buzz wrote: 

Its not lying when it affects only 10 million Americans, so far ...

You Also Can't Keep Your Doctor

...
Before the Affordable Care Act, health-insurance policies could not be sold across state lines; now policies sold on the Affordable Care Act exchanges may not be offered across county lines.

Which Top Hospitals Take Your Health Insurance Under Obamacare?

Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare, Watchdog.org reports.

We use #'s 4 and 18 depending on what's wrong.  Under Obamacare we would have to pick just one hospital, and as the article states, its not clear which plan works with which hospital based upon info on the website.  Assuming you can even log on to the website.

Consumers, too, will struggle with the new system. Many exchanges don't even list the insurance companies on their web sites. Some that do, like California, don't provide names of doctors or hospitals.

Rank*	Hospital	Insurance Accepted**
1	Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore	All insurance companies, per state law
2	Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston	All insurance companies, per state law
3	Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minn.	Blue Cross (silver plan only)
4	Cleveland Clinic, Cleveland, Ohio	Medical Mutual of Ohio
5	UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles	Anthem Blue Cross, Health Net
6	Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Chicago	Land of Lincoln, Blue Cross
7	New York-Presbyterian University Hospital of Columbia and Cornell	UnitedHealthCare, EmblemHealth, Aetna
8	UCSF Medical Center, San Francisco	Anthem Blue Cross
9	Brigham and Women's Hospital, Boston	All insurance companies, per state law
10	University of Pittsburgh Medical Center	Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield, UPMC Health Plan, Health America
11	Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia	Aetna Independence, Blue Cross
12	Duke University Medical Center, Durham, N.C.	Coventry Health Care, Blue Cross
13	Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles	Health Net
14	NYU Langone Medical Center, New York	UnitedHealthCare, Affinity Health System, Fidelis Care
15	Barnes-Jewish Hospital/Washington University, St. Louis	Coventry Health Care
16	Indiana University Health Academic Health Center, Indianapolis	MDWise
17	Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, Philadelphia	Independence Blue Cross, Aetna
18	University Hospitals Case Medical Center, Cleveland	Anthem Blue Cross, HealthSpan, SummaCare, SuperMed

your milage will not varry

Period. It's the new asterisk.

 BlueHeronDruid wrote: 
But only when I'm chilled out.It was nice talking to you.When I'm stressed I yelp(and type) like a beagle,except they might have a tougher time with the keyboard with their big floppy paws.Once I chill I'd rival BillG on the voice,but I'd be out of my league on the programming.

I am smarter than a beagle though,seriously.

But those friggin' onion bagels might have a couple IQ points on me.
Beagle,bagel.Tomato,tomatoe.

Love ya C.
Thanks.

 

 spammer wrote: 
Bokey, bokey, bokey.





Radio voice.

 helenofjoy wrote: 
Thank you Helen(that was my favorite Aunts name BTW).

I spoke with C and all is well.I've just got so much on my plate right now and it's causing me a lot of stress.Sometimes I talk or type without taking a moment to chill and it comes out wrong.My brain works faster than my mouth or fingers occasionally.

Sometimes I wish I had been born stupid,or at least learned to not say/type stuff without a timeout.

 You're one of the good ones.

 spammer wrote:  Forgive me for intruding.  You are a beloved friend here to an awful lot of people and I've watched many of you go through some pretty sorrowful experiences and trying times, as you have been for longer than I know.  I know of your heart because that's where you write from and it's clear who you are.  Some recent conversation here in this very thread touches on the perceptions we have with regard to someone expressing themselves to us.  I believe that's what has happened here.  I hope that you learn that is true so that you don't feel uncomfortable here.  You are a very large part of what "here" is.  Sometimes the way people express themselves makes a situation ripe for misinterpretation.  These people love and respect you and want to be able to comfort you now.

 aflanigan wrote: 
I just want to let you know that I admire you.You're intelligent,articulate and present any conflicting arguments in a respectful,articulate manner.

OK-I wore myself out using big words and pretending to be smart.

 Peace and stay cool.The world could use more people like you.

 spammer wrote: 

I'd rather he called me Dude.

Or maybe not.

The Etymology of Dude

 kurtster wrote: 
Thanks for calling me Bro,it really helped.You're right,I shouldn't have mentioned names, especially Islander.He's cool,he just jumped on the bandwagon after someone else started it.Other than that he's always been cool.

I just don't like it when Mommy and Daddy(you guys) fight.

And ScottN-well,sorry your team is the Twins

We are totally cool.Thanks Scott for your insight.

 spammer wrote: 

Hey there bro,

I think the bigger point is that naming the names is the unnecessary part that offends most.

We all pretty much know who pushes whose buttons which way and why.  And in many cases, we let them get to us.

Yet we somehow always find a way to get past it to keep better things going here.

This too shall pass ...

 spammer wrote:Bokey, I have commented on some of your late night texts.  I hope that doesn't put me in your RP "shithole" category.

You carry a larger burden than many of us could bear.  You're a good man, imo.  RP IS made up of individuals with none of us being prefect. You are welcome in my "E-house" anytime.
I hope this is a good day for you and you have a lot more good days following.

 Antigone wrote: 
It's all cool.I kind of went overboard last night.I'm exhausted,beaten into the ground and just generally feel helpless about things that I can't fix.Thankfully,Kurt gave me a call around 2 or 3 AM when he recognized I was distraught and calmed me down,but by then I had already made the offensive post,which I shouldn't have included Islander in.I have apologized to him and he has accepted that.I don't care to apologize to the others I mentioned,but I'm dropping it.The person who attacked me knows who he is,and hopefully we will never meet.He made a personal attack on me for no reason,but I used to think he was kinda cool and his partner was a friend.It saddened me to find out that was not the case.
  I know how much you miss your Father,and I wake up every day not knowing if it's going to be the last day for mine.
 With my brothers care being on top of that now,I just never get much sleep and have to play the nurse.Pops takes 14 meds at all different times and they don't coordinate timewise with the constantly changing eyedrop meds for my brothers eye operations,so it hasn't been a very good time sleepwise,but It's all cool.

However,there was no excuse for including Islander.He made a well thought out comment a few weeks ago after I was personally attacked,and the stuff between him and Kurt just upset me and I just threw in a couple names of the worst RP aggressors.Islander should not have been included,that was my bad.
 

spammer wrote:
srsly dude-- Take a step back.

 spammer wrote: 
And, please, man, I did not in any way intend for you to feel like I want you to leave. You can find some support here, and I know you need it.

Peace.

 Antigone wrote: 
I respect you and apologize for any disturbance I caused the RP community.

 spammer wrote: 
Bokey, I'm not trying to beat the dead horse or wag a finger at you, but I do want to add one thing. I understand that your world feels like hell right now, but does it really help to lash out? Seems to me that only hurts you, and alienates people, even ones you don't lash out at.

 islander wrote:  

An off the cuff take would be best in my intended context.  If it helps any, the bullet in the sense I was using would be coming from a government agent, not some dysfunctional whacko. 

There is no way for me to make a nice little statement about what a real threat I think of the way apathy presents itself today.  I see it as the majority position in our country and point to the widespread acceptance of supposed governemnt incompetency.and real corruption as proof.  Expectations have never been lower in what we expect from our governement in terms of performance and delivering services.  Is this acceptance of incompetence a generational thing in its current form ?  Is it a political divide ?  Is it an educational divide ?  Obviously, I'm leaning towards the generational thought, but know better than to put it all on that alone.

Krauthammer points to the choice of looking at the behaviour of our government.  When the choice is between incompetency and conspiracy, he always chooses incompetency.  I recognize that he has had a front row seat in looking at our government.  Polls point to rising levels of disatisfaction with our government, but the ones that matter (voting) show the opposite.  But there is a new dynamic in play.  The lying coming from our government has never been greater than since Nam, and it is being tolerated to the point of acceptance, and I think that is rooted in apathy and largely due to the lack of exposure to anything like this in succeeding generations. 

I took a peak at the progress of this thread while composing this thought and see that you are waist deep in this very subject (managing generational perceptions) on a first hand basis.  Between Rotary and the very nature of what you do professionally, you might have some insight into all this.

 mutepoint wrote: 
No thanks,but call 555-555-5555 for a good time.

Thanks for being there for me dude.