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MsJudi
Location: Houston, TX Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 9:24am |
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aflanigan wrote:Eugenics involved, inter alia, promoting the breeding of "superior" genetic canditates and suppressing the breeding/reproduction of "inferior" genetic candidates. Why not encourage your daughter to simply adopt an orphan? Seriously? You're wise enough to get all up in people's very private choices like this?
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 9:16am |
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hippiechick wrote: I wasn't talking about killing the poor babies, give me a break
Eugenics involved, inter alia, promoting the breeding of "superior" genetic canditates and suppressing the breeding/reproduction of "inferior" genetic candidates. Why not encourage your daughter to simply adopt an orphan?
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:31am |
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pigtail wrote:Took me two hours in the fog soup to get 15 miles. Too many people are commuting! When do I get my hovercraft dammit?? They lied to us, they told us we would all have hovercraft by now.
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pigtail
Location: Southern California Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:30am |
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Took me two hours in the fog soup to get 15 miles. Too many people are commuting! When do I get my hovercraft dammit??
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:28am |
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aflanigan wrote: You should be careful about making those sorts of statements. They make you sound like a eugenicist.
I wasn't talking about killing the poor babies, give me a break
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:26am |
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hippiechick wrote:Not at all. I would just like to see my daughter have a baby, dammit! You should be careful about making those sorts of statements. They make you sound like a eugenicist.
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:22am |
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aflanigan wrote:
So you agree with Ross Douthat?
Not at all. I would just like to see my daughter have a baby, dammit!
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:16am |
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hippiechick wrote: I would like to see more smart educated women having babies.
So you agree with Ross Douthat?
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Dec 5, 2012 - 8:10am |
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aflanigan wrote: I would like to see more smart educated women having babies.
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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R_P
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Dec 3, 2012 - 12:17pm |
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aflanigan wrote:Ross Douthat, one of the NY Times' house conservatives, has decided that overpopulation is not a pressing enough problem, and that we need to set about making it worse: More Babies, Please Remove the social nets, which will get rid off the 'decadence', stimulate those individual choices, and produce more (white) babies. Overpopulation is often a NIMBY problem. Or linked to the perception by some that the 'enemy du jour' is outbreeding us.
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 11:39am |
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Lazy8 wrote:aflanigan wrote:Then what exactly is he advocating in his last paragraph? Seems to me his "slow accumulation of individual choices" is an argument for us to get busy (in the figurative as well as literal sense). I don't think he's talking about what type of birth control couples decide on. You mean this one? Such decadence need not be permanent, but neither can it be undone by political willpower alone. It can only be reversed by the slow accumulation of individual choices, which is how all social and cultural recoveries are ultimately made. He's criticizing what he sees as decadence, lower birthrate being a consequence. I disagree with him on that point to some extent, but he's not saying that all those decadent people should start making babies. If anything he's arguing that people should be less decadent, and that that would raise the birthrate. I guess we just take different messages away from this. If the hed "More Babies, Please" was inconsistent with what he was arguing, he hasn't given an indication to that effect. It seems to me the main concern he raises is not decadence but reducted birth rates. Like many of his other fellow conservative pundits like Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh, he probably would be happy with a reduction in decadence, but suppose this resulted in a reduction in whisky consumption and not an increase in birth rates? Seems to me he would still be upset since we would still be on the road to losing our geopolitical dominance.
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 10:57am |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:- but with fertility in decline across Mexico and Latin America, it isn’t clear that the United States can continue to rely heavily on immigrant birthrates to help drive population growth.
Mexico and Latin America aren't the only places immigrants come from, just where most of ours come from now. And "in decline" doesn't mean "below the replacement rate"—Latin American populations will be rising for some time.
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 10:53am |
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aflanigan wrote:Then what exactly is he advocating in his last paragraph? Seems to me his "slow accumulation of individual choices" is an argument for us to get busy (in the figurative as well as literal sense). I don't think he's talking about what type of birth control couples decide on. You mean this one? Such decadence need not be permanent, but neither can it be undone by political willpower alone. It can only be reversed by the slow accumulation of individual choices, which is how all social and cultural recoveries are ultimately made. He's criticizing what he sees as decadence, lower birthrate being a consequence. I disagree with him on that point to some extent, but he's not saying that all those decadent people should start making babies. If anything he's arguing that people should be less decadent, and that that would raise the birthrate.
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Coaxial
Location: Comfortably numb in So Texas Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 10:34am |
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aflanigan wrote:
Then what exactly is he advocating in his last paragraph? Seems to me his "slow accumulation of individual choices" is an argument for us to get busy (in the figurative as well as literal sense). I don't think he's talking about what type of birth control couples decide on.
All the words...They changed....
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 10:21am |
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Lazy8 wrote:I think you're misreading the point of the article. He's pointing out a demographic trend and its consequences, not advocating for people to make different choices.
Then what exactly is he advocating in his last paragraph? Seems to me his "slow accumulation of individual choices" is an argument for us to get busy (in the figurative as well as literal sense). I don't think he's talking about what type of birth control couples decide on.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 10:12am |
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Lazy8 wrote:He's also missing the impact of immigration on our population. Birthrate isn't the only way a population grows. - but with fertility in decline across Mexico and Latin America, it isn’t clear that the United States can continue to rely heavily on immigrant birthrates to help drive population growth.
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 10:03am |
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aflanigan wrote:Ross Douthat, one of the NY Times' house conservatives, has decided that overpopulation is not a pressing enough problem, and that we need to set about making it worse: More Babies, Please I think you're misreading the point of the article. He's pointing out a demographic trend and its consequences, not advocating for people to make different choices. He's also missing the impact of immigration on our population. Birthrate isn't the only way a population grows.
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Dec 3, 2012 - 9:43am |
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Ross Douthat, one of the NY Times' house conservatives, has decided that overpopulation is not a pressing enough problem, and that we need to set about making it worse: More Babies, Please
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