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Coaxial
Location: Comfortably numb in So Texas Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:52am |
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ndg wrote:When I was a child I went with my grandmother to wash in the river small village. Summer only That was a tough life...
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:50am |
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Alchemist wrote: Electricity costs vary widely across the US. Where I live it's seasonal and highly progressive. The rates quickly jump 4 fold per KWH the more you use. And the "baseline" amount is a joke, hard to imagine anyone being able to stay below it unless you burn wood for heat, eat raw food, and wash your clothes by beating them on rocks in a stream (where's the emoticon for that?)
Best I could find.
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:19am |
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mzpro5 wrote: Thanks for the warning. In the price range I wanted to stay in almost everything had sealed burners so I'll have to be careful.
The thing that sucked was just one getting shorted with a liquid kills all of them. Several times I had to pull the stove out to undo the screws in back that hold the top on to lift the top and get to the insulators better to clean and dry them. Was easier just to keep a propane BBQ grill lighter handy...
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mzpro5
Location: Budda'spet, Hungry Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:13am |
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DaveInVA wrote: Cool, gas is the way to go. One thing to watch for. If its like the GE Gas stove that came with my last house it will have so called sealed burners. Only problem is spills can still get inside the insulators for the igniters and short them out. On the GE it was a royal pain getting them working again.
Thanks for the warning. In the price range I wanted to stay in almost everything had sealed burners so I'll have to be careful.
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:09am |
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mzpro5 wrote:Well I went with gas and got this today: Nothing fancy but it seems like it will do the job. I like the fact that it has a 14,000 BTU "Power Burner" so that maybe I can finally cook a decent meal in the wok. Won't be delivered until next Tuesday. Cool, gas is the way to go. One thing to watch for. If its like the GE Gas stove that came with my last house it will have so called sealed burners. Only problem is spills can still get inside the insulators for the igniters and short them out. On the GE it was a royal pain getting them working again.
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ndg
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:09am |
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Alquimista escribió: Los costos de electricidad varían ampliamente en los EE.UU.. Donde yo vivo es altamente estacional y progresiva. Las tarifas de saltar rápidamente 4 veces por el KWH la que más uso. Y la "línea de base" cantidad es una broma, difícil imaginar que nadie pueda permanecer por debajo de él a menos que usted se quema la madera para el calor, comer alimentos crudos, y lave su ropa luchando contra las rocas en una corriente (¿dónde está el emoticono para eso? ) When I was a child I went with my grandmother to wash in the river small village. Summer only
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Coaxial
Location: Comfortably numb in So Texas Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:04am |
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mzpro5 wrote:Well I went with gas and got this today: Nothing fancy but it seems like it will do the job. I like the fact that it has a 14,000 BTU "Power Burner" so that maybe I can finally cook a decent meal in the wok. Won't be delivered until next Tuesday. You won't be disappointed with the stove...
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mzpro5
Location: Budda'spet, Hungry Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 11:03am |
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Well I went with gas and got this today: Nothing fancy but it seems like it will do the job. I like the fact that it has a 14,000 BTU "Power Burner" so that maybe I can finally cook a decent meal in the wok. Won't be delivered until next Tuesday.
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Zep
Location: Funkytown
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Apr 26, 2010 - 10:46am |
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Alchemist wrote: Electricity costs vary widely across the US. Where I live it's seasonal and highly progressive. The rates quickly jump 4 fold per KWH the more you use. And the "baseline" amount is a joke, hard to imagine anyone being able to stay below it unless you burn wood for heat, eat raw food, and wash your clothes by beating them on rocks in a stream (where's the emoticon for that?)
The trick here is knowing how much is being used. The way that electrical meters and billing are designed, placed, and processed, it would be a full-time job knowing how much you have used in the current billing cycle. Gas and water are the same, for that matter. If utilities are serious about reducing consumption (and they are not), they would make it possible to know your consumption at any given moment.
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islander
Location: West coast somewhere Gender:
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Apr 26, 2010 - 10:30am |
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Alchemist wrote: Electricity costs vary widely across the US. Where I live it's seasonal and highly progressive. The rates quickly jump 4 fold per KWH the more you use. And the "baseline" amount is a joke, hard to imagine anyone being able to stay below it unless you burn wood for heat, eat raw food, and wash your clothes by beating them on rocks in a stream (where's the emoticon for that?)
We're under $0.07/ KWHr in this region. There are demand charges, but residential customers would really have to try to hit them.
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Apr 25, 2010 - 4:47pm |
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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:we have friends who have a hideously expensive induction stove. they are pretty amazing. Water boils almost instantly. They do not get hot (hence the uncooked egg in the above photo).. and combine the speed of gas with the convenience of ceramic. Downside, they cost about a regular year's savings as you need special pots and pans. I've wondered how well an induction stove works with a wok - I've seen adverts for induction woks but I don't know anyone who has used one - I have used a wok on an electric coil and it's awful, you can't change the temp of the whole pan fast enough, nor can you focus the heat source to a smaller center area like you can with gas. I'm wondering if induction provides that kind of control. I looked at a couple of countertop induction units but - the PRICE! Wow!
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Alchemist
Location: San Jose, CA Gender:
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Apr 25, 2010 - 4:12pm |
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BlueHeronDruid wrote:You'd think, but this is a much smaller house than we've had in the past, and our electric bill is smaller than ever. I have no idea how that works, particularly with our ceilings, but it's true. Around $70 in the non-heating season and about double in winter (Dec., Jan., and Feb.). This was a particularly mild winter, too. Electricity costs vary widely across the US. Where I live it's seasonal and highly progressive. The rates quickly jump 4 fold per KWH the more you use. And the "baseline" amount is a joke, hard to imagine anyone being able to stay below it unless you burn wood for heat, eat raw food, and wash your clothes by beating them on rocks in a stream (where's the emoticon for that?)
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DaveInSaoMiguel
Location: No longer in a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA Gender:
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Apr 25, 2010 - 4:07pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: that's very low indeed. ours for this 900 sf apartment can be $120 in January and over $150 in August.
Try heating and cooling a 4600 sf 1890 Queen Anne. Since it is just me living here and the house has 3 zoned HVAC I can keep areas I don't use at closer to ambient. So far my worst winter month has been $440 for gas/electric/water/trash. This last month which was pretty mild was $161 for gas/elec/water/trash. All those utils are on the same bill from the city that runs them all.
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BlueHeronDruid
Location: Заебани сме луѓе
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Apr 25, 2010 - 4:01pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: that's very low indeed. ours for this 900 sf apartment can be $120 in January and over $150 in August.
Ouch! Yeah, well, the New Joy Sea house was a wonder of power consumption. In summer, the pool pump and two-zone A/C. Since the hot tub was on a separate meter, we know that cost us a dollar a day. Winter? Fuel oil. Yah. Also dual furnaces, but sheesh. Thank heaven we had solar water heating. Glad I'm not running that house anymore. Kinda.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 25, 2010 - 3:52pm |
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BlueHeronDruid wrote:You'd think, but this is a much smaller house than we've had in the past, and our electric bill is smaller than ever. I have no idea how that works, particularly with our ceilings, but it's true. Around $70 in the non-heating season and about double in winter (Dec., Jan., and Feb.). This was a particularly mild winter, too. that's very low indeed. ours for this 900 sf apartment can be $120 in January and over $150 in August.
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BlueHeronDruid
Location: Заебани сме луѓе
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Apr 25, 2010 - 3:49pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: ew. 'spensive.
You'd think, but this is a much smaller house than we've had in the past, and our electric bill is smaller than ever. I have no idea how that works, particularly with our ceilings, but it's true. Around $70 in the non-heating season and about double in winter (Dec., Jan., and Feb.). This was a particularly mild winter, too.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 25, 2010 - 3:46pm |
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BlueHeronDruid wrote: Though we can with the fireplace. Our heat is electric forced air. ew. 'spensive.
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BlueHeronDruid
Location: Заебани сме луѓе
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Apr 25, 2010 - 3:44pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: You guys heat with propane too, right?
Though we can with the fireplace. Our heat is electric forced air. I'm gonna sweet talk hobbitt into this over the course of the next year or so.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 25, 2010 - 3:43pm |
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BlueHeronDruid wrote:Every kitchen I've ever owned until now had a separate cooktop (hob) and wall ovens. Now we have a free-standing range and although I finally have gas cooking (propane), I'm handicapped by having just one oven. It's always something. You guys heat with propane too, right?
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BlueHeronDruid
Location: Заебани сме луѓе
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Apr 25, 2010 - 3:35pm |
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hobiejoe wrote: It's odd, though, that the idea of a seperate hob and oven is seen as strange over your way. It's pretty much standard here - you buy an oven to go under your work top, and a hob to go on top - the two are entirely seperate, hence the prevailing choice of electric oven and gas hob (in modest houses, the more upscale types use huge designer "commercial" ranges so that they can pretend to be Gordon Ramsey. They also tend to drive enormo-SUV's. Pillocks.) Stuff about kitchen kit here Every kitchen I've ever owned until now had a separate cooktop (hob) and wall ovens. Now we have a free-standing range and although I finally have gas cooking (propane), I'm handicapped by having just one oven. It's always something.
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