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The Stranglers — Always the Sun
Album: Dreamtime
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Released: 1986
Length: 5:48
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How many times have you woken up and prayed for the rain?
How many times have you seen the papers apportion the blame?
Who gets to say, who gets to work and who gets to play?
I was always told at school, everybody should get the same

How many times have you been told if you don't ask you don't get?
How many times have you wasted your money your mother said you shouldn't bet
And who has the fun? Is it always a man with a gun?
Someone must have told you if you work too hard you can sweat

There's always the sun
Mmmm, there's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun

How many times has the government told you stories that made you laugh?
You know it's not up to the politicians and the leaders, when they do things by half
Who gets the job of pushing the knob?
That's what responsibility you draw straws for if you're mad enough

There's always the sun
Mmmm, there's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun

There's always the sun
Mmmm, there's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun

There's always the sun
There's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun

Always the sun
Always the sun

There's always the sun
Mmmm, there's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun

There's always the sun
There's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun
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Always the worst!
JAM
 pfreet wrote:

Wow, have you ever considered not everyone shares your political beliefs?

Now, if you have any comments about the music, we'd love to discuss it. 
 
It was an ironic reference to The Sun newspaper
One of my favourites song of them. Zawsze lubilem ta piosenke
found this on Wikipedia:

Sunny Side Up Mix

Following HughCornwell's departure from the band in August 1990, Epic Records decided to release a greatest hits compilation album. To promote this compilation, a remix of "Always the Sun" was released as a single on 24 December 1990, Christmas Eve.  The remix consisted of extra guitar work from new guitarist John Ellis and a slight variation in the music, although Hugh Cornwell's original vocals were still used.

Like the original, the single got good airplay, but this time peaked at #29, one place higher than the original.  Cornwell stated in his book Song By Song that he was not angered by the remix, asserting that he was privileged that Epic Records thought "Always the Sun" was good enough to be re released, and feeling that the band changed little of the original recordings.

 kcar wrote:


This sounds a lot like a re-recording. There are more guitar fills and supporting guitar work, the drums are bassier, the sound is cleaner and fuller, the ending is different, etc. 

Which is cool. It's still a great song. 
 
I pretty sure that the album was re-issued in 2001 and at that time it was remastered.  I'm guessing that this is the remastered version.
 Ptijoc wrote:

I agree, this version is good but very différent. We'd like to know why? Somebody knows?
 

This sounds a lot like a re-recording. There are more guitar fills and supporting guitar work, the drums are bassier, the sound is cleaner and fuller, the ending is different, etc. 

Which is cool. It's still a great song. 
Really love how he mixes up the lyrics.... doesn’t seem to drone on and on and on and on and on.......

 Snowing here but There is always the sun
or SON OF SATAN

Mahahaha hawawa ha haha
{#Bananajam} 


Roguewarer wrote:
Wow. Not surprised you heathens miss the subliminal Christian message.

And if you listen very hard, the truth will come to you at last:
Exactly 666 refrains in, you can CLEARLY hear him sing, "There's always The Son."

BAM! You just got punked by The Stranglers' "Always The Son" — a favorite played (& played & played & played) in revival tents worldwide.

Bonus Feature on original album sleeve notes:

What is there always?
A: The Sun
B: The Son
C: Thus, son
D: This song
E: This On (and on, and on, and on, and on...)

 


Q: What is there always?
Wow. Not surprised you heathens miss the subliminal Christian message.

And if you listen very hard, the truth will come to you at last:
Exactly 666 refrains in, you can CLEARLY hear him sing, "There's always The Son."

BAM! You just got punked by The Stranglers' "Always The Son" — a favorite played (& played & played & played) in revival tents worldwide.

Bonus Feature on original album sleeve notes:

What is there always?
A: The Sun
B: The Son
C: Thus, son
D: This song
E: This On (and on, and on, and on, and on...)
there is always the truth . . .
{#Bananajam}
 Jakethemuss wrote:
Can't believe they wrote a song glorifying such a rightwing newspaper.  Should follow this with "Mirror in the Bathroom" for some political balance.

 

 
(Scousers) Never Buy The Sun • Billy Bragg
 rtrt wrote:
Parts of this sound different to how i remember the original 86 album version - later remix?

Edit - actually very different, sounds like it might've even been re-recorded

Edit 2 - if its this one  6 Sunny Side Up Mix  then a bit of both. Means the covers wrong

 
I agree, this version is good but very différent. We'd like to know why? Somebody knows?
 ai63 wrote:
Runs to get his Rattus Norvegicus

 
Just what are you planning to do with your sewer rat?


McAlways
Parts of this sound different to how i remember the original 86 album version - later remix?

Edit - actually very different, sounds like it might've even been re-recorded

Edit 2 - if its this one  6 Sunny Side Up Mix  then a bit of both. Means the covers wrong
 westslope wrote:
Vocals remind me of Lou Reed.  And now after having read a few comments, I see I am not alone.

In any event, if this is 'punk', I like it!   {#Cheesygrin} 

 
I thought the same that it sounded like Lou Reed as soon as the song started and had to check to see who this was.
 Time waits for no one
Jota wrote:

Telegraph Road.

 

awesomeness
 Jakethemuss wrote:
Can't believe they wrote a song glorifying such a rightwing newspaper.  Should follow this with "Mirror in the Bathroom" for some political balance.

 
Wow, have you ever considered not everyone shares your political beliefs?

Now, if you have any comments about the music, we'd love to discuss it. 
 Jakethemuss wrote:
Can't believe they wrote a song glorifying such a rightwing newspaper.  Should follow this with "Mirror in the Bathroom" for some political balance.

 
Telegraph Road.
 Jakethemuss wrote:
Can't believe they wrote a song glorifying such a rightwing newspaper.  Should follow this with "Mirror in the Bathroom" for some political balance.

 
{#Roflol}  Now remind me again, is the sun around?
Can't believe they wrote a song glorifying such a rightwing newspaper.  Should follow this with "Mirror in the Bathroom" for some political balance.
Runs to get his Rattus Norvegicus
Always a TEN !
 
 jab49 wrote:
Kind of "pop punk". 

 
This is much more pop than punk. The Stranglers did do punk songs though, but that was before they did poppy songs like this. None of those punk songs are in the RP-playlist. They were quite good as punk as well as a pop band actually.
Has this song ever been out of regular rotation? (At least what passes for "regular" on RP.) It gets me going every time I hear it. Yay!
One of my favorite ear worms...
Kind of "pop punk". Don't fret over the repetitive verse - pop is like that, so when you have a catchy tune, maximise it. This particular mix isn't what I'm used to hearing on commercial radio, and it does overdo the repetition somewhat.
I liked this song until the relentless repeating of "there's always the sun" occurred...went from 7 - 3 before the song ended
Vocals remind me of Lou Reed.  And now after having read a few comments, I see I am not alone.

In any event, if this is 'punk', I like it!   {#Cheesygrin} 
 leathepea wrote:
Must have run out lyrics for this one...

 
must have run out OF lyrics for this one ....

You are what you say! 
 NicJohn wrote{#Cheesygrin}
Three words only?  

 
Men in Black {#Cheesygrin}
Three words only?  
 Kaisersosay wrote:

Its not that bad,,,,,,

 
It's quite good!
 Carl wrote:
Nice! Hard to believe that this is the same band that gave us "Golden Brown"! This seems such a different style. I must like The Stranglers!

 
Not to mention Skin Deep
 kcar wrote:

Oh. My. God: a seriously good mariachi version of "Golden Brown" with Hugh Cornwell singing, perhaps better than ever. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy8Y3R4dXyc 

 
Thank you!
 MrsTom wrote:
Oi oi - who thought the twangly guitar and beatbox was a good idea

 
Its not that bad,,,,,,
Love the sound production. But then it's from the late 80's when everything sounded great.
Oi oi - who thought the twangly guitar and beatbox was a good idea
 Derk_Decibel wrote:

Not this one ... 
This is a remake or albumversion?
The original single sounds better !

 
The version on this is album is a live performance. The clip on Amazon resembles what I'm hearing here...

Oh. My. God: a seriously good mariachi version of "Golden Brown" with Hugh Cornwell singing, perhaps better than ever. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy8Y3R4dXyc 
Still Godlike.  Right up there with Mozart !!

 
Must have run out lyrics for this one...

 lemmoth wrote:

WTF this is a Strangler's song.....what original?

 
Not this one ... 
This is a remake or albumversion?
The original single sounds better !


Love this song
 msymmes wrote:
My favourite Stranglers but the original is better.

 

 
WTF this is a Strangler's song.....what original?
So let's see if I've got this straight.....there's always the sun.......do I have this straight?

Thinking the same thing. Nice!
 
So let's see if I've got this straight.....there's always the sun.......do I have this straight?
Que'n in the backyard listening to my favorite station in the world....RP....
 
One of my fave song!
Starts off quite nice, but quickly becomes annoyingly repetitive. Every thirty seconds I gritted my teeth and lowered it another point.
 kcar wrote:
Love this song but I prefer the original version...

 
agreed {#Bounce}
 AGREED {#Music}msymmes wrote:
My favourite Stranglers but the original is better.

 

 


That's what makes it a masterpiece !

 

Alafia wrote:
This song is very repetitive.

 

 


This is just such an ELEVEN it is not funny!

 
This song is very repetitive.

 
whoah, that song was pretty terrible. were there any lyrics other than "there's always the sun" . . . struggled not to give it a 1, try to reserve that for songs that leave me significantly worse off for having heard.
"Too Much" version. PSD!
President of USA!
Bill G for Prime Minister !
 

meuks wrote:
Great band. Great history. Great tune. Go RP!!!

 


My favourite Stranglers but the original is better.

 
Love this song but I prefer the original version...
haven't heard this in a very long time - takes me back to happy times too..
Classic!  OMG 28 years ago!
Hugh and guys innovated in so many ways.  Artistically they really made you take notice. Way ahead of the crowd back then. Thanks RP for always surprising. 
Lyric mistake: 

How many times has the weatherman told you stories that made you laugh?


I believe the line as sung is:

How many times has the government told you stories that made you laugh? 

Which would seem to make sense, in the context of the next line:

You know it's not up to the politicians and the leaders, when they do things by half
Nice! Hard to believe that this is the same band that gave us "Golden Brown"! This seems such a different style. I must like The Stranglers!
Thank you - not their best effort but I'll take it.  RP could really dig deeper into the Stranglers catalog for far better gems.  "Bring on the Nubiles!"
Great segue Bill {#Jump}!
 ckcotton wrote:
Why doesn't Lou Reed get mentioned in the credits... that HAS to be him singing, no?

 
I thought for sure it was Lou Reed as well when the song first started. Similar style at the beginning.
 Proclivities wrote:

It doesn't sound like Lou Reed at all to me.  For one thing, he does not have an English accent.
 
lol
Sooooo annoying.........
 meuks wrote:
Great band. Great history. Great tune. Go RP!!!
 
 

"The Warmth of the Sun"

kingart wrote:
Jonathan Edwards 'Sunshine'. 
Santana 'Just in Time to See the Sun'
Chicago 'Wake up Sunshine'
Donovan 'Sunshine Superman'
Cream 'Sunsbine of Your Love'

But I can't find a Beach Boys tune with 'sun' in the title.
 
 


This never fails to put me right back in that place, that time and there is always the sun.
Great segue,  Bill!      (from George Harrison's "Here Comes the Sun")

That's one of the great things about RP, a real human DJ who knows his music!
Love the Stranglers but usually get stuck in the early period.  This sounds great as if I am hearing it for the first time.
Love it! Brings back wonderful memories. Thank you.
Great band. Great history. Great tune. Go RP!!!

Just sent this to a TEN imho.
 
 ckcotton wrote:
Why doesn't Lou Reed get mentioned in the credits... that HAS to be him singing, no?
 
It doesn't sound like Lou Reed at all to me.  For one thing, Lou Reed does not have an English accent.
Far less dull than trying to debug code.
Keeping my spirits up on a dull Monday afternoon in the UK.
Boy...this is supremely dull. I do kinda like the chorus...but it certainly doesn't make up for the boring rest.
Jonathan Edwards 'Sunshine'. 
Santana 'Just in Time to See the Sun'
Chicago 'Wake up Sunshine'
Donovan 'Sunshine Superman'
Cream 'Sunsbine of Your Love'

But I can't find a Beach Boys tune with 'sun' in the title.
 
Ok, now I'm leaving. Work done........I worked hard and didn't break a sweat. 

Great song...
 The_Enemy wrote:

I dunno. It does have a bit of an 80s sound but it's not problem for me. I'm not going to disqualify something because it sounds a bit like its era. We'll be trashing the 60s next.

I remember this as being a solid album. It wasn't setting the world on fire but there were no bad tracks or filler. I'd give the whole album a 7 
   You are right, dont diss anything, just beause its "period" sound,,,,,Hey,,,its the way it was then :)

be happy all the time,,and I hope,,always with the sun :)

Love this!
I know this song is simple and many Stranglers fans probably hate it because it represents such a divergence from their earlier material (which I also like), but this song always makes me smile. Always loved it, always will. That's a 9, folks!
 jimj wrote:
boring.....
 
So are your trite comments.
I miss the music of those times.. {#Daisy}
Why doesn't Lou Reed get mentioned in the credits... that HAS to be him singing, no?
Haven't heard this in, gee, decades. Very '80s in a St. Elmo's Fire kind of way. But better. Lots of audio tricks. A bit repetitive but cool hooks. A lousy name for the band that no doubt did not roll off tongues.  The Strangers? The Stringers? The Spanglers? 
Nice segue from a live version of "Here Comes the Sun"...
"The Stranglers".... is that an invitation?
I enjoyed this back in the day. The first 4-5 tracks were always non-skipable, especially this and Ghost Train.
 scraig wrote:
not holding up well
 
I dunno. It does have a bit of an 80s sound but it's not problem for me. I'm not going to disqualify something because it sounds a bit like its era. We'll be trashing the 60s next.

I remember this as being a solid album. It wasn't setting the world on fire but there were no bad tracks or filler. I'd give the whole album a 7 
 andy_pomus wrote:
I started to listen to this song after i met the love of my life...{#Daisy}
 
Awww, that's so sweet... {#Cheers}  I hope you can always feel that sense of appreciation. A little bit of joy can go a long way....

I bumped this from 7 to 8, just because it's making me happy today.  {#Meditate}
Wow! this started playing on my iphone by itself......spooky.....are they sending me a message here :)
 jimj wrote:
boring.....
 
so. 

Cruzan wrote:

Here comes the sun
then
Always the sun,

want to take bets that "sound of sunshine" is right around the corner?

 Jamunca wrote:
Sunshine of Your Love seems like a dark horse.
 
How about Fat Old Sun? {#Ask}
boring.....
I started to listen to this song after i met the love of my life...{#Daisy}
Brings back many fine memories {#Kiss}
LOVE!!!
What a trip in the Way-Back Machine. Yes to the 80's. A time with less homework! But this song is helping me get it done!{#Bananapiano}
There's Always the Sun - or the Times, or Sky, or Fox or anything else Murdoch can get his filthy hands on.

 parrothead wrote:
It has the sound of the 80's Oh it is from the 80's
 
not holding up well
 mikexican wrote:
It's BOTH.

 
1wolfy wrote:
This has a 'Floyd' ring to it...or is it pet shop boys  {#Stupid}
 
 
Pet Floyd?
Pink Shop Boys?

 Cruzan wrote:
Here comes the sun
then
Always the sun,

want to take bets that "sound of sunshine" is right around the corner?
 
Sunshine of Your Love seems like a dark horse.

It's BOTH.

 
1wolfy wrote:
This has a 'Floyd' ring to it...or is it pet shop boys  {#Stupid}
 


Here comes the sun
then
Always the sun,

want to take bets that "sound of sunshine" is right around the corner?
This is a great song, from a weird band. I never got how they existed in so many different musical spaces, but this is a good space for them. 
For any British motorcyclists out there... Triumph's Hinckley factory is celebrating their 20 year anniversary on Sept. 18th at Mallory Park.  The Stranglers will be playing to help them celebrate... oh how I wish I could be there!

The Stranglers - Always the Sun
Kasabian - Where Did All The Love Go?
Sonic Youth - New Hampshire

These three songs, one after another, set up a groove that would keep me going for a long, long time and not feel the pain. Thanks, Bill&Rebecca! {#Dancingbanana_2}
Not at night...
8-9....Well, almost always....


Who gets the job
Of pushing the knob?


This has a 'Floyd' ring to it...or is it pet shop boys  {#Stupid}