* Human Sexual Response (from Boston)
* The Dead Boys (from Cleveland)
and many more
Good days, also Teenage Jesus & The Jerks, The Slits, and Suicide.
bb_matt wrote:
Yep, Tom Petty sounding, but not as good. Lyrics a little raw.
I hear tom petty crossed with john fogerty in this quite likeable dude who may grow on me. Sasha2001 wrote:
I totally get where you're coming from. Some dude started talking smack about Afro-Celtic infused Spacesynth and I had to straight up go bonkers on that chump.
I've always found a nice jab to the kidney does the trick.
I totally get where you're coming from. Some dude started talking smack about Afro-Celtic infused Spacesynth and I had to straight up go bonkers on that chump.
I've always found a nice jab to the kidney does the trick.
Mweh. Too repetitive and the singing is monotone.
Yep, Tom Petty sounding, but not as good. Lyrics a little raw.
This is Conor? Really? Could have sworn it was Tom Petty...smart move to follow up this song with actual Tom Petty, RP. Good ear. :)
MiracleDrug wrote:
NO this sounds like the next step in the Roger McGuinn-Tom Perry evolutionary scale...
Ever heard of Steve Wynn & Dream Syndicate? You might REALLY like it but it never happens on RP...a truly great mystery you might follow.Conor, say thanks to Steve Wynn (of Dream Syndicate) & leave it at that. He never made any money as as singer/songwriter either, band or solo but like yourself, an important artist in his (your) own right. He's obviously your 1980/19090 hero in my opinion. Good stuff...
Sausalito, represent!
"Sausalito hotel room ,eating salty candy, I love her but she loves you, eating salty candy —Leon Leon Russell
A segue from Gay Delorme that made me laugh out loud. Thanks, Bill. You make music better. Very much appreciated, in case no one told you that today.
KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
Me agree.
I'm not going to start a war because people hate my favorite music.
They're just morons.
I totally get where you're coming from. Some dude started talking smack about Afro-Celtic infused Spacesynth and I had to straight up go bonkers on that chump.
Me agree.
I'm not going to start a war because people hate my favorite music.
They're just morons.
I totally get where you're coming from. Some dude started talking smack about Afro-Celtic infused Spacesynth and I had to straight up go bonkers on that chump.
I like this. Great sound.
sirdroseph wrote:
He was standing up for free speech and against hypocrisy; not commenting on musical opinions. Therefore, yes, it is ok and I agree with him.
BTW, I love alt-country and this song, but have no problem when people talk shit about it. Hey, it is an opinion, no biggie.
Me agree.
I'm not going to start a war because people hate my favorite music.
They're just morons.
He was standing up for free speech and against hypocrisy; not commenting on musical opinions. Therefore, yes, it is ok and I agree with him.
BTW, I love alt-country and this song, but have no problem when people talk shit about it. Hey, it is an opinion, no biggie.
Me agree.
I'm not going to start a war because people hate my favorite music.
They're just morons.
MiracleDrug wrote:
It's a good thing.
NO this sounds like the next step in the Roger McGuinn-Tom Perry evolutionary scale...
It's a good thing.
I liked this song...partly because it is a cool subject....and liked him..but every other song he put out after sounded exactly the same and he now has no interest for me.....but what is wrong with roger mgguinn....although he is no gram parsons...he had some good songs...and did you mean tom petty??
NO this sounds like the next step in the Roger McGuinn-Tom Perry evolutionary scale...
Definitely get the Cracker resemblance on this - but that's a good thing.
7 => 8
7 => 8
h8rhater wrote:
H8rhater never told you to f*ck off, Fred. He did not use profanity as you did either. Nor did he troll the music as you did.
With a name like H8rhater... of course it's mostly flames. Those flames are directed at music haters (i.e. crybabies who can't just wait for the next song without spewing unnecessary bile in a song's thread) not the music itself.
Also, we're not on a pirate ship so you can drop the "matey". Arrrrggg!!!
This song goes from 9 to 10 with your impetus.
Hey Bill, give us more Oberst, Bright Eyes, Mystic Valley Band, and Monsters of Folk please.
He did refer to himself in the third person though, which I find obnoxious. Similarly, I never could stand Auntie Vickie telling me in the first person plural that "We are not amused".
H8rhater never told you to f*ck off, Fred. He did not use profanity as you did either. Nor did he troll the music as you did.
With a name like H8rhater... of course it's mostly flames. Those flames are directed at music haters (i.e. crybabies who can't just wait for the next song without spewing unnecessary bile in a song's thread) not the music itself.
Also, we're not on a pirate ship so you can drop the "matey". Arrrrggg!!!
This song goes from 9 to 10 with your impetus.
Hey Bill, give us more Oberst, Bright Eyes, Mystic Valley Band, and Monsters of Folk please.
He did refer to himself in the third person though, which I find obnoxious. Similarly, I never could stand Auntie Vickie telling me in the first person plural that "We are not amused".
fredriley wrote:
And where you do you get off telling other listeners to f*ck off? Do you own the station? No you don't, troll. How can you write that "RP is for everyone" (which is true) then tell anyone you don't like to f*ck off? Can you not see the contradiction, or are you too self-absorbed in your own righteousness for that? For a hater hater, you post almost exclusively flames and are the most consistent hater on this board. Look at yourself, matey.
H8rhater never told you to f*ck off, Fred. He did not use profanity as you did either. Nor did he troll the music as you did.
With a name like H8rhater... of course it's mostly flames. Those flames are directed at music haters (i.e. crybabies who can't just wait for the next song without spewing unnecessary bile in a song's thread) not the music itself.
Also, we're not on a pirate ship so you can drop the "matey". Arrrrggg!!!
This song goes from 9 to 10 with your impetus.
Hey Bill, give us more Oberst, Bright Eyes, Mystic Valley Band, and Monsters of Folk please.
And where you do you get off telling other listeners to f*ck off? Do you own the station? No you don't, troll. How can you write that "RP is for everyone" (which is true) then tell anyone you don't like to f*ck off? Can you not see the contradiction, or are you too self-absorbed in your own righteousness for that? For a hater hater, you post almost exclusively flames and are the most consistent hater on this board. Look at yourself, matey.
H8rhater never told you to f*ck off, Fred. He did not use profanity as you did either. Nor did he troll the music as you did.
With a name like H8rhater... of course it's mostly flames. Those flames are directed at music haters (i.e. crybabies who can't just wait for the next song without spewing unnecessary bile in a song's thread) not the music itself.
Also, we're not on a pirate ship so you can drop the "matey". Arrrrggg!!!
This song goes from 9 to 10 with your impetus.
Hey Bill, give us more Oberst, Bright Eyes, Mystic Valley Band, and Monsters of Folk please.
Jelani wrote:
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking!
I think this has a Cracker-esque kind of sound to it.
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking!
You can so perfectly do a traditional Arab Dabke dance to this song. :)
Stingray wrote:
tzzzz...!!!!
Don't taze me bro!
tzzzz...!!!!
Don't taze me bro!
Bumping this from 7 to 8. I like it a little more each time I hear it.
sirdroseph wrote:
In general I'm not in favour of h8rhater's tactics, but sometimes I think he says what many others are thinking, and often his insults are well-deserved, IMO. That said, when music commentary degenerates into a verbal pissing contest, it all becomes rather pointless.
He was standing up for free speech and against hypocrisy; not commenting on musical opinions. Therefore, yes, it is ok and I agree with him.
BTW, I love alt-country and this song, but have no problem when people talk shit about it. Hey, it is an opinion, no biggie.
BTW, I love alt-country and this song, but have no problem when people talk shit about it. Hey, it is an opinion, no biggie.
In general I'm not in favour of h8rhater's tactics, but sometimes I think he says what many others are thinking, and often his insults are well-deserved, IMO. That said, when music commentary degenerates into a verbal pissing contest, it all becomes rather pointless.
On_The_Beach wrote:
But apparently it's OK for you to tell him to f*ck off?
He was standing up for free speech and against hypocrisy; not commenting on musical opinions. Therefore, yes, it is ok and I agree with him.
BTW, I love alt-country and this song, but have no problem when people talk shit about it. Hey, it is an opinion, no biggie.
But apparently it's OK for you to tell him to f*ck off?
He was standing up for free speech and against hypocrisy; not commenting on musical opinions. Therefore, yes, it is ok and I agree with him.
BTW, I love alt-country and this song, but have no problem when people talk shit about it. Hey, it is an opinion, no biggie.
fredriley wrote:
But apparently it's OK for you to tell him to f*ck off?
And where you do you get off telling other listeners to f*ck off? Do you own the station? No you don't, troll. How can you write that "RP is for everyone" (which is true) then tell anyone you don't like to f*ck off? Can you not see the contradiction, or are you too self-absorbed in your own righteousness for that? For a hater hater, you post almost exclusively flames and are the most consistent hater on this board. Look at yourself, matey.
But apparently it's OK for you to tell him to f*ck off?
h8rhater wrote:
And where you do you get off telling other listeners to f*ck off? Do you own the station? No you don't, troll. How can you write that "RP is for everyone" (which is true) then tell anyone you don't like to f*ck off? Can you not see the contradiction, or are you too self-absorbed in your own righteousness for that? For a hater hater, you post almost exclusively flames and are the most consistent hater on this board. Look at yourself, matey.
If alt-country (or whatever you want to call it) isn't your bag, just don't comment. RP is for everyone. Connor Oberst is one of the best new voices in music so get used to him or find a genre-specific station to do your listening.
And where you do you get off telling other listeners to f*ck off? Do you own the station? No you don't, troll. How can you write that "RP is for everyone" (which is true) then tell anyone you don't like to f*ck off? Can you not see the contradiction, or are you too self-absorbed in your own righteousness for that? For a hater hater, you post almost exclusively flames and are the most consistent hater on this board. Look at yourself, matey.
Giselle62 wrote:
I will second SmackDaddy's statement and clarify even further for history's sake::
CBGB's scene with Patti Smith, Television, Blondie, Talking Heads and Ramones came before English punk.
Read "Please Kill Me" and that new one about the modern history of New York music...I'll get back to you.
those other guys are right about it being Johnny Rotten who walked into the store with the Pink Floyd shirt crossed out.
(I was a punk, but rode in on the LA 1980 hardcore wave (chronicled in the first "Decline of" movie) before becoming kind of a psychedelic punk toward the end.)
And further - waying in from the east coast, as one who spent much time at CBs, Max's Kansas City , the Mudd Club, Hurrahs' and other places in the "70s — here's to the bands that never made it to rock and roll radio, never mind the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
* Wayne County and the Electric Chairs
* Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers
* Richard Hell and the Voidoids
* Lance Loud and the Mumps
* Mickey Zone and the Fast
* Human Sexual Response (from Boston)
* The Dead Boys (from Cleveland)
and many more
I will second SmackDaddy's statement and clarify even further for history's sake::
CBGB's scene with Patti Smith, Television, Blondie, Talking Heads and Ramones came before English punk.
Read "Please Kill Me" and that new one about the modern history of New York music...I'll get back to you.
those other guys are right about it being Johnny Rotten who walked into the store with the Pink Floyd shirt crossed out.
(I was a punk, but rode in on the LA 1980 hardcore wave (chronicled in the first "Decline of" movie) before becoming kind of a psychedelic punk toward the end.)
And further - waying in from the east coast, as one who spent much time at CBs, Max's Kansas City , the Mudd Club, Hurrahs' and other places in the "70s — here's to the bands that never made it to rock and roll radio, never mind the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
* Wayne County and the Electric Chairs
* Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers
* Richard Hell and the Voidoids
* Lance Loud and the Mumps
* Mickey Zone and the Fast
* Human Sexual Response (from Boston)
* The Dead Boys (from Cleveland)
and many more
SmackDaddy wrote:
So wrong. The subversion began at least as far back the Velvet Underground, but punk really began to take shape with the Stooges, MC5, and the Ramones. All of which predate the Pistols. And there were numerous punk bands before the Pistols in England too.
I will second SmackDaddy's statement and clarify even further for history's sake::
CBGB's scene with Patti Smith, Television, Blondie, Talking Heads and Ramones came before English punk.
Read "Please Kill Me" and that new one about the modern history of New York music...I'll get back to you.
those other guys are right about it being Johnny Rotten who walked into the store with the Pink Floyd shirt crossed out.
(I was a punk, but rode in on the LA 1980 hardcore wave (chronicled in the first "Decline of" movie) before becoming kind of a psychedelic punk toward the end.)
So wrong. The subversion began at least as far back the Velvet Underground, but punk really began to take shape with the Stooges, MC5, and the Ramones. All of which predate the Pistols. And there were numerous punk bands before the Pistols in England too.
I will second SmackDaddy's statement and clarify even further for history's sake::
CBGB's scene with Patti Smith, Television, Blondie, Talking Heads and Ramones came before English punk.
Read "Please Kill Me" and that new one about the modern history of New York music...I'll get back to you.
those other guys are right about it being Johnny Rotten who walked into the store with the Pink Floyd shirt crossed out.
(I was a punk, but rode in on the LA 1980 hardcore wave (chronicled in the first "Decline of" movie) before becoming kind of a psychedelic punk toward the end.)
h8rhater wrote:
If alt-country (or whatever you want to call it) isn't your bag, just don't comment. RP is for everyone. Connor Oberst is one of the best new voices in music so get used to him or find a genre-specific station to do your listening.
I love me some alt-country, but I hate Oberst's voice. It's almost like nails on a chalkboard for me.
If alt-country (or whatever you want to call it) isn't your bag, just don't comment. RP is for everyone. Connor Oberst is one of the best new voices in music so get used to him or find a genre-specific station to do your listening.
I love me some alt-country, but I hate Oberst's voice. It's almost like nails on a chalkboard for me.
Proclivities wrote:
Tom Petty's sound is very far from original or innovative.
I always thought of Tom Petty as sort of a parody of Roger Mcguinn though I do like some of his stuff..
Tom Petty's sound is very far from original or innovative.
I always thought of Tom Petty as sort of a parody of Roger Mcguinn though I do like some of his stuff..
Proclivities wrote:
Tom Petty's sound is very far from original or innovative.
tzzzz...!!!!
Tom Petty's sound is very far from original or innovative.
tzzzz...!!!!
spigolli wrote:
or retch as the case may be...
Take Tom Petty, Paul Simon, the Dead, add some twang and toss them in the BlendTec and savor the blend.
or retch as the case may be...
I think this has a Cracker-esque kind of sound to it.
superfido wrote:
Tom Petty's sound is very far from original or innovative. It's pretty standard, roots-based stuff as is much of Oberst's work and that of countless other artists.
Think he ever heard of Tom Petty? 
Tom Petty's sound is very far from original or innovative. It's pretty standard, roots-based stuff as is much of Oberst's work and that of countless other artists.
Take Tom Petty, Paul Simon, the Dead, add some twang and toss them in the BlendTec and savor the blend.
Cynaera wrote:
I have to say that the Columbia River gorge is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. It's too bad the hoity-toity crowd had to ruin your experience. My brother and I have devised a way to keep the riff-raff out - we just live like bums, exercise our "squatter's rights," and drive the high-priced snoots out of the neighborhood. Sometimes, one must fight for one's paradise.
I don't know who I'm quoting, but: "Call someplace paradise and you can kiss it goodbye."
I have to say that the Columbia River gorge is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. It's too bad the hoity-toity crowd had to ruin your experience. My brother and I have devised a way to keep the riff-raff out - we just live like bums, exercise our "squatter's rights," and drive the high-priced snoots out of the neighborhood. Sometimes, one must fight for one's paradise.
I don't know who I'm quoting, but: "Call someplace paradise and you can kiss it goodbye."
Businessgypsy wrote:
I have to say that the Columbia River gorge is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. It's too bad the hoity-toity crowd had to ruin your experience. My brother and I have devised a way to keep the riff-raff out - we just live like bums, exercise our "squatter's rights," and drive the high-priced snoots out of the neighborhood. Sometimes, one must fight for one's paradise.
I lived on a houseboat moorage on the Columbia river in Portland for a couple of decades. It was easy - until it became trendy, and all the nurses/artists/musicians/river rats/outlaw chefs were replaced by lawyers and doctors. The first thing they did was proclaim "this place is great! Now here's a few new rules and fees". Needless to say, the fun-kai factor took a nosedive, expenses quadrupled and all the fun just floated away.
I have to say that the Columbia River gorge is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. It's too bad the hoity-toity crowd had to ruin your experience. My brother and I have devised a way to keep the riff-raff out - we just live like bums, exercise our "squatter's rights," and drive the high-priced snoots out of the neighborhood. Sometimes, one must fight for one's paradise.
Businessgypsy wrote:
People need to learn to leave well enough alone. Sad...
I lived on a houseboat moorage on the Columbia river in Portland for a couple of decades. It was easy - until it became trendy, and all the nurses/artists/musicians/river rats/outlaw chefs were replaced by lawyers and doctors. The first thing they did was proclaim "this place is great! Now here's a few new rules and fees". Needless to say, the fun-kai factor took a nosedive, expenses quadrupled and all the fun just floated away.
People need to learn to leave well enough alone. Sad...
Manbird wrote:
I had a client who lived on a houseboat in Sausalito and a friend of mine was the mailman there for years.
I lived on a houseboat moorage on the Columbia river in Portland for a couple of decades. It was easy - until it became trendy, and all the nurses/artists/musicians/river rats/outlaw chefs were replaced by lawyers and doctors. The first thing they did was proclaim "this place is great! Now here's a few new rules and fees". Needless to say, the fun-kai factor took a nosedive, expenses quadrupled and all the fun just floated away. Manbird wrote:
Was the houseboat friend's name Simon..or Simon?
I had a client who lived on a houseboat in Sausalito and a friend of mine was the mailman there for years.
Was the houseboat friend's name Simon..or Simon?
Despite a lot of comments down here, i'm liking this one!
7
7
I had a client who lived on a houseboat in Sausalito and a friend of mine was the mailman there for years.
i hear paul simon. what's that song again from graceland, with the kind of roll-y drums? there's prolly a name for the rhythm. dunno. but it's not enough to carry this song, in sausalito or anywhere else i can think of.
peter_james_bond wrote:
Sic 'em Peter!
RadioDoc wrote:
Yeah. The music you hear all over the air waves. Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that.
Because we all know the easiest path to musical fame and fortune is through alt-country. Sic 'em Peter!
HeartlandJon wrote:
Omaha boy, best known for his band Bright Eyes, also responsible for the rise of Saddle Creek Records and the strong indie music scene flourishing in Omaha. Even though Saddle Creek built a very nice live music venue, he returns home and plays small bars often.
I was about to comment, "this sounds like the Bright Eyes singer," but now I know why!
Omaha boy, best known for his band Bright Eyes, also responsible for the rise of Saddle Creek Records and the strong indie music scene flourishing in Omaha. Even though Saddle Creek built a very nice live music venue, he returns home and plays small bars often.
I was about to comment, "this sounds like the Bright Eyes singer," but now I know why!
DaveInVA wrote:
definite tom petty thang goin on...
I thought it sounded like Tom Petty trying to sound country-fied
definite tom petty thang goin on...
I thought it sounded like Tom Petty trying to sound country-fied
RadioDoc wrote:
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that. Stave wrote:
They must have taken one of those mail-order "You Could Be The Next Jay Farrar" courses advertised in the back pages of Guitar World.
Tools. You laugh at your own jokes even when you're alone don't you?
If alt-country (or whatever you want to call it) isn't your bag, just don't comment. RP is for everyone. Connor Oberst is one of the best new voices in music so get used to him or find a genre-specific station to do your listening.
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that. Stave wrote:
They must have taken one of those mail-order "You Could Be The Next Jay Farrar" courses advertised in the back pages of Guitar World.
Tools. You laugh at your own jokes even when you're alone don't you?
If alt-country (or whatever you want to call it) isn't your bag, just don't comment. RP is for everyone. Connor Oberst is one of the best new voices in music so get used to him or find a genre-specific station to do your listening.
RadioDoc wrote:
Stave wrote:
Because we all know the easiest path to musical fame and fortune is through alt-country.
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that.
Stave wrote:
They must have taken one of those mail-order "You Could Be The Next Jay Farrar" courses advertised in the back pages of Guitar World.
Because we all know the easiest path to musical fame and fortune is through alt-country.
RadioDoc wrote:
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that.
They must have taken one of those mail-order "You Could Be The Next Jay Farrar" courses advertised in the back pages of Guitar World. It's the musical equivalent of those matchbook covers where you draw the cartoon turtle and send it in to that art instruction school to see if you've got what it takes to be a Real Artist.
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that.
They must have taken one of those mail-order "You Could Be The Next Jay Farrar" courses advertised in the back pages of Guitar World. It's the musical equivalent of those matchbook covers where you draw the cartoon turtle and send it in to that art instruction school to see if you've got what it takes to be a Real Artist.
Really good songwriter and he has a good band, but man that guy can't sing and not in a cool way!
Lyndra_Ski wrote:
Well actually Sid V wasn't even in the original Sex Pistols line-up, was he? He was thrown in later. I think it was Mclaren and Lydon that formed the original Pistols.
Wait, people, punk wasn't even invented until 1975, when Sid Vicious (not his real name of course) walked into a clothing store on Kings Road owned by Malcom McCleran (spelling is wrong,) wearing a Pink Floyed t-shirt, with the name crossed out with a black magic marker. They got to talking, Malcom and the pre-Sid Vicious, and agreed corporate rock sucked and something must be done about it so they formed the Sex Pistols.
Well actually Sid V wasn't even in the original Sex Pistols line-up, was he? He was thrown in later. I think it was Mclaren and Lydon that formed the original Pistols.
...i'm not sure conor oberst realises the obsolescence of his song's sentiment - sausalito's long-since overrun with wannabe-hippie sellouts, gentrification at its most grotesque...
...cue up the last resort...
...cue up the last resort...
Anybody else here T-Rex in this? The guitar punctuation especially ...
floydoftherocks wrote:
...we should move to Sausalito
Livin's easy on a houseboat.
wow, what a classic line . . . .
...we should move to Sausalito
Livin's easy on a houseboat.
wow, what a classic line . . . .
Lyndra_Ski wrote:
So wrong. The subversion began at least as far back the Velvet Underground, but punk really began to take shape with the Stooges, MC5, and the Ramones. All of which predate the Pistols. And there were numerous punk bands before the Pistols in England too.
Wait, people, punk wasn't even invented until 1975, when Sid Vicious (not his real name of course) walked into a clothing store on Kings Road owned by Malcom McCleran (spelling is wrong,) wearing a Pink Floyed t-shirt, with the name crossed out with a black magic marker. They got to talking, Malcom and the pre-Sid Vicious, and agreed corporate rock sucked and something must be done about it so they formed the Sex Pistols.
So wrong. The subversion began at least as far back the Velvet Underground, but punk really began to take shape with the Stooges, MC5, and the Ramones. All of which predate the Pistols. And there were numerous punk bands before the Pistols in England too.
that's cheap happysound. disguised a little.
OMG!!! A HAMMOCK!!!! Me likey....
FWIW—I can't find anything objectionable with his singing. Dylan once said that he was just as good a singer as Caruso. Oh, YEAH?! "I hit all the notes." Can't argue with that. So does Conor. Props for the guts to put his excellent songwriting out on his own terms. Chill, folks. It's just rock'n'roll. 
I'm really enjoying his solo stuff! 
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I thought about taking a run at it but decided to listen to Ramones instead.
Probably the best reaction, I agree.
I thought about taking a run at it but decided to listen to Ramones instead.
Probably the best reaction, I agree.
holborne wrote:
That little precis is wrong on so many levels it's hard to know where to begin, really.
I thought about taking a run at it but decided to listen to Ramones instead.
That little precis is wrong on so many levels it's hard to know where to begin, really.
I thought about taking a run at it but decided to listen to Ramones instead.
I think you might mean Johnny Rotten.
Lyndra_Ski wrote:
Lyndra_Ski wrote:
Wait, people, punk wasn't even invented until 1975, when Sid Vicious (not his real name of course) walked into a clothing store on Kings Road owned by Malcom McCleran (spelling is wrong,) wearing a Pink Floyed t-shirt, with the name crossed out with a black magic marker. They got to talking, Malcom and the pre-Sid Vicious, and agreed corporate rock sucked and something must be done about it so they formed the Sex Pistols.
OldFrenchie wrote:
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
OldFrenchie wrote:
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
ziggytrix wrote:
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that.
I don't know if this is how he sings naturally or if it is affected, but it gets on my nerves.
wrangler wrote:
wrangler wrote:
i am fully unable to get pass this guy's warbly annoying voice. too bad, cause i hear he has a way with words.
Most of the alt-country wannabes and mimics try to sound like that.
...we should move to Sausalito
Livin's easy on a houseboat.
wrangler wrote:
I'm told Conor Oberst's idea is to lead the listener away from how pretty the voice is to an emphasis on the lyrics. Polar opposites, as an example, would be Josh Groban and Bob Dylan.
i am fully unable to get pass this guy's warbly annoying voice. too bad, cause i hear he has a way with words.
I'm told Conor Oberst's idea is to lead the listener away from how pretty the voice is to an emphasis on the lyrics. Polar opposites, as an example, would be Josh Groban and Bob Dylan.
Pharlap wrote:
Hahaha. Exactly.
docked 1.5 points (by listeners) because he had the nerve to be born in the 80's.
Hahaha. Exactly.
Guess you guys don't like Dylan either.
ziggytrix wrote:
ziggytrix wrote:
I don't know if this is how he sings naturally or if it is affected, but it gets on my nerves.
wrangler wrote:
wrangler wrote:
i am fully unable to get pass this guy's warbly annoying voice. too bad, cause i hear he has a way with words.
docked 1.5 points (by listeners) because he had the nerve to be born in the 80's.
Lyndra_Ski wrote:
That little precis is wrong on so many levels it's hard to know where to begin, really.
Wait, people, punk wasn't even invented until 1975, when Sid Vicious (not his real name of course) walked into a clothing store on Kings Road owned by Malcom McCleran (spelling is wrong,) wearing a Pink Floyed t-shirt, with the name crossed out with a black magic marker. They got to talking, Malcom and the pre-Sid Vicious, and agreed corporate rock sucked and something must be done about it so they formed the Sex Pistols.
That little precis is wrong on so many levels it's hard to know where to begin, really.
You have GOT TO MOVE YOUR BODY to this. The lyrical Visual in this always grips me hard! Love it!
tikitender wrote:
Omaha boy, best known for his band Bright Eyes, also responsible for the rise of Saddle Creek Records and the strong indie music scene flourishing in Omaha. Even though Saddle Creek built a very nice live music venue, he returns home and plays small bars often.
hey i dig this! who is this dude?
Omaha boy, best known for his band Bright Eyes, also responsible for the rise of Saddle Creek Records and the strong indie music scene flourishing in Omaha. Even though Saddle Creek built a very nice live music venue, he returns home and plays small bars often.
I don't know if this is how he sings naturally or if it is affected, but it gets on my nerves.
wrangler wrote:
wrangler wrote:
i am fully unable to get pass this guy's warbly annoying voice. too bad, cause i hear he has a way with words.
I love Bright Eyes, but this is just so...bootie shaking, I think is the phrase I'm looking for. Nice solo work!
tikitender wrote:
tiki, it's Conor Oberst (i think)
hey i dig this! who is this dude?
tiki, it's Conor Oberst (i think)
Wait, people, punk wasn't even invented until 1975, when Sid Vicious (not his real name of course) walked into a clothing store on Kings Road owned by Malcom McCleran (spelling is wrong,) wearing a Pink Floyed t-shirt, with the name crossed out with a black magic marker. They got to talking, Malcom and the pre-Sid Vicious, and agreed corporate rock sucked and something must be done about it so they formed the Sex Pistols.
OldFrenchie wrote:
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
OldFrenchie wrote:
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
Saw Oberst with the Mystic Valley Band at Austin City Limit Festival in September. Outstanding show, brought the place down.
superfido wrote:
oh my yes! they say that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery...
Think he ever heard of Tom Petty?
oh my yes! they say that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery...
So this is Conor Oberst? Wow - who knew...
superfido wrote:
I was thinking Jeff Tweedy of Wilco
Think he ever heard of Tom Petty?
I was thinking Jeff Tweedy of Wilco
Leslie wrote:
It's Conor Oberst
I have no idea who the guy is. I rated it on my reaction to the song.
It's Conor Oberst
tikitender wrote:
Conor Oberst
hey i dig this! who is this dude?
Conor Oberst
This is great. Conor Oberst's lyrics work in any genre.
The lyrics of this song JUST ROCK
...kind of love that makes my back hurt...
WOOOT
it's just all so ROCKIN GREAT
...kind of love that makes my back hurt...
WOOOT
it's just all so ROCKIN GREAT
Think he ever heard of Tom Petty?
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This thread reminds me of being on vacation in Northern Lower Michigan in the pre-FM AOR days with my portable cassette player as the only source of mobile tunes. Back home in the Detroit area, it was common to find alkaline batteries just about anywhere. Up there, they had no clue at the time and the only alkies we could find were slumped on stools at the U & I Lounge. Fast forward to the era of MP3 players and the (non) availability of lithium batteries....
The more things change....
OldFrenchie wrote:
Got me.
Consider though: While punk may have been dead in 73, Canada lags behind the rest of the industrialized world in many ways, and Winnipeg would be considered backwoods by Canadian standards. We got a GAP at our mall only last year, and teens still order acid wash jean jackets out of the Sears catalogue. So, it follows then that punk might not have been dead here, even though the rest of the world considered it so.
Holy Crap! They have computers in Winnipeg now. And internet, no less. Welcome to the revolution.
Just kidding. Sort of.
Got me.Consider though: While punk may have been dead in 73, Canada lags behind the rest of the industrialized world in many ways, and Winnipeg would be considered backwoods by Canadian standards. We got a GAP at our mall only last year, and teens still order acid wash jean jackets out of the Sears catalogue. So, it follows then that punk might not have been dead here, even though the rest of the world considered it so.
Holy Crap! They have computers in Winnipeg now. And internet, no less. Welcome to the revolution.
Just kidding. Sort of.
KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
Oh no. That sounds like a Neko slam.
Could be referring to a lot of people, like that Rachel Yamagata chick, too. (For the record, I LURVE Neko, and not because she's hot, though she is.)
Oh no. That sounds like a Neko slam.
Could be referring to a lot of people, like that Rachel Yamagata chick, too. (For the record, I LURVE Neko, and not because she's hot, though she is.)
hey i dig this! who is this dude?
I like the imagery. "Keeping the stars all to ourselves"
RadioDoc wrote:
Oh no. That sounds like a Neko slam.
holborne wrote:
Oh, come on, guys. Rate the song that you actually hear, not the person singing it. It doesn't make you a big rebel just because you see Conor Oberst and go, "Ew, give him a low rating!"
I Agree. That goes for rating really bad performances a 10 just because it's some chick you think is hot...Oh no. That sounds like a Neko slam.
lmic wrote:
Yah, no kiddin', some of the priciest "real estate" in the Bay Area, lmic! This one is $500 PER NIGHT.
from https://www.vrbo.com/184236
Master Suite with large whirlpool bath and deck on the water, plus 2 guest bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, fully equipped office, computer with broadband/WiFi, music studio, 3 separate decks and your own dock with 14' motorboat and 2 kayaks. Why pay $500 a night for a single hotel room when you can have all this for only $495 per night?
I doubt you could afford a houseboat in Sausalito, Conor!
Yah, no kiddin', some of the priciest "real estate" in the Bay Area, lmic! This one is $500 PER NIGHT.
from https://www.vrbo.com/184236
Master Suite with large whirlpool bath and deck on the water, plus 2 guest bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, fully equipped office, computer with broadband/WiFi, music studio, 3 separate decks and your own dock with 14' motorboat and 2 kayaks. Why pay $500 a night for a single hotel room when you can have all this for only $495 per night?
i am fully unable to get pass this guy's warbly annoying voice. too bad, cause i hear he has a way with words.
i dig this guy! especially when he sings with Emmy Lou
YEE HAW!
Bright Eyes! Dig this guy, he has a way with words.
I doubt you could afford a houseboat in Sausalito, Conor!
Hey! Greetings from Sausalito!
(I don't have a houseboat ... but my father's has a great house in the Sausalito hills.)
(I don't have a houseboat ... but my father's has a great house in the Sausalito hills.)
ch83575 wrote:
I dated a girl in High School with pink hair. One day she stuck a safety-pin through her ear without even warning me or anything... kinda freaked me out. Its 11 years later and we are married now. She let that hole grow closed, and her hair is just brown now but she still freaks me out from time to time.
I myself had blue hair once, but I was in college, and that's not as daring as pink anyway.
I dated a girl in High School with pink hair. One day she stuck a safety-pin through her ear without even warning me or anything... kinda freaked me out. Its 11 years later and we are married now. She let that hole grow closed, and her hair is just brown now but she still freaks me out from time to time.
I myself had blue hair once, but I was in college, and that's not as daring as pink anyway.
holborne wrote:
Uh...yeah. If you were actually born in 1973, you were hardly punk before it was cool, unless your parents gave you a mohawk and pierced your little nose with a clothespin while you were in diapers.
I dated a girl in High School with pink hair. One day she stuck a safety-pin through her ear without even warning me or anything... kinda freaked me out. Its 11 years later and we are married now. She let that hole grow closed, and her hair is just brown now but she still freaks me out from time to time.
Uh...yeah. If you were actually born in 1973, you were hardly punk before it was cool, unless your parents gave you a mohawk and pierced your little nose with a clothespin while you were in diapers.
I dated a girl in High School with pink hair. One day she stuck a safety-pin through her ear without even warning me or anything... kinda freaked me out. Its 11 years later and we are married now. She let that hole grow closed, and her hair is just brown now but she still freaks me out from time to time.
RadioDoc wrote:
Got me.
Consider though: While punk may have been dead in 73, Canada lags behind the rest of the industrialized world in many ways, and Winnipeg would be considered backwoods by Canadian standards. We got a GAP at our mall only last year, and teens still order acid wash jean jackets out of the Sears catalogue. So, it follows then that punk might not have been dead here, even though the rest of the world considered it so.
If you were indeed born in 1973, you're not "punk". You may be a punk though.
Got me.Consider though: While punk may have been dead in 73, Canada lags behind the rest of the industrialized world in many ways, and Winnipeg would be considered backwoods by Canadian standards. We got a GAP at our mall only last year, and teens still order acid wash jean jackets out of the Sears catalogue. So, it follows then that punk might not have been dead here, even though the rest of the world considered it so.
RadioDoc wrote:
Uh...yeah. If you were actually born in 1973, you were hardly punk before it was cool, unless your parents gave you a mohawk and pierced your little nose with a clothespin while you were in diapers.
If you were indeed born in 1973, you're not "punk". You may be a punk though.
Uh...yeah. If you were actually born in 1973, you were hardly punk before it was cool, unless your parents gave you a mohawk and pierced your little nose with a clothespin while you were in diapers.
OldFrenchie wrote:
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
If you were indeed born in 1973, you're not "punk". You may be a punk though.
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
holborne wrote:
Wow, you're so punk rock!
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
Wow, you're so punk rock!
Its true! I was punk way back before it was considered "cool" (or kewl?).
holborne wrote:
I'll give this one a 7 for now. I don't really care why Conor Oberst is considered a bad guy unless it is political, and as I've posted here before if artists are supposed to refrain from producing work that is devoid of their feelings then it is not art. It is mass produced, tasteless pablum.
There are some artists I really disagree with politically but until they run for office that is completely irrelevant if their artistic product is something I like.
Oh, come on, guys. Rate the song that you actually hear, not the person singing it. It doesn't make you a big rebel just because you see Conor Oberst and go, "Ew, give him a low rating!"
I Agree. That goes for rating really bad performances a 10 just because it's some chick you think is hot...I'll give this one a 7 for now. I don't really care why Conor Oberst is considered a bad guy unless it is political, and as I've posted here before if artists are supposed to refrain from producing work that is devoid of their feelings then it is not art. It is mass produced, tasteless pablum.
There are some artists I really disagree with politically but until they run for office that is completely irrelevant if their artistic product is something I like.
OldFrenchie wrote:
Whatever. If it sucks it sucks. I call 'em like I hear 'em.
Wow, you're so punk rock!
Whatever. If it sucks it sucks. I call 'em like I hear 'em.
Wow, you're so punk rock!
I have no idea who the guy is. I rated it on my reaction to the song.
holborne wrote:
Whatever. If it sucks it sucks. I call 'em like I hear 'em.
Oh, come on, guys. Rate the song that you actually hear, not the person singing it. It doesn't make you a big rebel just because you see Conor Oberst and go, "Ew, give him a low rating!"
Whatever. If it sucks it sucks. I call 'em like I hear 'em.
Oh, come on, guys. Rate the song that you actually hear, not the person singing it. It doesn't make you a big rebel just because you see Conor Oberst and go, "Ew, give him a low rating!"
I live just a few miles from Sausalito. California that is.
Makes me think of John Steinbeck. Sausalito