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Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 10:46pm

Rescinding their campaign lies promises before they even set foot in the building. But it fooled most of the people some of the time, didn't it?

Elon Musk says DOGE probably won’t find $2 trillion in federal budget cuts


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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 7:23pm

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Good luck with that.  I remember when it happened and his explanation.  Not worried.
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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 6:52pm

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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 12:00pm

 Isabeau wrote:

 the policy of:  OH LOOK! A SQUIRREL!


Trump still has the mindset of being the host of "The Apprentice." He's trying to entertain and keep his ratings up. 

I think Trump knows that a lot of his popularity has to do with his ability to stay in the news and say crazy/offbeat/provocative things. His supporters think he's funny, refreshing, down-to-earth, no-BS guy. 

They don't care if he breaks the law. They want to see him get away with it. He's an anti-hero. 
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 9:14am

 Steely_D wrote:


It’s all a distraction, like Panama. The real issues are health care, food deserts, infrastructure, education. If the president isn’t working on that, then he’s not doing his job. 


Like most of the stuff that leaks out of his head, though, there's a germ of an idea in there. Shouldn't be front and center, you're right, but in 2100 we'll be happy to have Denmark as a friendly ally, growing barley and hops and stuff on what used to be an ice sheet. 
Isabeau

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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 9:02am

 Steely_D wrote:


It’s all a distraction, like Panama. The real issues are health care, food deserts, infrastructure, education. If the president isn’t working on that, then he’s not doing his job. 

 the policy of:  OH LOOK! A SQUIRREL!
rgio

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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 8:41am

 Steely_D wrote:
It’s all a distraction, like Panama. The real issues are health care, food deserts, infrastructure, education. If the president isn’t working on that, then he’s not doing his job. 

He's got the best people working on the little stuff.

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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 8:35am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Correct. Greenland will have a lot of arable land in our lifetime. Probably prone to flooding but it would still be worth investigating. Maybe a smart person would have advanced the idea quietly, in such a way as to not make the current occupant aware that they're being talked about.

If there was a "loose lips sink ships" mentality anymore, Trump would have been chucked overboard—near Greenland.


It’s all a distraction, like Panama. The real issues are health care, food deserts, infrastructure, education. If the president isn’t working on that, then he’s not doing his job. 
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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 8:21am

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It should not be a “discussion” by tweet 

Correct. Greenland will have a lot of arable land in our lifetime. Probably prone to flooding but it would still be worth investigating. Maybe a smart person would have advanced the idea quietly, in such a way as to not make the current occupant aware that they're being talked about.

If there was a "loose lips sink ships" mentality anymore, Trump would have been chucked overboard—near Greenland.
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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 6:28am

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Meanwhile, Senator Fetterman of Pennsylvania (D) thinks talking about buying Greenland is a conversation worth having
.

SEN. JOHN FETTERMAN (D-PA): Like, there's a lot of talk about Greenland, for example. And I know there's a lot of freak-outs, you know, and of course I would never support taking it by force. But I do think it's a responsible conversation if they were open to acquiring it and, you know, whether just buying it outright.

I mean, if anyone thinks that's bonkers, it's like, well, remember the Louisiana purchase? I think Alaska was a pretty great deal, too. $50 million, I think it was, it was referred to as Seward's Folly.

And now that was Alaska now. So, I mean, you know, open to having all kinds of conversations as well. And now, I don't think we, it's not helpful to freak out, but some things might work out, some may not.

But that's part of ongoing dialogue. But he hasn't even taken office in two weeks. And, you know, we really need to pace ourselves if we're going to freak out over every last tweet or every last conversation or press conference.

SEN. KATIE BRITT (R-AL): That's a good one, John. I like it. I like it.

FETTERMAN: Yeah, but I mean, it's like, you know, we are here to work together. And some things you can agree or disagree, but I think that's how D.C. works.


The disparities in Fetterman's analogies are that the Louisiana Purchase and Alaska were offered for sale to the U.S. by the governments of France and Russia respectively. Denmark has repeatedly stated that Greenland is not for sale.
However, he is right about how unproductive it is to freak out about every tweet or statement.
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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 5:55am

 steeler wrote:
The problem with this analysis is a discussion of this sort — if serious — should be had in private between the United States officials and those of Denmark and Greenland. It should not be a “discussion” by tweet or press conference.

It's important to note that Fetterman is a Democrat from the heart of MAGA PA.  Fetterman is playing word games to appease the locals.  Don't criticize Trump... social media picks it up as support... magaverse likey. 

Ask any MAGA loyalist and Trump is a business God.  Your point is spot on... in what universe does it make sense to tweat that your interested in buying something before you have made serious overtures to the current owner, and those discussions have likely failed.  If we found out that there was a strategic discussion behind closed doors that went nowhere... OK.  But that's not how this happened.  It's all an attempt to look strategic the moment the idea hits Trump...either on his own or because one of the minions suggested it.


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Posted: Jan 9, 2025 - 2:58am

 kurtster wrote:

Meanwhile, Senator Fetterman of Pennsylvania (D) thinks talking about buying Greenland is a conversation worth having
.

SEN. JOHN FETTERMAN (D-PA): Like, there's a lot of talk about Greenland, for example. And I know there's a lot of freak-outs, you know, and of course I would never support taking it by force. But I do think it's a responsible conversation if they were open to acquiring it and, you know, whether just buying it outright.

I mean, if anyone thinks that's bonkers, it's like, well, remember the Louisiana purchase? I think Alaska was a pretty great deal, too. $50 million, I think it was, it was referred to as Seward's Folly.

And now that was Alaska now. So, I mean, you know, open to having all kinds of conversations as well. And now, I don't think we, it's not helpful to freak out, but some things might work out, some may not.

But that's part of ongoing dialogue. But he hasn't even taken office in two weeks. And, you know, we really need to pace ourselves if we're going to freak out over every last tweet or every last conversation or press conference.

SEN. KATIE BRITT (R-AL): That's a good one, John. I like it. I like it.

FETTERMAN: Yeah, but I mean, it's like, you know, we are here to work together. And some things you can agree or disagree, but I think that's how D.C. works.



The problem with this analysis is a discussion of this sort — if serious — should be had in private between the United States officials and those of Denmark and Greenland. It should not be a “discussion” by tweet or press conference. And it certainly should not include a public statement suggesting the use of force or economic coercion. To me, all this from Trump means he is making these statements for show. The whole MAGA thing where allies are peons who do not matter and should do as they are told. Either that or more evidence that he is a loose cannon. Or both.




kurtster

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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 10:15pm

Meanwhile, Senator Fetterman of Pennsylvania (D) thinks talking about buying Greenland is a conversation worth having
.

SEN. JOHN FETTERMAN (D-PA): Like, there's a lot of talk about Greenland, for example. And I know there's a lot of freak-outs, you know, and of course I would never support taking it by force. But I do think it's a responsible conversation if they were open to acquiring it and, you know, whether just buying it outright.

I mean, if anyone thinks that's bonkers, it's like, well, remember the Louisiana purchase? I think Alaska was a pretty great deal, too. $50 million, I think it was, it was referred to as Seward's Folly.

And now that was Alaska now. So, I mean, you know, open to having all kinds of conversations as well. And now, I don't think we, it's not helpful to freak out, but some things might work out, some may not.

But that's part of ongoing dialogue. But he hasn't even taken office in two weeks. And, you know, we really need to pace ourselves if we're going to freak out over every last tweet or every last conversation or press conference.

SEN. KATIE BRITT (R-AL): That's a good one, John. I like it. I like it.

FETTERMAN: Yeah, but I mean, it's like, you know, we are here to work together. And some things you can agree or disagree, but I think that's how D.C. works.

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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 5:19pm

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As in "There has been another huge oil spill in the Gulf of America."
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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 4:15pm

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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 1:49pm

The Gulf of Freedom Fries


Plenty of "Freedom Fries energy" jokes on BlueSky.
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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 12:47pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


Dunno why, but this did in fact make me laugh hysterically. 


Me too, I just keep thinking of it as a response - "what? you said you wanted cheaper eggs, what did you mean?"
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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 12:41pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Dunno why, but this did in fact make me laugh hysterically. 
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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 12:26pm

 haresfur wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
Yes he could. I'm sure the expense of doing so would be fine with his government efficiency team
 
He can change what the US calls it, not the rest of the planet. The rest of the planet will simply laugh hysterically.
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Posted: Jan 8, 2025 - 12:25pm

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