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Augie March — Stranger Strange
Album: Moo, You Bloody Choir
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Released: 2006
Length: 5:07
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Some go high and very low, none too different or the same you know, I know cos I've seen them come and go.
When summer comes the valley hums with medicine trucks on
the sidewalks, laid out those hands could be holy...

Stranger, stranger, hard earned familiar,
I've got no jokes,
And you hit me up for more than just my shrapnel and smokes.

Some go high and very low, no two different or the same you know,
I know cos I've seen them come and go...

Stranger, stranger, strange you should be listening like a river to
the end of my curdled song,
Nobody knows what madness could come along.
Now if you see a being borne into a trap you free it,
They know kindness when they see it,
Stranger Strange would it come if you could call it?

Some go high and very low, none too different or the same you know, I know cos I?ve seen them come and go.

It's quiet now, the streets are silent,
When music out of the arms of community flies...

Stranger Strange I knew I knew you,
Now the bug lights in the bank imbue you
With eyes like decals and a voice like an iron file.
Stranger strange, though the earth be an anvil,
I'm not waiting for the hammer to fall,
I'm not waiting for anything at all.
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I like this song pretty much...however this album artwork is unfortunate to me. The title sounds ridiculous to me...then again...maybe that's the point. Sounds quite a bit like Elbow.
thought it was Muse for a moment...
 coloradojohn wrote:

To me, the lyrics, cryptic as any Augie March likes them and serves them well, represent a soldier walking through the strange and stranger landscape of modern life meanwhile feelings and truths haven't and won't change no matter what the trappings are, and, from this perplexing yet inescapable perspective, since one never knows what joy or calamity is coming next, perhaps it is just as well not to sit around waiting for it, and maybe that is the strangest thing of all but probably truest nonetheless...

 
It is all very strange.  I can't figure the first thing out about the world.  Just keep the fucking government off my back.  No one paid for me as a kid and I don't want to pay for anyone else's kids.  The one thing I fear above all is a dictatorship -- being tortured because I don't subscribe to some slogan.  All systems are bullshit except democracy because government is a necessary evil.  Live free and don't harm others.
To update my Dec. 2010 comment... this Augie March song is reminiscent of Still in the Kitchen by the Jazz Butcher Conspiracy. Check it out on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKKI2SewJg. But don't bother if Stranger Strange was putting you to sleep. I'm going to delve into Augie March - never heard of him until this came up on RP. Thanks Bill.

As for the Jazz Butcher - one of the best live shows I ever saw - in Calgary, AB mid-80's with my punk rock friends. The purple hair crowd was way disappointed cuz they expected Butchie's raucous stuff like Death Dentist.  What fabulous musicians. The sounds floating around that university hall were magical...and I wasn't on anything.
 LOL. Well played on both your comments, boober!

boober wrote:
slapped the wife of 30 years and told her to get me a Bud.



 


I like the Augster.
I adore this song!
 coloradojohn wrote:

To me, the lyrics, cryptic as any Augie March likes them and serves them well, represent a soldier walking through the strange and stranger landscape of modern life meanwhile feelings and truths haven't and won't change no matter what the trappings are, and, from this perplexing yet inescapable perspective, since one never knows what joy or calamity is coming next, perhaps it is just as well not to sit around waiting for it, and maybe that is the strangest thing of all but probably truest nonetheless...
 
As TerryS, I find this interpretation very elegant
 Businessgypsy wrote:
In the jungle I live in, things are not so dire. Fewer and fewer people people work and pay taxes, more and more enjoy the basics (and even some services out of reach of many of the working) on the backs of those taking responsibility. It's as if slavery has returned, in a more subtle form and wearing the disguise of social engineering. The "human right" being claimed, it seems, is to force others to work so that a large segment of the population may be idle.

Quite a difference between that scenario and the spectre of millions dying from hunger. Both are true, within their context. Meaning that a blanket position on the issue of pulling your own weight will not cover much. Discussion, context and a willingness to recognize reality withing specific populations is called for. Bumper Sticker solutions rarely provide more than division. The future of government and human relations will depend on our ability to lay aside the sports competition model and embrace communication and compromise.


 
This is the sound of a guy who thinks he's the lion roaring in the jungle - and everyone else is what? a jungle bunny?  In the last 20 years, the income of the middle class has gone down - increased competition from abroad, rising costs of education, the widening gulf between workers and management/executive, skyrocking executive pay, ferocious pursuit of the bottom line, etc.  Few of these can be ascribed to the personal failings of the American worker. But the phrase "on the backs of those taking responsibility" - oh, my!  That sounds more like whiney, pity-pot complaining Tea Party, racist-tinged, Ayn Rand-quoting than someone "embrac(ing) communication and compromise."
Ooh I forgot about this album. It's a cracker, must dig it out again. ;-)
I love this song, and I doubt I would have heard it were it not for RP. I can't count the number of such songs RP has sent my way. Bill is my musical oracle...
 coloradojohn wrote:

To me, the lyrics, cryptic as any Augie March likes them and serves them well, represent a soldier walking through the strange and stranger landscape of modern life meanwhile feelings and truths haven't and won't change no matter what the trappings are, and, from this perplexing yet inescapable perspective, since one never knows what joy or calamity is coming next, perhaps it is just as well not to sit around waiting for it, and maybe that is the strangest thing of all but probably truest nonetheless...
 
Elegant interpretation indeed
 yofitofu wrote:
Very hypnotic and addicting. The first time I didn't like it. Now I am absolutely hooked on it. Top of my iTunes. Beautiful song. Thanks for playing it.

But does anyone understand what the lyrics are about? I certainly don't. 
 
To me, the lyrics, cryptic as any Augie March likes them and serves them well, represent a soldier walking through the strange and stranger landscape of modern life meanwhile feelings and truths haven't and won't change no matter what the trappings are, and, from this perplexing yet inescapable perspective, since one never knows what joy or calamity is coming next, perhaps it is just as well not to sit around waiting for it, and maybe that is the strangest thing of all but probably truest nonetheless...
 
bam23 wrote:

Also a bit quirky. I find that the songs on this album each sound sufficiently different that it could be a different band on some of them. This is a very good album, although my opinion is just that, an opinion. I also cannot say that they sound like anyone else.
 
Yeah...I have to admit I preferred their other other albums Strange Bird and Sunset Studies...but....maybe because my expectations have eased off now I enjoy this album more than I used to. People saying songs like this are formulaic maybe haven't listened to their albums in full. They're pretty random and varied. So...even if you don't like every song on the album there might be something on each of them that you like. Songs like "The Drowning Dream" or "Owen's Lament" don't sound like any songs I've heard from other bands.... and there are some faster more crunchy numbers here and there to keep you awake.

I wonder what they've been up to since this album..?
Good track, but definitely not Augie March's best - one of their duller tracks.
Just Passing Through, There Is No Such Place, Watch Me Disappear, Asleep In Perfection, Men Who Follow Spring The Planet 'Round, This Train Will Be Taking No Passengers and many more are better.
 rodwenban wrote:
occasionally I hear Paul MacCartney..which just shows how old I am - I never understand lyrics..I once asked Australians legendary poet Les Murray why he explained a poem during a personal reading but they never elaborate in their books...poets please note - we are not all as intelligent as you guys..help us out a bit. (sorry all..my personal beef) and more illustrations in books!!!

 


Very hypnotic and addicting. The first time I didn't like it. Now I am absolutely hooked on it. Top of my iTunes. Beautiful song. Thanks for playing it.

But does anyone understand what the lyrics are about? I certainly don't. 

Having iTunes and RadioParadise open at the same time can be expensive... very nice piece- very melodic.
 AlienRelic wrote:
My wife just poked her head in my office door and said "That's pretty sappy, crappy music." Who am I to disagree?
 
A smart husband?  Also maybe someone with decent (at least) taste in music. 

This is completely unoffensive, uninspired, and formulaic.  Heard it 1000 times before and didn't really think much of it the first time.

Not so bad, like the sound.
My wife just poked her head in my office door and said "That's pretty sappy, crappy music." Who am I to disagree?
Great song. One Crowded Hour is also a very good song.
Very interesting album.

 ziggytrix wrote:
Do you actually know anyone on welfare? 
https://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1302

Ziggytrix, that's a pretty good example of the position tendered in the second paragraph of my original post. Me assuming I know everyone's story, or you assuming you know mine, is no substitute for a discussion of the facts and feelings associated with economics and poverty. FAIR has an agenda to advance, and does so with a flamethrower. A less defensive and more engaging conversation could result in better understanding on both sides of the issue.

FWIW, taxable wages now account for around 41% of spendable income in the United States. That's the lowest ratio of working wage earners ever. No matter how you think tax dollars should be spent, someone has to generate them. The more people who live off of the fewer who are working, the closer the whole system is to collapse. Abuse is as undeniable as need. Discussion is warranted.


The more I hear this song, the more I like it! Just bumped 'er up to a 9 {#Bounce}
 Businessgypsy wrote:
In the jungle I live in, things are not so dire. Fewer and fewer people people work and pay taxes, more and more enjoy the basics (and even some services out of reach of many of the working) on the backs of those taking responsibility. It's as if slavery has returned, in a more subtle form and wearing the disguise of social engineering. The "human right" being claimed, it seems, is to force others to work so that a large segment of the population may be idle.

I reckon this: in my country works like this (sadly) as well . But this is performed, IMO, by governments in order to keep the same machine working without modifying anything, radically. I understand the feeling of injustice this brings to many, but you can´t blame people without an education for accepting what is offered to them in order to immediately survive . But we do can make people in a higher (cultural, economical, educational) position than them (likely you, me and most of the RP audience) responsible for not promoting any social change and just making a reactionary complaint or remaining indifferent. Having a higher education implies a higher responsibility from our end.  I concur that just complaining about capitalism doesn't make any difference either.

Quite a difference between that scenario and the spectre of millions dying from hunger. Both are true, within their context. Meaning that a blanket position on the issue of pulling your own weight will not cover much. Discussion, context and a willingness to recognize reality withing specific populations is called for. Bumper Sticker solutions rarely provide more than division. The future of government and human relations will depend on our ability to lay aside the sports competition model and embrace communication and compromise.

                
                 {#Arrowu}

Truly Great Reflection!
Best, Nicolas

 

YAWN! Excuse me! I'm about to fall asleep! It's friday night!{#Sleep}
 olesonb wrote:


Grabbed the wife of 25yrs for a dance. Night Club 2 Step actually. :)
  slapped the wife of 30 years and told her to get me a Bud.


 Businessgypsy wrote:
In the jungle I live in, things are not so dire. Fewer and fewer people people work and pay taxes, more and more enjoy the basics (and even some services out of reach of many of the working) on the backs of those taking responsibility. It's as if slavery has returned, in a more subtle form and wearing the disguise of social engineering. The "human right" being claimed, it seems, is to force others to work so that a large segment of the population may be idle.
 

Do you actually know anyone on welfare? 

https://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1302


i can hardly believe that this is the same band that does:
Augie MarchJust Passing Through

which has been one of favoite songs for the past few years...

this song is a little too sleepy for me

Felix_The_Cat wrote:
Yes, In the Jungle we live in, that's very practical. And leaves thousands, not, millions of hungry people dying, without health care and education. Of course, if they cannot afford them why should they have it?

I'm saying there must be a more fair way of distributing things which are human rights...

In the jungle I live in, things are not so dire. Fewer and fewer people people work and pay taxes, more and more enjoy the basics (and even some services out of reach of many of the working) on the backs of those taking responsibility. It's as if slavery has returned, in a more subtle form and wearing the disguise of social engineering. The "human right" being claimed, it seems, is to force others to work so that a large segment of the population may be idle.

Quite a difference between that scenario and the spectre of millions dying from hunger. Both are true, within their context. Meaning that a blanket position on the issue of pulling your own weight will not cover much. Discussion, context and a willingness to recognize reality withing specific populations is called for. Bumper Sticker solutions rarely provide more than division. The future of government and human relations will depend on our ability to lay aside the sports competition model and embrace communication and compromise.


The tune reminds me of the band Jazz Butcher - Distressed Gentlefolk album from '86. Can't recall the track name for sure. Maybe "Hungarian Love Song"
 daedalus wrote:
Quirky, and excellent for that.
Wonder what the rest of the album's like..? 
 
Also a bit quirky. I find that the songs on this album each sound sufficiently different that it could be a different band on some of them. This is a very good album, although my opinion is just that, an opinion. I also cannot say that they sound like anyone else.
ya, or the Hours  meadowwoods wrote:
Reminds me of Bono or Travis.
Nice.

 


Quirky, and excellent for that.
Wonder what the rest of the album's like..? 
 SinisterDexter wrote: Not bad, but I like the the k. d. lang verson better.

 
SusieQ wrote:


I could not find this done by KD Lang.   ... but there is an uncanny similarity of this song to any of the lazy, smokey, dreamy tunes on her album "Drag"
  

Hmm... now that you mention it, I may be confusing it with one of her songs.
 SusieQ wrote:


I could not find this done by KD Lang.   ... but there is an uncanny similarity of this song to any of the lazy, smokey, dreamy tunes on her album "Drag"
 

agreed.  similar phrasing and vocal arrangement.
 SinisterDexter wrote:
Not bad, but I like the the k. d. lang verson better.
 

I could not find this done by KD Lang.   ... but there is an uncanny similarity of this song to any of the lazy, smokey, dreamy tunes on her album "Drag"
What is it about Augie March that relaxes me, and makes guys dance with their wives? This is magically beautiful - something I know my mother would have loved, something that puts a smile on my face... This is simply wonderful.{#Sunny}{#Daisy}
 olesonb wrote:


Grabbed the wife of 25yrs for a dance. Night Club 2 Step actually. :)
 

That's awesome!!  {#Angel}
Reminds me of Bono or Travis.
Nice.

Not bad, but I like the the k. d. lang verson better.
 kestrel wrote:
Grabbed the new wife for a dance.....{#Hug}
 

Grabbed the wife of 25yrs for a dance. Night Club 2 Step actually. :)
 Lexapro_Headrush wrote:
When listening to this song, I think I'm dancing to a some slow song with some babe at a Homecoming Dance.
 
Do you have skills?  

 


pretty cool tune RP {#Angel}
 kestrel wrote:
Grabbed the new wife for a dance.....{#Hug}
  Is the old one available?


 Businessgypsy wrote:
or maybe just practical economics.


 
Yes, In the Jungle we live in, that's very practical. And leaves thousands, not, millions of hungry people dying, without health care and education. Of course, if they cannot afford them why should they have it?

I'm saying there must be a more fair way of distributing things which are human rights.

I am not saying to steal anything, we all work hard for havng what we do and what we produce to others.

But in the system we live in, even that cannot warranty the most basic human rights, and that's not because there isn't enough for everyone.

And, of course,you, me, anyone should think very well and support RP while it is at our reach.

Felix_The_Cat wrote:
...And it's not like Jelani says "if you can't pay it then you can't have it". That's quite an horrendous elitist-posh way of thinking don't you think?
or maybe just practical economics.

Which reminds me:
Please support RP, if you're able. If it helps to think of us as a collective paying according to ability, I'm cool with that.

Nice song, by the way.

    kestrel wrote:
    Grabbed the new wife for a dance.....
{#Hug}

Mazeltov, Kestrel - sweet of you to tell us of happy times in private lives. Hope you're dancing on your 50th as well!


a 7 for now ~ but bet it goes to an 8
Grabbed the new wife for a dance.....{#Hug}
JUST RIDICULOUS.
I thought this was a U2 'One' outtake!?{#Stupid}
I thought this was Beck that I didn't know. 
 Felix_The_Cat wrote:

Perhaps artists must find another way to live from their art. as, for instance, from concerts or collecting money from people that can actually pay it.. RP and Radiohead 'In Rainbows' are excellent examples of that, and I'm gratefull to them cause, right now, I cannot afford CD's or a subscription fee.

And it's not like Jelani says "if you can't pay it then you can't have it". That's quite an horrendous elitist-posh way of thinking don't you think?

 
I think I'll go knock over a bank now.

And again.................... NiceAssSong!!

Beautiful, I love this story and his voice, and the fact that it slowly takes you to another place

Stranger Strange
Some go high and very low, none too different or the same you know, I know cos I've seen them come and go.
When summer comes the valley hums with medicine trucks on
the sidewalks, laid out those hands could be holy...

Stranger, stranger, hard earned familiar,
I've got no jokes,
And you hit me up for more than just my shrapnel and smokes.

Some go high and very low, no two different or the same you know,
I know cos I've seen them come and go...

Stranger, stranger, strange you should be listening like a river to
the end of my curdled song,
Nobody knows what madness could come along.
Now if you see a being borne into a trap you free it,
They know kindness when they see it,
Stranger Strange would it come if you could call it?

Some go high and very low, none too different or the same you know, I know cos I?ve seen them come and go.

It's quiet now, the streets are silent,
When music out of the arms of community flies...

Stranger Strange I knew I knew you,
Now the bug lights in the bank imbue you
With eyes like decals and a voice like an iron file.
Stranger strange, though the earth be an anvil,
I'm not waiting for the hammer to fall,
I'm not waiting for anything at all.


 ripemedia wrote:
Definitely got a Bono sound. I think their song "Just Passing Through" sounds even more like a U2 song, circa the Achtung Baby years.

 
No it doesn't!

no matter, like it or not (I do), that is some sweet, clean and honest guitar playing. 
Once again........ quite nice.
Man, this song just sucks.
 mojoman wrote:
Yeesh, what a long, rambling, self-serving justification for simple theft. As someone who makes his living producing copyrighted material, I resent people like stealing from me and thousands of others with your attitude.
 
Perhaps artists must find another way to live from their art. as, for instance, from concerts or collecting money from people that can actually pay it.. RP and Radiohead 'In Rainbows' are excellent examples of that, and I'm gratefull to them cause, right now, I cannot afford CD's or a subscription fee.

And it's not like Jelani says "if you can't pay it then you can't have it". That's quite an horrendous elitist-posh way of thinking don't you think?

 malvey254 wrote:
Lots of comparisons - personally I always think this is Spacehog when I hear it.  Sounds like a mashup of Lucy's Shoe, Starside, and Almond Kisses.

I guess you sort of have to really like Spacehog to know all those songs.
 
the boys in Spacehog are back together again

Were the tune a food it would be instant vanilla pudding.
Defenitely more Keaneish than anything else. But it's quite nice IMO.
Lots of comparisons - personally I always think this is Spacehog when I hear it.  Sounds like a mashup of Lucy's Shoe, Starside, and Almond Kisses.

I guess you sort of have to really like Spacehog to know all those songs.

{#High-five}

 Felix_The_Cat wrote:
This is f***ing Keane!!!! {#Puke}
 
No, but it sounds like nice Keane!!

 countyman wrote:
Does anybody else here the voice of a young Bono?
 

Believe it or not, before I looked I was wondering when Thom Yorke had learned to sing.
This is f***ing Keane!!!! {#Puke}
When listening to this song, I think I'm dancing to a some slow song with some babe at a Homecoming Dance.
Definitely got a Bono sound. I think their song "Just Passing Through" sounds even more like a U2 song, circa the Achtung Baby years.

Thanks for playing this - such a haunting and memorable song. You'd never hear it anywhere else but here. Augie's best!
 countyman wrote:
Does anybody else here the voice of a young Bono?
 
Kind of. . . . Let's hope we are not completely sick of hearing it in ten years!

 countyman wrote:
Does anybody else here the voice of a young Bono?


I hear it too.  Just a touch, but it's there. 


 countyman wrote:
Does anybody else here the voice of a young Bono?
 

I have it down pretty low and went in to see what U2 song it was.
 snakefinger wrote:
I feel strange
 
That's odd stranger. {#Eek}
 countyman wrote:
Does anybody else here the voice of a young Bono?
 
That would be when he went by Bono Vox.  aka Mr. Good  Voice.
No it doesn't (whew).  I thought it sounded a little like Thom York (sp?) from far away. 
ed:  doesn't sound at all like TY up close.  Kind of a cool song though

Does anybody else here the voice of a young Bono?
Almost 10 from Sweden.. the guitar in the middle is already a classic..    {#Meditate}


I've heard this a thousand times on RP but today....right now...it sounds really good.
"nobody knows when the maddness comes"
 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

I'll buy it off of you for $4.00!
Have you priced this thing used on Amazon lately?
Holy Moley!!!{#Eyes}

 
That's labeled as a limited edition, import. Search Amazon for the ordinary, regular cost version.

bumped from 7 to 8. love the lyrics, too.

I would add, "Hokey mokey." I wish I had invested in Augie March futures.

 
KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

I'll buy it off of you for $4.00!
Have you priced this thing used on Amazon lately?
Holy Moley!!!{#Eyes}

 


 xc_para_puravida wrote:
Unfortunately, when I listen to this I can't help but think I could be listening to something better.
 
That's a little passive, no?  Maybe you could get up and make your own music.

 bam23 wrote:
I only know about this band through RP. Then I found this CD for $2. These guys are good. If this is too slow for some, that's a real problem, isn't it? Some songs are not speedy and frenetic, instead are exploring another view of things. The songs on this CD are quite varied. They do tend to sound like a range of influences, but not in a derivative way. There does seems to be a southern hemisphere, Australia-New Zealand sound that does come through in their work. I enjoy this CD, and would never have found it without this station. Avoid the critiques of listeners who complain that a song puts them to sleep. I have found that any song can be ideal for a certain time and place (AKA set and setting). It always makes sense to keep this in mind.
 
I'll buy it off of you for $4.00!
Have you priced this thing used on Amazon lately?
Holy Moley!!!{#Eyes}


I only know about this band through RP. Then I found this CD for $2. These guys are good. If this is too slow for some, that's a real problem, isn't it? Some songs are not speedy and frenetic, instead are exploring another view of things. The songs on this CD are quite varied. They do tend to sound like a range of influences, but not in a derivative way. There does seems to be a southern hemisphere, Australia-New Zealand sound that does come through in their work. I enjoy this CD, and would never have found it without this station. Avoid the critiques of listeners who complain that a song puts them to sleep. I have found that any song can be ideal for a certain time and place (AKA set and setting). It always makes sense to keep this in mind.
I feel strange
 jhorton wrote:
Fighting to stay awake.

Losing.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............

Like a 2 at best. 
 

See "boileyman" below
 boileymon wrote:

Go to Wal-mart and pick up the new AC/DC.

9.
 
Oouuuuuuuchhhh! 

 Excelsior wrote:

This song could put me to sleep even after a triple espresso.

 
Go to Wal-mart and pick up the new AC/DC.

9.


Dude can sing

9
 jhorton wrote:
Fighting to stay awake.

Losing.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............

Like a 2 at best. 
 
Because you are sleepy?  Harsh.  You should never serve on jury duty.

Fighting to stay awake.

Losing.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............

Like a 2 at best. 
 nate917 wrote:

Jelani is correctly pointing out that you either steal, or you buy the wares of those who do. You think that doing it on a (unilaterally-imposed) trial basis somehow justifies your trafficking in stolen intellectual property, but really you're in violation of both federal law and the rights of the musicians who own that property. What you're saying is, "if I want to break the law, I will." True enough, but your arrogance about it is misplaced. At least the courts think so.

And, no, it is not analogous to a library situation. A library (i) is cooperative, (ii) pays for its wares, (iii) strictly loans, not sells, its wares, and (iv) has the benefit of being lawful. Yes, you should borrow music from your library. No, you should not rip off musicians by buying music on the grey or black market. Don't get me wrong — I'm pro-file-sharing on entirely different grounds. But you have little right to talk down to Jelani on the subject. It is the federal government, not Jelani, who insists you are a thief.

 
4. government 206 up, 63 down love ithate it
 
1. to create to illusion of freedom and liberty for all citizens; when in reality the government (U.S.) gives a few control over the entire civilized Earth, while the rest are slaves, whether you realize it or not.

2. Control
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=government

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horstman wrote:

Well, thanks for insulting me, you . . . oh never mind. If I want to use this site, I will. If you think I'm a thief, fine. But I found it to be a good medium for listening to music that I might like without having to dish out 15 bucks to see if by chance I might like it. If I do, I go out and buy the album (usually). If I don't, I toss it in the recycle bin.

Kinda like going to the library to listen to music to see if I like it. I suppose I'm a thief if I go to the library and take out a book to read? Same basic philosophy Jelani. Are you calling me a thief for that?

By the way, allofmp3 is no longer operational in the United States and maybe the western world (you know, Texas). It was nice while it lasted but all good things must come to an end. Kinda like cheap American Gas!{#Nyah}


Jelani is correctly pointing out that you either steal, or you buy the wares of those who do. You think that doing it on a (unilaterally-imposed) trial basis somehow justifies your trafficking in stolen intellectual property, but really you're in violation of both federal law and the rights of the musicians who own that property. What you're saying is, "if I want to break the law, I will." True enough, but your arrogance about it is misplaced. At least the courts think so.

And, no, it is not analogous to a library situation. A library (i) is cooperative, (ii) pays for its wares, (iii) strictly loans, not sells, its wares, and (iv) has the benefit of being lawful. Yes, you should borrow music from your library. No, you should not rip off musicians by buying music on the grey or black market. Don't get me wrong — I'm pro-file-sharing on entirely different grounds. But you have little right to talk down to Jelani on the subject. It is the federal government, not Jelani, who insists you are a thief.

yawn
 DoctorHooey wrote:
snoozer snooze
 
Yeah, pretty much.  This song could put me to sleep even after a triple espresso.

another imho two-cents: when you there are albums you can only buy from oh, say itunes, furthermore that have a limited-use lifetime, it's clear that there's more going on then whether or not one can *afford* an album or one is stealing.  like horstman i'm very happy to pay for my music when i can actually find an album i like that doesn't have drm.  but if not and it's available for download, i'll do that.  i think i have a right to keep music i purchase, so i won't spend my money otherwise.  i think that's stealing, only it's "legal."  i see this as a valid and ongoing debate about ownership. no reason to get insulting....  {#Ask}

 
horstman wrote:

Well, thanks for insulting me, you . . . oh never mind. If I want to use this site, I will. If you think I'm a thief, fine. But I found it to be a good medium for listening to music that I might like without having to dish out 15 bucks to see if by chance I might like it. If I do, I go out and buy the album (usually). If I don't, I toss it in the recycle bin.

Kinda like going to the library to listen to music to see if I like it. I suppose I'm a thief if I go to the library and take out a book to read? Same basic philosophy Jelani. Are you calling me a thief for that?

By the way, allofmp3 is no longer operational in the United States and maybe the western world (you know, Texas). It was nice while it lasted but all good things must come to an end. Kinda like cheap American Gas!{#Nyah}

 

I like this....Sounds like Travis.
 Jelani wrote:
You are quite the ignorant...Oh, nevermind. You're just a simple thief. If you can't afford it, then you can't have it. Plain and simple. And you have no RIGHT to it, which you seem to think you do, which makes you and the people you got it from thieves.
 
Well, thanks for insulting me, you . . . oh never mind. If I want to use this site, I will. If you think I'm a thief, fine. But I found it to be a good medium for listening to music that I might like without having to dish out 15 bucks to see if by chance I might like it. If I do, I go out and buy the album (usually). If I don't, I toss it in the recycle bin.

Kinda like going to the library to listen to music to see if I like it. I suppose I'm a thief if I go to the library and take out a book to read? Same basic philosophy Jelani. Are you calling me a thief for that?

By the way, allofmp3 is no longer operational in the United States and maybe the western world (you know, Texas). It was nice while it lasted but all good things must come to an end. Kinda like cheap American Gas!{#Nyah}

Unfortunately, when I listen to this I can't help but think I could be listening to something better.
Growing on me => 7 -> 8

(but where'd they get that title for the album?)
Wonderful song which I am thoroughly addicted to since I saw it on the soundtrack of the movie "Cashback" - also a very fine movie!
Dog_Ear wrote:
Typical of RP - They often discover the ONLY track worth listening to on any given CD. Kudos for this trick. But my library has expanded geometrically for all those one shot wonders -as well as the target rich CDs ---that I would have heard NOWHERE ELSE. Thanks RP!
I second that! RP found the the few excellent things a number of artists have done. CF Splashdown and I Understand for example.
Dog_Ear wrote:
Typical of RP - They often discover the ONLY track worth listening to on any given CD. Kudos for this trick. But my library has expanded geometrically for all those one shot wonders -as well as the target rich CDs ---that I would have heard NOWHERE ELSE. Thanks RP!
Good ear....dog!
Typical of RP - They often discover the ONLY track worth listening to on any given CD. Kudos for this trick. But my library has expanded geometrically for all those one shot wonders -as well as the target rich CDs ---that I would have heard NOWHERE ELSE. Thanks RP!
This song is great, it prompted me to get the album. Boy was I disappointed. This is by far the standout - nothing else on there compares to it.
mmm, that snare segues really nicely out of Beth Orton's Stars All Seem To Weep
DoctorHooey wrote:
snoozer snooze
Oh please. I acknowledge that individual tastes are just that - individual, but this tune is almost perfect in its structure and phrasing, especially the guitar refrain in the middle.
If this was K.D. Lang, I would think it was typical of her. . But it's somebody else, and that makes it extraordinary!
snoozer snooze
horstman wrote:
For all you that think the record industry is taking a big bite out of our pay and now this internet taxing of music to small webcasters, check out allofmp3.com I bought this album for $2 at 192 bitrate. Now I know that Augie March is getting no money for this and the Russian site is undeed unfair to artists, but it is also a good medium to obtain music at little cost for review. I have bought many CDS that I previewed for little cost here. VISA and MASTERCARD have dropped out being partners with this site, but there are still a few payment options available (diners club international and JCB Credit Card). I got all of Porcupine Tree's out of print albums here for pennies on the dollar. Is it immoral or unjust? Maybe. Is living and paying taxes for a government that is changing the face of the middle east in negative ways any less so? So here is another way to get Augie March for less. Let the record companies come up with a better solution for getting obscure music to us for a REASONABLE amount of money. Horstman
You are quite the ignorant...Oh, nevermind. You're just a simple thief. If you can't afford it, then you can't have it. Plain and simple. And you have no RIGHT to it, which you seem to think you do, which makes you and the people you got it from thieves.
I like the end better than the beginning. Or its growing on me.
mfcrowe wrote:
sounds almost like a U-2 knock-off
Yeah, I was just thinking this is a nice tune, but I can't seem to get past his Bono sounding voice.(which grates on me something terrible).
sounds almost like a U-2 knock-off
chasech5 wrote:
Mostly forgettable. Except for the Jeff Buckley influence.
I never would have heard Jeff in this until you mentioned it. Its a fairly subtle influence, IMO. Too bad he can't sing like Jeff, (but then, who can?) And I think this is quite nice, BTW.
moo
Nice song, nicely written and sung... nice.
Nice follow up Bill!!
Mostly forgettable. Except for the Jeff Buckley influence.