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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:21am

 sirdroseph wrote:
No, I have no problem with God just Evangelicals. I will not vote for an Evangelical and currently that is the litmus test to win the Republican nomination. I would consider voting for Romney or Paul, but will see how the nomination shakes out.
 
I expect the scum will rise to the top.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:16am

 Beaker wrote:

Wow.  If that's your only criterion ... so nothing about competency or platforms enter into the equation ...?

And thus you must have quite a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance then, the whole one nation under God and such?   And I expect you're rather upset with the laws in some of your states too?

 

No, I have no problem with God just Evangelicals. I will not vote for an Evangelical and currently that is the litmus test to win the Republican nomination. I would consider voting for Romney or Paul, but will see how the nomination shakes out.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:03am

 Beaker wrote:

The view changes once one is sitting behind that big ol desk in the Oval office.  

So the choices are either Obama is a big fat liar who told y'all what you wanted to hear, or George Dubya wasn't such a terrible guy after all.  Or both!

Tough one.   

 

If you like Dubya, you have to like Obama. Edit: I see what you are saying now and I agree, I think it is a combination of both because you are correct, they are basically the same.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 9:02am

 arighter2 wrote:
Obama actually had the gall to sign the patriot act extension. His campaign was a complete fraud. Bush III.

 

I agree which only makes me angrier when Republicans have the unmitigated gall to criticize him for acting like them!{#Rolleyes} Our whole political process is just a joke!{#Sad} The liberal Democrats who supported him in 08 because of his rhetoric are the ones that should be angry, not the ones that didn't vote for him. I really don't care anymore, I will vote for the candidate that talks the least about God and religion and leave it at that. Sadly this means I will probably end up voting for Obama again, but not because I am pleased with his performance, but because he is the only candidate that is not freekin' INSANE!{#Stop}He may be disingenuous, but at least he is not a Jesus freak. We are in a mess.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 8:57am

 kurtster wrote:

I agree with this article, too.

I said let the house burn down when faced with the choice of TARP or a crash.  Same with the stimulus. 

Time to get off the hamster wheel.  Go out and buy 10 pairs of the same shoes, 30 or 40 sets of underwear, a dozen pairs of pants, yada, yada ...  Plop a doublewide on a lot with a water well, natural gas, plant a garden, build a still for alcohol fuel and beverage for barter.

And 2,000 packs of orange Zig~Zags and 1,000 Bic lighters ...
 
I think you mean a big propane tank. Which will run out eventually, but hey.

Natural gas (methane) is piped in. You ain't gettin' off the grid that easy, bub.

Oh yeah, you forgot the guns and ammo to fend off marauders.

Just sayin'.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 8:53am

Obama actually had the gall to sign the patriot act extension. His campaign was a complete fraud. Bush III.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:44am

 kurtster wrote:


Supply is not an issue fer me ...

and besides, there have been more than a few times when that good old roach jar has gotten me through those hard times.

{#Mrgreen}

 
Can totally relate

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:43am

 hippiechick wrote:

I don't roll anymore. The stuff we have is too good to smoke in a joint.
 

Supply is not an issue fer me ...

and besides, there have been more than a few times when that good old roach jar has gotten me through those hard times.

{#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:39am

 kurtster wrote:

There is no other.  Accept no substitutes ...


 
I don't roll anymore. The stuff we have is too good to smoke in a joint.

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:34am

 hippiechick wrote:

Orange zig zags?
 
There is no other.  Accept no substitutes ...



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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:23am

 kurtster wrote:

I agree with this article, too.

I said let the house burn down when faced with the choice of TARP or a crash.  Same with the stimulus. 

Time to get off the hamster wheel.  Go out and buy 10 pairs of the same shoes, 30 or 40 sets of underwear, a dozen pairs of pants, yada, yada ...  Plop a doublewide on a lot with a water well, natural gas, plant a garden, build a still for alcohol fuel and beverage for barter.

And 2,000 packs of orange Zig~Zags and 1,000 Bic lighters ...
 
Orange zig zags?

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 6:18am

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THE PLUTOCRATS ARE FAKING !!!  Its all Smoke & Mirrors & you'd do well to note those among you who are leading you astray.
One wonders what's in it for them.

"They want more debt and money,because that is where their power comes from. They also know that if they do not get it, they will have a catastrophe on their hands. The key is fooling you to accept another shackle on your chain, because you are the one that pays for this game." - Silver Shield


A Balanced Budget? Ha! What A Crock!

July 5th, 2011 

By Silver Shield

snip ....
The only way out of this mess is a total collapse.

There is no reforming the system.

It must die of its own cancerous excesses and leave a generational scar so that we never again create a system based off of debt and war.


 
I agree with this article, too.

I said let the house burn down when faced with the choice of TARP or a crash.  Same with the stimulus. 

Time to get off the hamster wheel.  Go out and buy 10 pairs of the same shoes, 30 or 40 sets of underwear, a dozen pairs of pants, yada, yada ...  Plop a doublewide on a lot with a water well, natural gas, plant a garden, build a still for alcohol fuel and beverage for barter.

And 2,000 packs of orange Zig~Zags and 1,000 Bic lighters ...

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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:32am

 nuggler wrote:

I am in complete agreement, I think this article is spot on!{#Yes}
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Posted: Jul 6, 2011 - 5:17am


THE PLUTOCRATS ARE FAKING !!!  Its all Smoke & Mirrors & you'd do well to note those among you who are leading you astray with their repetitious hero worship & idiosyncratic quotes .
One wonders what's in it for them.

"They want more debt and money,because that is where their power comes from. They also know that if they do not get it, they will have a catastrophe on their hands. The key is fooling you to accept another shackle on your chain, because you are the one that pays for this game." - Silver Shield


A Balanced Budget? Ha! What A Crock!

July 5th, 2011 

By Silver Shield

I made a call earlier this year that the debt ceiling would be raised after a Contrived Drama plays out in Washington. I became even more emphatic in April when I said that you can “Count On It!” The reason for my bold assertion is because I know that our debt based monetary system MUST have a constant expansion of debt in order to function. Our money IS debt and they are on in the same. Debt needs to be increased every year in excess of the debt AND interest accrued the year before or we would face a catastrophic deflationary crash. And since bankers profit from creating debt/money and politicians gain control from spending money/debt,they will not end this game willingly. They will put on a huge act to reign in our expectations,but this head fake will only result in a higher debt ceiling and QE3.

The government must act as the spender of last resort since the Boomers are entering their elder years. Boomers have been wiped out from the stock market and housing bubbles and now they are worried about their jobs and retirement. The economy is now feeling the permanence of this demographic shift from the largest and most debt enamored generation slowing down. Businesses,large and small,are scaling back their endeavors to reflect a growing reality of a new normal. The slow down in the largest consuming nation is sending ripples around this globalized world. Countries see the economic slow down of consumer spending that makes up 70% of the economy and no longer want to invest their capital with so many problems on the horizon both here and in their own countries.

This leaves the Federal government as the spender of last resort to keep the music going. They not only have to worry about the $1.4 trillion dollar budget deficit,they have about $4 Trillion in short term debt that needs to be rolled over in the next two years. Who will spend to keep the music playing if not the spender of last resort,the Federal government? Who will buy this debt if not for the lender of last resort,the Fed? And how can the Fed buy more debt if the government has a pesky debt ceiling?

We are now playing a big game of chicken. The Fed says no more money/debt and the government says no more debt/money. Who are they fooling? They are like junkies saying they are going to sober up as they head out the door with Charlie Sheen. They desperately want more debt and money,because that is where their power comes from. They also know that if they do not get it,they will have a catastrophe on their hands. The key is fooling you to accept another shackle on your chain,because you are the one that pays for this game.

The Fed made the first head fake,by announcing the end of QE2 and that there would not be a QE3. The Fed is managing economic expectations so as not let the public panic and leave all paper assets en masse. The Fed knows that if the public ever truly saw the amount of money printing they create,people would lose faith in the currency. Can you imagine Ben Bernanke saying,“yeah,we are going to print trillions of dollars and give it to our buddies so that hey can continue gambling and this should create 20% inflation and more job losses.”If that happened,people would dump their dollars and they would cease to have any value. Gold,silver,food and fuel would sky rocket as more and more dollars chased after a limited amount of real assets. This would collapse all paper assets,including and not limited to,stocks,bonds and real estate. A collapse of that system would destroy the Elites power structure. The Elite is never going to choose that course of action. They must extend and pretend. They must inflate or die.

This CONfidence game must be played so that you believe that the dollars you hold actually have some intrinsic value. The banksters must put on a good show of dour economists spouting economic gibberish. The breathless reporters will then report that we should meet these economic terrorists demands or the world will end. This leaves the political roadblock.

AIPAC’s newest tool,Republican Eric Cantor,is proposing a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution. Obama is talking tough too. Both parties are putting on a political show for their constituents with all the drama of a WWE Smackdown. In reality,the Republicrats are managing political expectations so as not let the public out of this false left-right paradigm of choosing the lesser of two evils. This act is to contain the political anger of 20%+ real unemployment and the massive spending that has resulted in NO jobs. The Republicrats do not want any real change to come to their very well scripted game. They would not want a third party to gain power that would end the wars,bring home the troops from 777+ military bases. They do not want some party to shut down most of the federal government so that states would have more power. And they certainly do not want any real change to the economic system that would end the debt based monetary system or the fractional reserve banking and usury that enables this system. No,they are going to battle hard and at the last second they will reach a “huge”bipartisan compromise for the “good”of the nation. Our heroes…

We are going to have exponential growth of debt leading to hyperinflation.

The big question remains what will come first,the crisis or the compromise? If the Elite feels that there is real resistance to the raising of the debt ceiling,they will spring a economic shock to scare the people with a little taste of deflation like they did in 2008. If they can get away with raising the debt ceiling,the Fed will announce further easing measures to keep the music going later on this summer. I personally believe that we will see a crisis no matter what happens,because that is where the Elite make their biggest gains. With all of this in mind,I encourage everyone to get ahead of the curve and get out of all paper assets now and buy real tangible assets. (Read:The Silver Bullet and the Silver Shield.)

For the record,it is not that I am opposed to a balanced budget,it is just not realistic. In order to truly have a balanced budget we would need to change everything we are,starting with what our money is. We cannot have a debt based monetary system and a balanced budget. It does not work long term since there is never enough in the system to pay the debt AND interest. For those of you that still believe we had a balanced budget during the Clinton years,look at what happened to our social security fund. Look at all of the unfunded liabilities we now face. If you wanted to work towards fiscal sanity,we could start by bringing home all of the troops and using that money here at home. Even that would not last too long,because we have too many now starting to take from the generational Ponzi scheme. Also it would result in the collapse of the Petro dollar,as we would no longer be able to muscle the world to use our money for oil.

The only way out of this mess is a total collapse.

There is no reforming the system.

It must die of its own cancerous excesses and leave a generational scar so that we never again create a system based off of debt and war.



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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 - 1:50pm

 steeler wrote:


Nuggler?

{#Wink}
 
Brutal.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 - 1:48pm

 steeler wrote:
Nuggler?

{#Wink}
  Ouch.


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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 - 1:46pm

 oldslabsides wrote:


Yes.  It allows us the illusion that we matter in the great scheme of things.  An illusion of freedom and representation.  The masses have to be kept happy and the illusion of representative government is a relatively cheap means of maintaining a sense that things are as they should be.

1984

 

Nuggler?

{#Wink}
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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 - 12:29pm

 kurtster wrote:


JFK tried to get out from under the Fed, and we know what happened to him.

 

Oh no - there was no conspiracy!  Oswald acted ALONE.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 - 12:23pm

 oldslabsides wrote:


  why?  the bankers are his bosses - same as every president since the creation of the fed.

 

JFK tried to get out from under the Fed, and we know what happened to him.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2011 - 12:00pm

 Beaker wrote:

Imagine my shock, shock! that I am now seeing the phrase "brainwashed masses" here in the thread titled "Obama's First Term as President"

Reality sets in eventually.

 

 

Oh yes, the masses were infinitely more intelligent and aware under Bush, dumb under Clinton, smart under Bush the elder and Reagan ( had a long run of high American IQ scores during that period), dumb again under Carter of course, had a pretty good run of cognizance under Ford and Nixon so on and so forth. I can't wait to get smart again in 2012; only got another year and a half to go and hopefully I will be able to balance my checkbook again! Woo hoo!{#Dancingbanana_2}

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