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islander

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Posted: Sep 10, 2026 - 7:33pm

 Steely_D wrote:

$5000? You can be bought that easily? SMH

270 million times $5,000 equals 1.35 trillion which will bring the US national debt to 41.35 trillion. Republicans are OK with this? 



Republicans have not been serious about fiscal responsibility since.... Agnew maybe?  They talked a good game, but the record shows differently. Look who was in power when the debt took off.

In fairness: the Democrats pretty much said "hold my (Billy) beer" and climbed on board.

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Posted: Sep 10, 2026 - 8:12am

 Steely_D wrote:

$5000? You can be bought that easily? SMH

270 million times $5,000 equals 1.35 trillion which will bring the US national debt to 41.35 trillion. Republicans are OK with this? 



the ad writes itself. An auction with your vote up for bid. Throw some shots of Musk in there and you've got gold. 
rgio

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Posted: Sep 10, 2026 - 4:50am

 islander wrote:
April, 2016: 

"The campaign is evolving and transitioning, and so am I," he told the Wall Street Journal. "I'll be more effective and more disciplined."

Trump put it another way during a Thursday morning appearance on NBC's Today Show. "I will be so presidential," he said, "you will be so bored. You'll say, 'Can't he have a little more energy?'"

Still waiting. I'm starting to think he didn't mean it.

It's all a matter of perspective.  He probably feels like he's hamstrung by not being able to do whatever he thinks up...although lake America might beg to differ.

Socialists are coming to ruin America.... but if we win everyone gets $5,000, and we're going to give a tax credit of $9,000 per year for families with a stay-at-home parent?  Welfare queens... if you can't beat 'em, be 'em.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2026 - 4:49am

$5000? You can be bought that easily? SMH

270 million times $5,000 equals 1.35 trillion which will bring the US national debt to 41.35 trillion. Republicans are OK with this? 
islander

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Posted: Sep 10, 2026 - 3:58am

 Steely_D wrote:


Still waiting on those $2000 checks that were promised, as well as the replacement for Obamacare.


April, 2016: 


"The campaign is evolving and transitioning, and so am I," he told the Wall Street Journal. "I'll be more effective and more disciplined."

Trump put it another way during a Thursday morning appearance on NBC's Today Show. "I will be so presidential," he said, "you will be so bored. You'll say, 'Can't he have a little more energy?'"



Still waiting. I'm starting to think he didn't mean it.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2026 - 3:40am

 black321 wrote:

It hit me, we aren’t even halfway there yet. 
WTF is next?  

Trump Promises Americans $5,000 Each if Republicans Win Midterms

The president asked voters to pretend he is on the ballot in a speech on the first night of the GOP's midterm convention in Dallas




Still waiting on those $2000 checks that were promised, as well as the replacement for Obamacare.
islander

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Posted: Sep 9, 2026 - 9:19pm

 black321 wrote:

It hit me, we aren’t even halfway there yet. 
WTF is next?  

Trump Promises Americans $5,000 Each if Republicans Win Midterms

The president asked voters to pretend he is on the ballot in a speech on the first night of the GOP's midterm convention in Dallas




There is no floor. Anyone standing behind this party deserves the shame that will come from it forever. I'll never consider a criticism from anyone who isn't screaming about this.
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Posted: Sep 9, 2026 - 9:10pm

It hit me, we aren’t even halfway there yet. 
WTF is next?  

Trump Promises Americans $5,000 Each if Republicans Win Midterms

The president asked voters to pretend he is on the ballot in a speech on the first night of the GOP's midterm convention in Dallas


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Posted: Sep 9, 2026 - 10:47am

‘Fat b*tches’: Videos reveal the extent of GOP candidate’s crude sexual remarks
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Posted: Aug 2, 2026 - 10:50am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
He's like that. Remember these guys were exonerated - and he never apologized for this Senile Old Man outburst

and then the GOP looked around and said, "Yeah, he's most representative of our values. Gobble gooble one of us! Let's have him lead the party!"

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Posted: Aug 2, 2026 - 10:23am

He also wants to execute the parents/guardians of transgender people
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Posted: Jul 31, 2026 - 4:26pm


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Posted: Jul 26, 2026 - 2:40pm


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Posted: Jul 23, 2026 - 9:28am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I can't wait until there is enough outrage to push these people back under their rock. Of course, they will scream of the irony that they are being oppressed, but they are just assholes.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2026 - 7:56am

Shock as GOP leader moans that history's 'oppressors' don't get celebrated
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Posted: Jul 15, 2026 - 8:24pm

 Steely_D wrote:


It was painful to support Hillary (winner! The people’s choice!) knowing that our history books would show Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton as our presidencies. That just looks like there’s nothing but dynasties going on there.



Probably not a coincidence that was also the era of sequels and remakes. New ideas are hard.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2026 - 7:39pm

 islander wrote:


Agreed, that was just me being sloppy entering the conversation and avoiding a certain someone.




So.  Your contempt for me has become so all encompassing that you now feel the need to explain what you are trying to say because you doubt your own ability to be make sense or be meaningful.  Pity.  Self doubt is a horrible thing to deal with.  But that is the road you chose to take with you being the self appointed arbiter of truth and last word on what I might say.

Worse for you is the rent in your head is free.  You need to get back into your stash of Pixie Dust.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2026 - 2:21pm

 islander wrote:


Also, still wrong. I have no problem saying that instead of "well they are doing it too, so we should just do the wrong thing".

Even with being elected, this shows how power concentrates. We don't have kings, but we seem to have dynasties - Bushes, Kenedys, ect.  And we have these whole power structures that get stood up around elected officials that become a fiefdom with influence and resource to maintain itself. Feinstein, Pelosi, McConnel... They stay too long because the draw is so strong and the grip is so powerful. These are the things we need to be working on. Not sure how, especially considering the abuse of power that we seem to be willing to tolerate if it favors 'our team'. More and more a revolution seems necessary. 


It was painful to support Hillary (winner! The people’s choice!) knowing that our history books would show Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton as our presidencies. That just looks like there’s nothing but dynasties going on there.

islander

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Posted: Jul 15, 2026 - 11:56am

 rgio wrote:

Feature, not bug.

The current administration, with the help of the SCOTUS, are pushing for more and more money without disclosure.  People need to elect representatives who will work for them... yet so few do.  This comes back to an intelligence, education, and critical thinking skills that the administration is also attacking.  Pure insanity.



Unfortunately, money has become a coupon for power fairly universally. It's a bad trend.  Right now representatives are mostly controlling the system so they are effectively electing themselves with an slim/failing illusion of two party choice. Term limits in this situation are about as likely as an epiphany on the failings of gerrymandering or a ban on insider trading. It's not the time, it's the behaviors that need to change. 

I don't know how it started, but the attacks on intelligence and learning have crippled our society. I work with some genuinely talented people in a blue collar environment. I'm astonished at the lengths that smart people will go through not to 'look smart'. So much opportunity lost. 

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Posted: Jul 15, 2026 - 11:19am

 Proclivities wrote:

I wasn't defending or advocating the presence of family "dynasties" in politics, I was pointing out the weak analogy of comparing a governor-appointed family member taking office to one who was elected to that office.


Agreed, that was just me being sloppy entering the conversation and avoiding a certain someone.

Also notable that you are properly calling out while bad, these are not the same. It's not a 'both sides' issue when one side does something mildly bad and the other side disregards democracy entirely. 
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