And what kind of a professional license do you hold or have had ?
The boy doesn't recognise #snark when he sees it. You were the one who claimed I was living under martial law which is blatantly false. Don't want to dox myself with all the assholes around here but through some odd circumstances I did hold one but let it lapse.
What part of being a licensed optician makes you qualified to bitch about a person in California passing the bar?
No indication of snark or humor on your part at the time.
No problem with the bar exam, it is the license.
How can someone be so blatantly obtuse and expect to be taken seriously ?
Asking for a friend ...
and how can someone from Australia be so interested in how someone got their law license in another country half a world away ?
And what kind of a professional license do you hold or have had ?
The boy doesn't recognise #snark when he sees it. You were the one who claimed I was living under martial law which is blatantly false. Don't want to dox myself with all the assholes around here but through some odd circumstances I did hold one but let it lapse. What part of being a licensed optician makes you qualified to bitch about a person in California passing the bar?
And what kind of a professional license do you hold or have had ?
The boy doesn't recognise #snark when he sees it. You were the one who claimed I was living under martial law which is blatantly false. Don't want to dox myself with all the assholes around here but through some odd circumstances I did hold one but let it lapse. What part of being a licensed optician makes you qualified to bitch about a person in California passing the bar?
You clearly do not understand what it means to hold a professional license and the restrictions, responsibilities and obligations that come with them in this country. I do as I hold a state issued professional medical license.
Then again, you have endorsed martial law as a great thing.
You need to reference where I have endorsed martial law as a great thing. Because you are just throwing bullshit. And for that matter bullshit that isn't even relevant to the discussion.
I do understand what it means to hold a professional license and see no downside to issuing one to a person who's green card is held up be bureaucracy. How does that make him a less responsible person?
haresfur wrote:
kurtster wrote:
Enjoy your life under martial law.
Immensely.
And what kind of a professional license do you hold or have had ?
You clearly do not understand what it means to hold a professional license and the restrictions, responsibilities and obligations that come with them in this country. I do as I hold a state issued professional medical license.
Then again, you have endorsed martial law as a great thing.
You need to reference where I have endorsed martial law as a great thing. Because you are just throwing bullshit. And for that matter bullshit that isn't even relevant to the discussion.
I do understand what it means to hold a professional license and see no downside to issuing one to a person who's green card is held up be bureaucracy. How does that make him a less responsible person?
Funny, I thought it was the court's job to interpret the law and they decided that issuing his license was legal. That's their job or don't you believe in the three branches of your government? And, as you pointed out, the decision was years ago. Any appeals?
I see no overall negative implications. You still haven't shown any problem with the decision.
You clearly do not understand what it means to hold a professional license and the restrictions, responsibilities and obligations that come with them in this country. I do as I hold a state issued professional medical license.
Then again, you have endorsed martial law as a great thing.
I thought that I clearly summarized that it was not about Mr Garcia, that it was the headline itself. About how illegal immigrants are now getting professional licenses in California in spite of state and federal laws prohibiting it. Especially ironic since it is a law license, yet not surprising since it is in California which has officially enacted policies to ignore and disregard federal immigration laws.
You only to want to fixate on Mr Garcia's individual plight and totally ignore the overall implications of the case matter itself which is the basis for my comment. My comment has nothing to do with Mr Garcia as an individual. As I said, Mr Garcia is only the shiny object which has you so transfixed that you cannot see the broader implications of this case.
Funny, I thought it was the court's job to interpret the law and they decided that issuing his license was legal. That's their job or don't you believe in the three branches of your government? And, as you pointed out, the decision was years ago. Any appeals?
I see no overall negative implications. You still haven't shown any problem with the decision.
And I cannot figure out why you brought this up again after 8 years of sitting.
Evidently only to try and call me disingenuous regarding my support for legal immigration.
Read it thought the case was comment worthy.
Calling you disingenuous in how you will twist your reasoning around so what is basically a case of a poor sob who studied hard to make good, got approved for his green card but got caught up in a bureaucratic nightmare is somehow and indication of how, "The game is over. We are fucked."
You are the one doing all of the twisting.
I thought that I clearly summarized that it was not about Mr Garcia, that it was the headline itself. About how illegal immigrants are now getting professional licenses in California in spite of state and federal laws prohibiting it. Especially ironic since it is a law license, yet not surprising since it is in California which has officially enacted policies to ignore and disregard federal immigration laws.
You only to want to fixate on Mr Garcia's individual plight and totally ignore the overall implications of the case matter itself which is the basis for my comment. My comment has nothing to do with Mr Garcia as an individual. As I said, Mr Garcia is only the shiny object which has you so transfixed that you cannot see the broader implications of this case.
And I cannot figure out why you brought this up again after 8 years of sitting.
Evidently only to try and call me disingenuous regarding my support for legal immigration.
Read it thought the case was comment worthy.
Calling you disingenuous in how you will twist your reasoning around so what is basically a case of a poor sob who studied hard to make good, got approved for his green card but got caught up in a bureaucratic nightmare is somehow and indication of how, "The game is over. We are fucked."
I truly can't understand what point you are trying to make. I don't give a flying f if the opinion filed by DOJ under Obama or any other administration. It is only an opinion and the Court apparently rejected it (no I haven't read the ruling). I do give a fuck that people's lives are being screwed up by these games and the slow pace of the system, so I think we are in agreement there. It is hard to tell. I know people who got their green cards in much less than 10 years, so yeah, wtf? But in any case the court has made a determination so what were you bitching about in your original post? Or this one for that matter.
Like I said I can't figure out what your point is.
And I cannot figure out why you brought this up again after 8 years of sitting.
Evidently only to try and call me disingenuous regarding my support for legal immigration.
Well since you went and dug up a post that is nearly 8 years old with a citation that was barely 24 hours old. Let us review, shall we ?
Absolutely, I approve of legal immigration. Always have and continue. Never said otherwise.
First, I'll give you a quote from Mr. Garcia, since then.
On March 28, 2015, Garcia was the guest speaker at the Tehama County Democratic Dinner, where he told attendees, "I would not be here without the many good Democrats of California, and they are my family."
Illegal immigrants are ineligible to practice law in California, President Obamaâs Justice Department told the stateâs high court in a rebuff to a man who was brought to the United States as a toddler and worked his way through college and law school.
Federal law bars the state from issuing an attorneyâs license to Sergio C. Garcia and would also prohibit him from working as a lawyer, the Justice Department said in a filing Wednesday with the court, which had requested its opinion.
The 1996 law, which denies âpublic benefitsâ to illegal immigrants, was drafted to âpreclude undocumented aliens from receiving commercial and professional licenses issued by states and the federal government,â Justice Department lawyers told the court.
Garcia, who lives in Chico, was brought to California by his parents at age 2, returned to Mexico with them at 9 and came back with them at 17.
His father, now a U.S. citizen, sponsored Garciaâs application for legal status and a green card in 1994.
The government has found him eligible but put him on a waiting list for final approval, which could take at least another decade.
Garcia graduated from Cal Northern School of Law in Chico and passed the bar exam on his first try in 2009. But the state Supreme Court, which licenses attorneys in California, put his application on hold in May and
said it would use the case to determine whether illegal immigrants are eligible to become lawyers.
The system is what it is and does suck. And that is more the result of bureaucratic and political gaming. This is and always has been our Congress' job to fix. Which it refuses to do. It also has been less that 10 years since this statement about waiting at least a decade was made.
The second bolded is what matters, not Mr Garcia's individual legal status that is still apparently in limbo after all of these years. Doesn't say much about his skills as a attorney, does it ? That aside, it still comes down to the bottom line. It is the actual headline that matters. Mr Garcia is just a player, the shiny object that distracts people from what matters most. Worked with you.
I truly can't understand what point you are trying to make. I don't give a flying f if the opinion filed by DOJ under Obama or any other administration. It is only an opinion and the Court apparently rejected it (no I haven't read the ruling). I do give a fuck that people's lives are being screwed up by these games and the slow pace of the system, so I think we are in agreement there. It is hard to tell. I know people who got their green cards in much less than 10 years, so yeah, wtf? But in any case the court has made a determination so what were you bitching about in your original post? Or this one for that matter. Like I said I can't figure out what your point is.
The banks got greedy and financed these unneeded projects. Just desserts I guess.
Could be this way soon in California, too. People are fleeing in record numbers. The state is losing Congressional seats from falling population.
And the state has seen this coming and California has an exit tax on the table for future income for those who leave for up to 10 years.
Many California taxpayers seem to be getting sick of shouldering this burden â the most recent IRS migration data shows that, on net, over 60,000 Californians moved out of the state between 2017 and 2018, resulting in a net loss of $8 billion in adjusted gross income. Between 2010 and 2018, the stateâs tax base shrank by $24.6 billion.
Perhaps in an effort to avoid the consequences of imposing ever-increasing tax burdens on their taxpayers, the wealth tax proposal includes an exit tax to ensure that no one escapes the loving embrace of the California Franchise Tax Board. A person subject to the tax who chooses to leave the state will still be subject to it for ten years, at a sliding scale, amounting to a 1.80 percent exit tax, as Figure A shows. Understatement of tax would carry a penalty of the greater of $1 million or 20 percent of the tax due, on top of existing tax penalties.
Regarding Barcelona or Spain - I heard they overbuilt - they had like 5 million people and had 6 million apartments
Lots of squatters, in bank-owned property, but they live with dignity, not in tents
Piss poor planning, but ...
If it is what it is and it works, it works.
The banks got greedy and financed these unneeded projects. Just desserts I guess.
Could be this way soon in California, too. People are fleeing in record numbers. The state is losing Congressional seats from falling population.
And the state has seen this coming and California has an exit tax on the table for future income for those who leave for up to 10 years.
Many California taxpayers seem to be getting sick of shouldering this burden — the most recent IRS migration data shows that, on net, over 60,000 Californians moved out of the state between 2017 and 2018, resulting in a net loss of $8 billion in adjusted gross income. Between 2010 and 2018, the state’s tax base shrank by $24.6 billion.
Perhaps in an effort to avoid the consequences of imposing ever-increasing tax burdens on their taxpayers, the wealth tax proposal includes an exit tax to ensure that no one escapes the loving embrace of the California Franchise Tax Board. A person subject to the tax who chooses to leave the state will still be subject to it for ten years, at a sliding scale, amounting to a 1.80 percent exit tax, as Figure A shows. Understatement of tax would carry a penalty of the greater of $1 million or 20 percent of the tax due, on top of existing tax penalties.
One the first bolded, it is regulations that cause the majority of these problems.
On the second bolded, earthquakes make both of those items undesirable and cost prohibitive., more so the latter ... the subways.
Yes - regulations is zoning - sign sign everywhere a sign - turns out we have been run by Karens for 100+ years
Underground or overhead - electric transit - 150 years old - is the solution
Regulations are much more than simple zoning. As a grade school kid, I spent time with my Dad who then was a struggling architect in Berkeley, down in his office coloring in a city map of each individual lot by zoning type. This was around 1960 ish It took more than a few weekends. His office was also right across the street from The Berkeley Gazette newspaper offices and presses. I had a paper route for the paper then, as my Dad did as a kid. I even had the same circulation manager as my Dad, Mr Ochs. I was over at the paper as much as my Dad's office going all over the press room and even helping to bundle up papers for the routes. But I digress. Zoning was pretty simple back then. Variances and changing the zoning were the only real issues then. Now you have endless requirements to meet just to break ground. And that process can take years to complete, just to break ground. And in most places in California to remodel, rebuild or improve, you must use the existing foundation or it is a non starter. Then you have to comply with architectural review boards and the EPA throughout the entire process, not to mention inspectors. This is why there is a housing shortage in California, let alone an affordable housing shortage.
Garcia emigrated from Mexico with his family when he was 17 months old. He returned to Mexico when he was 9 and reentered the U.S. illegally when he was 17.
WTF ? An officer of the court whose personal status is totally illegal in the first place ?
The game is over. We are fucked.
"The federal government approved the application in 1995, but Garcia is still waiting for his green card."
Well, there's your trouble.
Why should he be denied his ability to practice his profession because of government ill-will or incompetence? I thought you approved of legal immigration.
Well since you went and dug up a post that is nearly 8 years old with a citation that was barely 24 hours old. Let us review, shall we ?
Absolutely, I approve of legal immigration. Always have and continue. Never said otherwise.
First, I'll give you a quote from Mr. Garcia, since then.
On March 28, 2015, Garcia was the guest speaker at the Tehama County Democratic Dinner, where he told attendees, "I would not be here without the many good Democrats of California, and they are my family."
Illegal immigrants are ineligible to practice law in California, President Obama’s Justice Department told the state’s high court in a rebuff to a man who was brought to the United States as a toddler and worked his way through college and law school.
Federal law bars the state from issuing an attorney’s license to Sergio C. Garcia and would also prohibit him from working as a lawyer, the Justice Department said in a filing Wednesday with the court, which had requested its opinion.
The 1996 law, which denies “public benefits” to illegal immigrants, was drafted to “preclude undocumented aliens from receiving commercial and professional licenses issued by states and the federal government,” Justice Department lawyers told the court.
Garcia, who lives in Chico, was brought to California by his parents at age 2, returned to Mexico with them at 9 and came back with them at 17.
His father, now a U.S. citizen, sponsored Garcia’s application for legal status and a green card in 1994.
The government has found him eligible but put him on a waiting list for final approval, which could take at least another decade.
Garcia graduated from Cal Northern School of Law in Chico and passed the bar exam on his first try in 2009. But the state Supreme Court, which licenses attorneys in California, put his application on hold in May and
said it would use the case to determine whether illegal immigrants are eligible to become lawyers. The system is what it is and does suck. And that is more the result of bureaucratic and political gaming. This is and always has been our Congress' job to fix. Which it refuses to do. It also has been less that 10 years since this statement about waiting at least a decade was made.
The second bolded is what matters, not Mr Garcia's individual legal status that is still apparently in limbo after all of these years. Doesn't say much about his skills as a attorney, does it ? That aside, it still comes down to the bottom line. It is the actual headline that matters. Mr Garcia is just a player, the shiny object that distracts people from what matters most. Worked with you.
Garcia emigrated from Mexico with his family when he was 17 months old. He returned to Mexico when he was 9 and reentered the U.S. illegally when he was 17.
WTF ? An officer of the court whose personal status is totally illegal in the first place ?
The game is over. We are fucked.
"The federal government approved the application in 1995, but Garcia is still waiting for his green card."
Well, there's your trouble.
Why should he be denied his ability to practice his profession because of government ill-will or incompetence? I thought you approved of legal immigration.
