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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 5:02pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Fantastic news. Whew.

The roads remind me of the ones we were on in remote Iceland, middle of the night, raining, no shoulder and no street lights and almost no gas in the car (literally every warning light including “turn the engine off now”). If we’d really run out, we’d just be sitting dead in the dark in the rain waiting to get rammed by someone going full speed and unable to see us.


whee!
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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 4:59pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It was hard, but yes. The idea sounds so romantic, Ireland, sheeep, seas,... but the lodging was a 15 minute walk along a dangerous road or 30 minutes by dirt/mud through fields. And 30 minutes the other way into town, so the idea of walking to the pub on the weekend was usually tempered by the knowledge that she'd have to walk back in the dark on that narrow road. Over there it's zero shoulder and a rock wall, so you're in the driving lane. So that was kind of a drag. So now she needs to go back and just travel freely.

Art-wise, I think they pushed her to do some stuff she hadn't considered, so yeah that was good. 



Fantastic news. Whew.

The roads remind me of the ones we were on in remote Iceland, middle of the night, raining, no shoulder and no street lights and almost no gas in the car (literally every warning light including “turn the engine off now”). If we’d really run out, we’d just be sitting dead in the dark in the rain waiting to get rammed by someone going full speed and unable to see us.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 3:19pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It was hard, but yes. The idea sounds so romantic, Ireland, sheeep, seas,... but the lodging was a 15 minute walk along a dangerous road or 30 minutes by dirt/mud through fields. And 30 minutes the other way into town, so the idea of walking to the pub on the weekend was usually tempered by the knowledge that she'd have to walk back in the dark on that narrow road. Over there it's zero shoulder and a rock wall, so you're in the driving lane. So that was kind of a drag. So now she needs to go back and just travel freely.

Art-wise, I think they pushed her to do some stuff she hadn't considered, so yeah that was good. 


Yeah...that's a bit of a drag.

Our kids biggest issue was that the bars directly below, left, and up the hill a bit were loud.  Downtown Edinburgh....with trips to Amsterdam and Paris....didn't have the same bucolic feel as a trek through the fields in the dark.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 3:03pm

 kcar wrote:
Did your daughter enjoy her studies in Ireland? Study abroad can be life-changing. 

It was hard, but yes. The idea sounds so romantic, Ireland, sheeep, seas,... but the lodging was a 15 minute walk along a dangerous road or 30 minutes by dirt/mud through fields. And 30 minutes the other way into town, so the idea of walking to the pub on the weekend was usually tempered by the knowledge that she'd have to walk back in the dark on that narrow road. Over there it's zero shoulder and a rock wall, so you're in the driving lane. So that was kind of a drag. So now she needs to go back and just travel freely.

Art-wise, I think they pushed her to do some stuff she hadn't considered, so yeah that was good. 

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 2:32pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


University of Wyoming said:
Upon further analysis, the Admissions Office determined that we can accept credit from Burren College of Art. I have loaded the credit from the transcript to your program. The syllabi are under review, and you will be contacted directly when those determinations are made any determined equivalencies will be updated in the system at that time as well.


So: *breathe* sounds like all is well. She has an Irish Studies course with no equivalency, but might get that credited as Independent Study, but that was always going to be.





 Eggcellent!
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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 2:28pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


University of Wyoming said:
Upon further analysis, the Admissions Office determined that we can accept credit from Burren College of Art. I have loaded the credit from the transcript to your program. The syllabi are under review, and you will be contacted directly when those determinations are made any determined equivalencies will be updated in the system at that time as well.


So: *breathe* sounds like all is well. She has an Irish Studies course with no equivalency, but might get that credited as Independent Study, but that was always going to be.




Fingers crossed. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when people in UW realized they'd screwed up. 

Did your daughter enjoy her studies in Ireland? Study abroad can be life-changing. 
SeriousLee

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 12:43pm

 Steely_D wrote:

One person posting a little bit of nothing in every single forum in the RAFT. So pointless, except to feed their own ego, I suppose. 



One person times four
Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 12:38pm

One person posting a little bit of nothing in every single forum in the RAFT. So pointless, except to feed their own ego, I suppose. 
SeriousLee

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 11:30am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


University of Wyoming said:
Upon further analysis, the Admissions Office determined that we can accept credit from Burren College of Art. I have loaded the credit from the transcript to your program. The syllabi are under review, and you will be contacted directly when those determinations are made any determined equivalencies will be updated in the system at that time as well.


So: *breathe* sounds like all is well. She has an Irish Studies course with no equivalency, but might get that credited as Independent Study, but that was always going to be.




Ok. I think it's safe now to say it...breathe...

Good to hear.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 11:23am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


University of Wyoming said:
Upon further analysis, the Admissions Office determined that we can accept credit from Burren College of Art. I have loaded the credit from the transcript to your program. The syllabi are under review, and you will be contacted directly when those determinations are made any determined equivalencies will be updated in the system at that time as well.


So: *breathe* sounds like all is well. She has an Irish Studies course with no equivalency, but might get that credited as Independent Study, but that was always going to be.





ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 13, 2026 - 10:57am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Earlier this evening I said, "they get paid a lot of money to A) not screw these things up and 2) fix them when they do." Later when she was facetiming with mom, she heard basically the exact same thing. 

I also said that person is being nice and helpful but if things start to go wrong, do NOT hesitate to throw her under the bus. Someone is going to have to say "ah, yep, my mistake" and the easiest, least expensive option is to just accept the credits. They have to prove some academic rigor etc etc but there's no good reason to not accept them. Well, there's one that's Irish History or something that they'll have to allow as independent study or something but the writing and art classes should all transfer no question. 


University of Wyoming said:
Upon further analysis, the Admissions Office determined that we can accept credit from Burren College of Art. I have loaded the credit from the transcript to your program. The syllabi are under review, and you will be contacted directly when those determinations are made any determined equivalencies will be updated in the system at that time as well.


So: *breathe* sounds like all is well. She has an Irish Studies course with no equivalency, but might get that credited as Independent Study, but that was always going to be.


mannixj

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Posted: Mar 12, 2026 - 8:14am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Solid gold right there. Thanks.

Uh, oh... democracy!

- cracere non carcere -

ODIN & THOR with SFW ! ! !

 ...because if Dad doesn't care, who cares?
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 12, 2026 - 8:06am

 rgio wrote:


During the conversation, be sure to mention that without the credits, the most efficient path to a diploma is political science, or something NOT in his/her domain.  Arts and humanities disciplines are dying for headcount validation, and every student lost puts their department at greater risk.




Solid gold right there. Thanks.
mannixj

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Posted: Mar 12, 2026 - 7:42am

LAST POST PART 2

On a second thought:
The internet wasn't ubiquitously in use, as of yet.
Policies (& subsequent international investments) were directed to an internationalisation with talk of the "Global Village" and the like.
Effective throughout Europe with ERASMUS students today, at least studying one semester in a neighboring country in Europe.
Societies were founded with the specific mindset and goals of "Universal Citizenship".
All seemed like we all awaiting "world-brotherhood" in good faith.

The WEF established themselves only decades later as "spiritus rector" of all such thoughts and deeds in 2019 with the 'rona.

BACK THEN:
Nobody would have imagined then that all them war & economy refugees would globally sweep continents from the South like they have....

NOW & THEN:
The US of A keeps bombing the planet for very selfish reasons. 

This the divide in thought & politics.


mannixj

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Posted: Mar 12, 2026 - 6:40am

That is why the whole of Europe switched from their traditional university education to the Anglican system (GB, AU & US) round the turn of the last century. So no more Magister and "studium generale" but Bachelor and Master (and "ONE" credit-point system).

What a rip-off in the name of a so-called free market economy!
It enabled me to receive a master's degree in computer-science within 12 months, whereas the "traditional way" would have taken at least 4-6 years. After a year I found myself teaching at the university as research-assistant in human-centered interfaces. 

Encroyable.

No wonder, the 'measurable' IQ is declining throughout the western world.  

DEAR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - God! Please help us all!!

rgio

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Posted: Mar 12, 2026 - 4:22am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Earlier this evening I said, "they get paid a lot of money to A) not screw these things up and 2) fix them when they do." Later when she was facetiming with mom, she heard basically the exact same thing. 

I also said that person is being nice and helpful but if things start to go wrong, do NOT hesitate to throw her under the bus. Someone is going to have to say "ah, yep, my mistake" and the easiest, least expensive option is to just accept the credits. They have to prove some academic rigor etc etc but there's no good reason to not accept them. Well, there's one that's Irish History or something that they'll have to allow as independent study or something but the writing and art classes should all transfer no question. 

The arguments are (at least) two fold...  Getting the credits at all, and getting the credits for a major.

I believe you said art somewhere.  If her major is art, take the syllabi, the CV's of the professors, class work, etc... and go directly to the head of the department that is going to grant her diploma. This person is more knowledgeable, likely more empathetic, and is the one who decides anyway (if you get past the gatekeepers).  If you can get 1 class approved by the head of a department, then I think you'd have an argument for all of the credits to be accepted.  That might not help to avoid extra classwork depending on how it gets applied to core curriculum, but it's a start.

During the conversation, be sure to mention that without the credits, the most efficient path to a diploma is political science, or something NOT in his/her domain.  Arts and humanities disciplines are dying for headcount validation, and every student lost puts their department at greater risk.


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 8:35pm

 kcar wrote:


There you go. Assuming the study-abroad person is an employee of UW and began that study-abroad process as part of his/her job duties, the university screwed up—either in admitting your daughter to an ineligible program or denying credits achieved through an accepted academic program. 

I'm assuming UW is a huge school. This screw-up likely isn't uncommon due to academic bureaucracy. 


Earlier this evening I said, "they get paid a lot of money to A) not screw these things up and 2) fix them when they do." Later when she was facetiming with mom, she heard basically the exact same thing. 

I also said that person is being nice and helpful but if things start to go wrong, do NOT hesitate to throw her under the bus. Someone is going to have to say "ah, yep, my mistake" and the easiest, least expensive option is to just accept the credits. They have to prove some academic rigor etc etc but there's no good reason to not accept them. Well, there's one that's Irish History or something that they'll have to allow as independent study or something but the writing and art classes should all transfer no question. 
kcar

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 8:04pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I'm really not sure what steps she went through; trying not to do TOO much hand-holding but she started the process with the study-abroad person, so ... I'm sure there's going to be some argument that an i wasn't dotted or a t not crossed. *breathe* 


There you go. Assuming the study-abroad person is an employee of UW and began that study-abroad process as part of his/her job duties, the university screwed up—either in admitting your daughter to an ineligible program or denying credits achieved through an accepted academic program. 

I'm assuming UW is a huge school. This screw-up likely isn't uncommon due to academic bureaucracy. 
Coaxial

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 7:13pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Yeah and that's what ticks me off the most: They're the professionals but they leave it to the kids or the graphic designers to navigate the minefield. 

However, she very clearly had a sitdown with the UW person and said "I'd like to do an art major study abroad in Ireland, what ya got?" and that person scrolled through offerings and found this one and said "ah, this will work!" 

Plus the Ireland school's site says in black and white that the credits will transfer. So at no point did either school say "watch out for this gaping pitfall or you're going to have a sad face." I'm giving them a couple of days to work it out (I emailed both schools together and said "sort it") and if they can't get it fixed, I have no problem going right to lawyering up. I don't feel like letting things run their course is a good plan here.




Give them hell, and good luck!
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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 4:35pm

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