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Equation — Mother and Child
Album: The Lucky Few
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Released: 1999
Length: 4:25
Plays (last 30 days): 1
It was in the month of January and the hills were deep with snow
When over hills and valleys my true love he did go
It was there I spied a pretty young girl with a salt tear in her eye
She held a baby in her arms and bitterly did cry.
How cruel was my father to bar the door on me
And how cruel was my mother this dreadful crime to see
And how cruel was my own true love to forsake my love for gold
And how cruel was that winters` night that pierced my heart with cold.
For the taller that the palm tree grows the sweeter is the bark
And the fairer that a young man speaks the falser is his heart
He will kiss you and embrace you `til he thinks that he has won
Then he`ll go away and leave you all for another one.
I`ll go to the lonely valley and on my knees I`ll fall
And there unto Almighty God for mercy I will call
She kissed her baby`s cold white lips and she laid him by her side
Then she raised her eyes to heaven and both lay down and died.
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EXCELLENT TUNE!  Spooky album cover.  Thanx RP!   
 xkolibuul wrote:

A pox on iTunes for not carrying this tune...grrr.


A pox on iTube
 daedalus wrote:

The fiddle style definitely sounds influenced by Dave Swarbrick of Fairport convention.
Good stuff ! A breath of fresh air. 



interesting insight, thanks. 
Just a great band that came and went before I got a chance to hear anything from them.  Thanks RP!
I have always loved the way that this uplifting song makes me feel. The arrangment is impeccable, the singing reminds me of a British-style Stevie Nicks, and the fine fiddling sends me to Celtic Heaven. Thanks, RP, for peppering my days and nights with tasty soundscapes for every mood and season!
I like the sound of these folks. Shoot me!
 kbs wrote:
Pleasant, but lacking the edge that Fairport, Steeleye (early, before they became less subtle!) and the Dransfields have for me. The sound is  a little muddy and the rhythm section could do with Dave Mattocks' percussion rather than the rather staid and strict beat. Nearly there but not quite - intrigued me to find more and it is hard to locate!
 
I'm not a fan of Dave Mattacks - he drags rather than propels.  Much prefer Michael Jerome (Richard Thompson's touring drummer).
Pleasant, but lacking the edge that Fairport, Steeleye (early, before they became less subtle!) and the Dransfields have for me. The sound is  a little muddy and the rhythm section could do with Dave Mattocks' percussion rather than the rather staid and strict beat. Nearly there but not quite - intrigued me to find more and it is hard to locate!
How about "Mother and Child"!....by Dezarie.....Reggae!
It seems Texas ...
 Cy wrote:
Originally Posted by erik_j: I'm gonna give this one a 7!
I'm gonna give it a 9! :)
 

OK a little give & take then...8 it is!
I may have said this already, but...yum.
Very nice. Has a bit of a Mellencamp feel in the instrumentation. Too bad not available via Apple Music.
 richlister wrote:
Mother + child = one happy father X 6 beers (that's an equation)

 
Read the lyrics that have been posted since your comment and you will change your mind!
 paultron wrote:


(lyrics now posted above. thanks! -bg)

 
And...yikes!  Don't let the rollicking  instrumentation fool you.
LIKE.
Quite likeable. GREAT COVER!!!!
Methinks Bill likes violins
Reminds me of "The Tansads"
 martinc wrote:
Nice tune, good fiddle player, nice guitar interaction and good vocals. 

 
Absolutely, on all counts.  Overall rating is far too low, I feel.  These Bristol ears like it a lot.
 TotalHip wrote:
Have always enjoyed both albums I have.
 
Much wisdom do you offer, Master Yoda.
 MikeInMi wrote:
This is something of a folk collective group featuring Kate Rusby and Kathyrn Roberts, both of whom have had extensive solo careers, and put out an album/CD together in 1995.  I'm thrilled to see them here, but not surprised given the content that's been the hallmark of this site.  Thanks, Bill and Rebecca.
 

 
Thanks for the insight, Mike. 
Absolutely brilliant. Another gem found in Radio Paradise!
Have always enjoyed both albums I have. Look also for recordings from fiddle player Seth Lakeman.

ScottishWillie wrote:
I love this kind electric folk. Is the whole album this good?
 


I love this kind electric folk. Is the whole album this good?
This is something of a folk collective group featuring Kate Rusby and Kathyrn Roberts, both of whom have had extensive solo careers, and put out an album/CD together in 1995.  I'm thrilled to see them here, but not surprised given the content that's been the hallmark of this site.  Thanks, Bill and Rebecca.
 
A pox on iTunes for not carrying this tune...grrr.
Great!
 mgp22 wrote:
Does anyone know the lyrics to this song?  My ears are bad - I am terrible at discerning them!  Also, the lyrics to "The Prize," also on this album.  Thanks!
 

(lyrics now posted above. thanks! -bg)
Great band.
Very catchy! I like it...'course it has fiddle in it...
Mother + child = one happy father X 6 beers (that's an equation)
Does anyone know the lyrics to this song?  My ears are bad - I am terrible at discerning them!  Also, the lyrics to "The Prize," also on this album.  Thanks!
I got the album on the strength of this track, and it's getting played to death in the car.  Bill, please add "Autumn Tune" to the playlist while you're at it.
Love the fiddle on this one.
Really good, has a groove that won't stop-Very nice Bill
Wow, coulda sworn this was Margo from Cowboy Junkies.
 Cynaera wrote:
It hit me just right tonight - bumping from 7 to 8. {#Mrgreen}
 
You are so cool., Cynaera.....{#Whipit}
It hit me just right tonight - bumping from 7 to 8. {#Mrgreen}
This is new to me... sounds good
The fiddle style definitely sounds influenced by Dave Swarbrick of Fairport convention.
Good stuff ! A breath of fresh air. 
I was thinking this was Grey Eye Glances...

 
Tim_in_N_FL wrote:

Yes! I too hear the influence and Kathryn Roberts' vocals are reminiscent of Debra Holland's from Animal Logic. 

 


Okay man, found it: "Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore" Paul Brady—exact same tune. Beautiful tune, maybe used for a few different old songs.

One of the great disappointments of my short life, is this group did not put out more albums  {#Cry}
To me, Cowboy Junkies-ish, with a little Natalie Merchant thrown in.
Okay - no distractions this time.  I really do LIKE this song - especially the fiddle. It lends a rustic, earthy quality to the music and the vocals.  Solid 7 from me.{#Sunny}
{#Clap} Cynaera wrote:
I'm sorry - I was distracted with a very deep e-mail, but I caught myself rocking to this song as I was trying to keep someone from making a very bad decision.  Apparently, the music worked on me, because I came up with good words, and the person in question seems willing to get some counseling.  We'll see how effective it all was... Like the song - what I heard of it....{#Embarassed}
 


I'm sorry - I was distracted with a very deep e-mail, but I caught myself rocking to this song as I was trying to keep someone from making a very bad decision.  Apparently, the music worked on me, because I came up with good words, and the person in question seems willing to get some counseling.  We'll see how effective it all was... Like the song - what I heard of it....{#Embarassed}
Amazing!

(that she can enunciate at all while forcing 90% of her voice through her left nostril) 
yes it is a lot like "She Moved thru the Fair" it might be the same tune—-tho I can't hear the tune as well as I'd like to, maybe her song is low in the mix like the audiophiles are saying.
did you know Bob Dylan used tunes straight from Old British Isles songs and just changed all the words? "Nottamun Town" = "Masters of War" pretty interesting.

This really rocks! LOVE the fiddle
Worth more than 6.5.
And She can sing...........



I do like a bit of Folk Rock. 
 squarepixel wrote:
Reminds a bit of Animal Logic. Maybe I should upload some of their stuff.
 
Yes! I too hear the influence and Kathryn Roberts' vocals are reminiscent of Debra Holland's from Animal Logic. 

Nice tune, good fiddle player, nice guitar interaction and good vocals. 
I would love for her to do my voice mail greeting message...{#Cool}

This tune is rather reminiscent of "She Moved Through the Fair", at least in some parts and to my old ears.
GGendeman wrote:
Two words -- Fairport Convention This is really good folk-rock
Definitely rather Fairport-y. I like it.
alux wrote:
And...your point? There's been over 30 years and a whole river of celtic-accented folk-rock fusion between FC and Equation, and this vocalist does not exactly channel Sandy Denny. FC did indeed kick this all off, along with Steeleye Span, Jethro Tull, and others I am assuredly overlooking. Was that your point? Anyway, this is indeed really good.
it was all replica dada
K'aas ool xiipaal, u'uyej, ba'ax teen mun meyaj a xiikini'? A little Maya. Fido dude, listen up, whether you like them or not, Equation sounds NOTHING like CJ. I'm amazed you can't notice that. superfido wrote:
Errr BlÀÀÀÀ Va fan detta låt suger realt. A little swedish I really hate all these different cowboy junky wanna be s . The sound got boring with them. Why so many others? Who knows.
I haven't heard this. very cool I think
And...your point? There's been over 30 years and a whole river of celtic-accented folk-rock fusion between FC and Equation, and this vocalist does not exactly channel Sandy Denny. FC did indeed kick this all off, along with Steeleye Span, Jethro Tull, and others I am assuredly overlooking. Was that your point? Anyway, this is indeed really good. GGendeman wrote:
Two words -- Fairport Convention This is really good folk-rock
Really fine musicianship. Look forward to hearing more from them...
My Amazon.com wish list is expanding to enormous proportions thanks to RP. Here is one more added to the "must have" list!
audiozeb wrote:
Her wonderful Sandy Denny flavoured voice could be up front a bit more in the mix, and yeah I hear a bit of digital processing on it. The drums are definitely "big rock drums". But I still like the song. BTW I would bet cash money that Mitchell Froom uses classic mics and classic pre-amps like those found in vintage Neve consoles and records to tape whenever he can. Probably only goes to digital to edit and then in the mastering stage. Blah Blah Blah. Sorry, tech geek.
No, I think it's interesting. You may be right, because I read somewhere Richard Thompson doesn't like digital reverb, for instance and prefers to use real acoustics.
Equation!?! I love this place! They do a killer version of the old folk tune "The Cuckoo's Nest." (And when they're through with it, there is no way you can't know what they mean)
i just bought this album and hazy daze and am LOVING this band! thanks, RP!
>>anyone else noticed that the melody is a complete rip-off of the traditional folk song 'She Moved Through The Fair' ? The melody is medieval (probably, though no-one knows for sure).
This is ok...but kind of boring. It needs something else.
squarepixel wrote:
Reminds a bit of Animal Logic. Maybe I should upload some of their stuff.
Or another "Animal" band...Baby Animals. She also has a voice like the lead singer from the Divinyls. Nice.
Originally Posted by matmeister: Anyone else noticed that the melody is a complete rip-off of the traditional folk song 'She Moved Through The Fair' ?
This is ANOTHER traditional folk tune, so if it is a ripoff, the theft actually happened centuries ago. Can't blame Equation.
Originally Posted by Johray63: I ques she's got a warm sounding voice, but that gets lost in the way its recorded. The digital age doesn't really suit this sort of folkmusic, though it does suit Richard Thompson, on the other hand, but he's more renewing and got someone like Michell Froom to produce his albums.
Her wonderful Sandy Denny flavoured voice could be up front a bit more in the mix, and yeah I hear a bit of digital processing on it. The drums are definitely "big rock drums". But I still like the song. BTW I would bet cash money that Mitchell Froom uses classic mics and classic pre-amps like those found in vintage Neve consoles and records to tape whenever he can. Probably only goes to digital to edit and then in the mastering stage. Blah Blah Blah. Sorry, tech geek.
Two words -- Fairport Convention This is really good folk-rock
Errr BlÀÀÀÀ Va fan detta låt suger realt. A little swedish I really hate all these different cowboy junky wanna be s . The sound got boring with them. Why so many others? Who knows.
Reminds a bit of Animal Logic. Maybe I should upload some of their stuff.
Originally Posted by 2clfrwrds: Yes, me too. The music industry moguls who want to smother internet radio are self-destructive.
One thing is for certain, they are hazardous to our musical "health" ...
I\'m quite happy to see folk-rock going in this direction. Definitely on the list of CDs to buy. :)
I guess she's got a warm sounding voice, but that gets lost in the way it's recorded. The digital age and rock influences don't always serve folkmusic.
I quess she\'s got a warm sounding voice, but that gets lost in the way its recorded. The digital age doesn\'t really suit this sort of folkmusic, though it does suit Richard Thompson, on the other hand, but he\'s more renewing and got someone like Michell Froom to produce his albums.
Rate the Hit!! I dunno Dick, I give it an 88, it\'s got a beat, you can dance to it. Samiyam ;)
This song works really well.
very good folk-rock.
Originally Posted by erik_j: I'm gonna give this one a 7!
I'm gonna give it a 9! :)
I\'ve heard this now a few times and the more I hear it the more I like it. The posts about it being \"country\" crack me up. I may get flamed but to call this country you must have a very narrow view of music. Sorry. This is just plain and simply a great tune - a little on the folk-rock side but that just makes it all the more appealing. Been thinking about getting the CD. Is the rest of the CD like this tune?