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Posted: Mar 6, 2020 - 4:13am

 kcar wrote:
 
 
There is a different between an idiot and having dementia, Trump has always been an idiot.
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Posted: Mar 6, 2020 - 4:10am

 sirdroseph wrote:


 ScottN wrote:

I believe the scuttlebutt that if Biden is the nominee he'll choose an African-American woman.  Politically helpful for the general, as well a nod to Clyburn/Obama.
 

That would be wise to draw the African American vote in the general, but it is a slippery slope because he has to balance this with independents so the ideal would be a moderate African American woman, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.   Stacy Abrams would be the obvious choice, but she is too liberal to fly in the general.    If all of these Democratic candidates sans Buttigieg, Klobuchar and obviously Biden were deemed too liberal for Democrats then they sure aren't going to thrill independents and anti Trumpers.   In general (pun intended) Buttigieg and Klobuchar would  be the ideal choices, but African American voters just don't like them so they are out.   What makes it even more intense of a decision is that most are aware that Biden is basically late 80s early 90s Reagan in terms of dementia onset so the VP pick is even more vital in his case.   It will be a difficult choice for him and his team no doubt.    To get my vote, it has to be Klobuchar.   I like Buttigieg, but he is a non starter in the African American community, a lot of liberal white folks don't like to acknowledge that many African Americans are as socially conservative as evangelicals especially in terms of homophobia, but it's true.
 

"What makes it even more intense of a decision is that most are aware that Biden is basically late 80s early 90s Reagan in terms of dementia onset so the VP pick is even more vital in his case."  


This claim cries out for some supporting evidence. You might want to read this before you start looking around on the Web: 

We talked to experts on aging about the 2020 field. Here’s what they told us.


But concerns about Biden’s age and mental fitness are likely overblown, according to experts on aging and the brain, as well as actuarial tables used by the insurance industry to estimate the health and longevity of customers.

The two brain aneurysms Biden suffered in 1988 were fully treated and he showed no signs of mental trouble as a result, said Dr. Neal Kassell, who performed the surgery on Biden three decades ago. Nor did Biden suffer any brain damage that could come back to haunt him in old age, Kassell said.


...

With the prospect that the next president might be the oldest ever to take office, a team of researchers with the American Federation for Aging Research released a study last month to answer this morbid question: How likely is he or she to die in office?

The answer: Not very.

The candidates “have prospects for survival that extend well beyond the four-year term of the office. The bottom line is their chronological age does not matter at all,” Dr. S. Jay Olshansky, who led the study, said.

Of course the researchers can't predict death: Their life-expectancy projections for the candidates are based on estimates of the entire population contained in actuarial tables used by the insurance industry and the Social Security Administration. There’s no better way to estimate the longevity or health of the candidates without individual medical examinations and a look at their medical records, they said.

But “there was nothing we could see that would lead us to believe that the age of an individual, in and of itself, should be a disqualifying factor to run for president,” Olshansky said.


BTW Biden has been making gaffes for decades. You might be more concerned about Trump. I've bolded some words and the hyperlink in the newspaper excerpt below. Trump visited Pearl Harbor 3 years ago and gave a speech, but couldn't remember the Pearl Harbor attack or the USS Arizona memorial one year later. 


'Dangerously uninformed’: New book says Trump didn’t know what happened at Pearl Harbor

Jan. 17, 2020

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - A new book claims President Donald Trump did not understand the basic history behind the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor before visiting two years ago.

“He was at times dangerously uninformed,” a former senior White House adviser said in “A Very Stable Genius,” a new book by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol D. Leonnig.

In it, they wrote that President Trump asked his then-Chief of Staff John Kelly before a private tour of the USS Arizona Memorial: “Hey, John, what’s this all about? What’s this a tour of?”

The book said, “Trump had heard the phrase ‘Pearl Harbor’ and appeared to understand that he was visiting the scene of a historic battle, but he did not seem to know much else."

During his visit of the historic site three years ago, Trump said, "This is very special to be in Hawaii and to be visiting very shortly Pearl Harbor which I’ve read about, spoken about, heard about, studied, but I haven’t seen.”

Here's an excerpt from the hyperlink embedded in the 1/17/20 article just above—the hyperlinked article is from November 1, 2017. Again the emphasis is mine: 

President makes whirlwind stopover in Hawaii

...

Trump shook hands and posed for photos with members of the military and their families before departing for Camp Smith to meet with PACOM leaders. There, he told the press that he was excited about his upcoming trip to the USS Arizona Memorial.

"I tell you, this is very special being in Hawaii," the president said.

He added he's "read about, spoken about, heard about, studied, but I haven't seen" Pearl Harbor.

Every president since Franklin D. Roosevelt has visited the Arizona Memorial.

And Trump appeared moved during his visit to the site, which honors the sailors and Marines who died in the Dec. 7 attack on Pearl Harbor. At the memorial, the president and first lady offered a wreath of white flowers, bowed their heads during a moment of silence, and then dropped petals into the water.

On Twitter after the Pearl Harbor visit, the president posted a video of his Hawaii stop and said, "Remember #PearlHarbor. Remember the @USSArizona! A day I'll never forget."

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Posted: Mar 6, 2020 - 3:15am



 ScottN wrote:

I believe the scuttlebutt that if Biden is the nominee he'll choose an African-American woman.  Politically helpful for the general, as well a nod to Clyburn/Obama.
 

That would be wise to draw the African American vote in the general, but it is a slippery slope because he has to balance this with independents so the ideal would be a moderate African American woman, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.   Stacy Abrams would be the obvious choice, but she is too liberal to fly in the general.    If all of these Democratic candidates sans Buttigieg, Klobuchar and obviously Biden were deemed too liberal for Democrats then they sure aren't going to thrill independents and anti Trumpers.   In general (pun intended) Buttigieg and Klobuchar would  be the ideal choices, but African American voters just don't like them so they are out.   What makes it even more intense of a decision is that most are aware that Biden is basically late 80s early 90s Reagan in terms of dementia onset so the VP pick is even more vital in his case.   It will be a difficult choice for him and his team no doubt.    To get my vote, it has to be Klobuchar.   I like Buttigieg, but he is a non starter in the African American community, a lot of liberal white folks don't like to acknowledge that many African Americans are as socially conservative as evangelicals especially in terms of homophobia, but it's true.
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Posted: Mar 6, 2020 - 2:32am



 steeler wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
Rumour has it that that's the DNC's preferred outcome/goal.
 

Interesting. From my observations, leading into Super Tuesday, in announcing her endorsement, he seemed to be giving subtle indications he might go with Amy Klobuchar.
 

That would be nice.  Would sure make me sleep a lot better.
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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 5:52pm



 ScottN wrote:

I believe the scuttlebutt that if Biden is the nominee he'll choose an African-American woman.  Politically helpful for the general, as well a nod to Clyburn/Obama.

As was already said, he'll chose Warren,  who will be quick to remind Biden of her  1/1999 % African-American genes.


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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 5:43pm

 westslope wrote:
This is a stretch......
 
If Elizabeth Warren can convince Joe Biden to move in her policy direction and as a result, she backs Biden, then I believe Sanders is done. 

Though to Sanders' credit, he appears to have  had a lasting policy influence on the Democratic Party.

Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
I believe the scuttlebutt that if Biden is the nominee he'll choose an African-American woman.  Politically helpful for the general, as well a nod to Clyburn/Obama.
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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 5:14pm



 steeler wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
Rumour has it that that's the DNC's preferred outcome/goal.
 

Interesting. From my observations, leading into Super Tuesday, in announcing her endorsement, he seemed to be giving subtle indications he might go with Amy Klobuchar.
 
that's what Amy dreams of, and she'll end up POTUS!

jahgirl8

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 5:10pm



 westslope wrote:
This is a stretch......
 
If Elizabeth Warren can convince Joe Biden to move in her policy direction and as a result, she backs Biden, then I believe Sanders is done. 

Though to Sanders' credit, he appears to have  had a lasting policy influence on the Democratic Party.

Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
Doubtful either will invite her has VP.

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 2:31pm



 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
Rumour has it that that's the DNC's preferred outcome/goal.
 
My preferred outcome is to keep her and the others in the senate where they can do some good

steeler

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 2:16pm



 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
Rumour has it that that's the DNC's preferred outcome/goal.
 

Interesting. From my observations, leading into Super Tuesday, in announcing her endorsement, he seemed to be giving subtle indications he might go with Amy Klobuchar.
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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 1:05pm

 westslope wrote:
Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
 
Rumour has it that that's the DNC's preferred outcome/goal.
westslope

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 12:34pm

This is a stretch......
 
If Elizabeth Warren can convince Joe Biden to move in her policy direction and as a result, she backs Biden, then I believe Sanders is done. 

Though to Sanders' credit, he appears to have  had a lasting policy influence on the Democratic Party.

Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
hayduke2

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 11:53am

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/opinion/bernie-biden-happy-warrior.html?algo=top_conversion&fellback=false&imp_id=165453812&imp_id=994770766&action=click&module=trending&pgtype=Article&region=Footer

Bernie Angry. Bernie Smash!

Forget the Happy Warrior. Enter the Crabby Warrior.

Jennifer Finney Boylan

By 

Contributing Opinion Writer

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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 11:51am

 black321 wrote:
But where's Flavor Flav? Not feeling the bern.
 
Probably still high as a kite...
When reached for comment, Chuck D sent the following statement to Billboard: "Flavor chooses to dance for his money and not do benevolent work like this. He has a year to get his act together and get himself straight or he’s out."

In his own statement, a lawyer for Chuck D added, "From a legal standpoint, Chuck could perform as Public Enemy if he ever wanted to; he is the sole owner of the Public Enemy trademark. He originally drew the logo himself in the mid-80’s, is also the creative visionary and the group’s primary songwriter, having written Flavor’s most memorable lines.”

black321

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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 11:27am

But where's Flavor Flav? Not feeling the bern.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 10:21am


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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 2:55pm

P.E. worth seeing... but c'mon now, socialism has NEVER worked. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!

 R_P wrote:

 


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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 1:42pm


sirdroseph

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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 6:43am

 steeler wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
Some revel in the prospect of a pandemic so it will produce economic and market hardship causing issues for the sitting President, what if the prospect of your candidate and his policies itself caused the same market issues as a pandemic?

{#Eek}

 

Wall Street cites Bernie Sanders as a rival to the coronavirus as a market risk

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investor-challenges-coronavirus-market-turmoil-this-is-a-bernie-sanders-story-215843823.html

 

 

Global markets have swooned as the pathogen spreads to a successive number of countries outside of China, including South Korea, the U.S., Italy, Iran, Germany and Brazil. 

Yet Lee Munson, chief investment officer of Portfolio Wealth Advisors, told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that the rise in volatility is really “a story about Bernie Sanders.” Munson pointed out that losses in Europe, and more risk-sensitive emerging market assets, have lagged the deep plunge in U.S. markets.

“If this is really about coronavirus today, we should see emerging markets down 4-5% ... but that’s not the case,” he said. “This is about Bernie Sanders, this is about policy, and this is the correction we were looking for ahead of Super Tuesday.”

And just days ago, the president himself — who’s assiduously claimed credit for a market that hit new records just last week — blamed the Vermont senator for the recent downturn.

 

Eurasia Group estimates that Sanders has a 40% chance to secure the nomination, held back by his vulnerabilities as a general election candidate, but sees a 55% chance that a moderate will eventually prevail.

Whether that person is Bloomberg, however, remains to be seen.

 “We thought that Bloomberg was going to be maybe this hope of sanity — not,” the investor told Yahoo Finance. “The guy showed poorly. I think this is all about politics,” Munson said.

Munson pointed to a sharp drop in the UnitedHealth’s (UNH) stock — which plunged by nearly $20 in Tuesday’s session. Sanders’ embrace of a national health care system has unsettled health care investors, and even some companies.

“There’s this thought that a socialist is going to do Medicare-For-All,” Munson explained, echoing RBC’s analysis that showed health care, financials and energy have “the highest degree of risk” under a theoretical Sanders presidency.

“Health Care has been one of Sanders’s signature campaign issues, with his support of Medicare for All, capping prescription drug prices, and elimination of medical debt,” the bank wrote.

The policy backdrop would also be onerous for financials,” RBC wrote — based on his embrace of breaking up big banks, re-establishing financial sector firewalls and eliminating student debt, among other things.

 

 
As I heard someone say very recently: stay calm. 

 
I'm fine either way just pointing out the hypocrisy of reveling in a bad market........or not.  
steeler

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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 6:20am



 sirdroseph wrote:
Some revel in the prospect of a pandemic so it will produce economic and market hardship causing issues for the sitting President, what if the prospect of your candidate and his policies itself caused the same market issues as a pandemic?

{#Eek}


 

Wall Street cites Bernie Sanders as a rival to the coronavirus as a market risk

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investor-challenges-coronavirus-market-turmoil-this-is-a-bernie-sanders-story-215843823.html

 

 

Global markets have swooned as the pathogen spreads to a successive number of countries outside of China, including South Korea, the U.S., Italy, Iran, Germany and Brazil. 

Yet Lee Munson, chief investment officer of Portfolio Wealth Advisors, told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that the rise in volatility is really “a story about Bernie Sanders.” Munson pointed out that losses in Europe, and more risk-sensitive emerging market assets, have lagged the deep plunge in U.S. markets.

“If this is really about coronavirus today, we should see emerging markets down 4-5% ... but that’s not the case,” he said. “This is about Bernie Sanders, this is about policy, and this is the correction we were looking for ahead of Super Tuesday.”

And just days ago, the president himself — who’s assiduously claimed credit for a market that hit new records just last week — blamed the Vermont senator for the recent downturn.

 

Eurasia Group estimates that Sanders has a 40% chance to secure the nomination, held back by his vulnerabilities as a general election candidate, but sees a 55% chance that a moderate will eventually prevail.

Whether that person is Bloomberg, however, remains to be seen.

 â€œWe thought that Bloomberg was going to be maybe this hope of sanity — not,” the investor told Yahoo Finance. “The guy showed poorly. I think this is all about politics,” Munson said.

Munson pointed to a sharp drop in the UnitedHealth’s (UNH) stock — which plunged by nearly $20 in Tuesday’s session. Sanders’ embrace of a national health care system has unsettled health care investors, and even some companies.

“There’s this thought that a socialist is going to do Medicare-For-All,” Munson explained, echoing RBC’s analysis that showed health care, financials and energy have “the highest degree of risk” under a theoretical Sanders presidency.

“Health Care has been one of Sanders’s signature campaign issues, with his support of Medicare for All, capping prescription drug prices, and elimination of medical debt,” the bank wrote.

The policy backdrop would also be onerous for financials,” RBC wrote — based on his embrace of breaking up big banks, re-establishing financial sector firewalls and eliminating student debt, among other things.

 

 
As I heard someone say very recently: stay calm. 

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