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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 6:00am

Somehow this is being polarized, us v. them, team against team…rather than the country coming together to look at this and say bullshit!  This trumpism political nonsense is dead.

And maybe you think if minorities stormed the building, they would have been immediately pushed back/contained, or even shot. Probably right.

But I also say if a team of white folks had randomly attacked the capital on any other day, they would have faced the same.

I’m not saying this is the kabal at work, but I’d like an answer as to why the response to yesterday was so mind boggling f’d up.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:58am



 sirdroseph wrote:


Wow, I have to spell it out for you. This poorly planned and thought out event was a golden opportunity for Congress and the alphabet agencies to orchestrate and allow operatives and true protesters to waltz into places that they could have easily prevented them from doing so creating the environment to get Trump to finally concede and remove his power and influence to facilitate an orderly transition of power and silence Trump once and for all. These are the same tactics used in the BLM protest when operatives, some police, some FBI and some Antifa were caught on film perpetuating the violence and even providing cases of bricks strategically placed in hot spot locations. They were successful. I cannot believe you would be so naive to think that protestors could just waltz into the capitol so easily without inside assistance and coordination. Quite frankly I cannot believe I am having to spell this out for you and I have nothing more to say about it. You believe what you like, neither of us have any power to do anything about it anyway.


 
All I can say is WOW... that is a pretty wild fairy-tale that you concocted. You mean some members of Congress orchestrated this knowingly putting themselves in harm's way in an effort to hurt Trump with the end game being him conceding an orderly transition? 🤣 That is some wild shit there bro.
 
If there was anybody behind a dangerous half-baked scheme like this then my money is on Trump... not Congress.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:46am

 black321 wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
Just in case I have to spell it out for you:
 
 
 

This is the real question: Why was it so easy for them, and why did it take so long to get a response?
If my friends and I, bunch of white middle age farts, stormed the capital id bet we would have gotten an appropriate, and harsh response.  
 
And yet people are just going to gloss this over cause everyone got what they wanted.  The only thing that did not go as planned was that poor girl getting shot, I don't believe anyone wanted that.{#Sad} 
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:43am



 Coaxial wrote:

The last four years have been terrible for our country. Maybe your wallet got fatter but your fucking soul shrunk.
 

Are you direct that at me?
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:43am



 sirdroseph wrote:
Just in case I have to spell it out for you:
 
 

This is the real question: Why was it so easy for them, and why did it take so long to get a response?
If my friends and I, bunch of white middle age farts, stormed the capital id bet we would have gotten an appropriate, and harsh response.  
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:40am

 black321 wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 

I recall blm protests led to cities burning, police stations and city blocks taken over, and democrats excusing the violence...mostly peaceful, sure, but still plenty of violence.
excuses for leftist violence, but condemnation for violence from the right only makes these comparisons about police response to BLM vs yesterday foolish....
again, i get the point....but argue this gives those on the right fodder to argue the same, and thereby diminish the argument of how what happened yesterday was so terrible for the country...reinforces team positions, rather than bringing the country together to condemn this.  
 
The last four years have been terrible for our country. Maybe your wallet got fatter but your fucking soul shrunk.
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:37am



 sirdroseph wrote:
Wow, I have to spell it out for you. This poorly planned and thought out event was a golden opportunity for Congress and the alphabet agencies to orchestrate and allow operatives and true protesters to waltz into places that they could have easily prevented them from doing so creating the environment to get Trump to finally concede and remove his power and influence to facilitate an orderly transition of power and silence Trump once and for all. These are the same tactics used in the BLM protest when operatives, some police, some FBI and some Antifa were caught on film perpetuating the violence and even providing cases of bricks strategically placed in hot spot locations. They were successful. I cannot believe you would be so naive to think that protestors could just waltz into the capitol so easily without inside assistance and coordination. Quite frankly I cannot believe I am having to spell this out for you and I have nothing more to say about it. You believe what you like, neither of us have any power to do anything about it anyway.
 

And the woman killed was just unfortunate collateral damage? 

Or was her reported death just Fake News?
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:35am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 

I recall blm protests led to cities burning, police stations and city blocks taken over, and democrats excusing the violence...mostly peaceful, sure, but still plenty of violence.
excuses for leftist violence, but condemnation for violence from the right only makes these comparisons about police response to BLM vs yesterday foolish....
again, i get the point....but argue this gives those on the right fodder to argue the same, and thereby diminish the argument of how what happened yesterday was so terrible for the country...reinforces team positions, rather than bringing the country together to condemn this.  
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:28am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Like I thought..  {#Propeller}

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you!
 
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:23am

 sirdroseph wrote:
Wow, I have to spell it out for you.  This poorly planned and thought out event was a golden opportunity for Congress and the alphabet agencies to orchestrate and allow operatives and true protesters to waltz into places that they could have easily prevented them from doing so creating the environment to get Trump to finally concede and remove his power and influence to facilitate an orderly transition of power and silence Trump once and for all.  These are the same tactics used in the BLM protest when operatives, some police, some FBI and some Antifa were caught on film perpetuating the violence and even providing cases of bricks strategically placed in hot spot locations.  They were successful.  I cannot believe you would be so naive to think that protestors could just waltz into the capitol so easily without inside assistance and coordination.  Quite frankly I cannot believe I am having to spell this out for you and I have nothing more to say about it.  You believe what you like, neither of us have any power to do anything about it anyway.
 
Like I thought..  {#Propeller}

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you!
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:18am

 VV wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:

You are the one obsessed with Trump and think that I give a rat's ass about him one way or the other. If you do not see what is really going on then I can't help you.
 
Help me understand as well. Are you saying that Trump used his power/influence to get word to the guards to let the masses into the Capitol because somehow in Trump's twisted mind he thought they could influence the outcome? Perhaps some in the crowd were tasked with trying to steal the electorate vote boxes as to throw things into a bigger turmoil?
 
If that is the case then the events of yesterday were more coordinated and even worse than I imagined.

If that is the case then I hope that story comes out... sooner than later and Trump is removed from office ASAP.
 
Wow, I have to spell it out for you.  This poorly planned and thought out event was a golden opportunity for Congress and the alphabet agencies to orchestrate and allow operatives and true protesters to waltz into places that they could have easily prevented them from doing so creating the environment to get Trump to finally concede and remove his power and influence to facilitate an orderly transition of power and silence Trump once and for all.  These are the same tactics used in the BLM protest when operatives, some police, some FBI and some Antifa were caught on film perpetuating the violence and even providing cases of bricks strategically placed in hot spot locations.  They were successful.  I cannot believe you would be so naive to think that protestors could just waltz into the capitol so easily without inside assistance and coordination.  Quite frankly I cannot believe I am having to spell this out for you and I have nothing more to say about it.  You believe what you like, neither of us have any power to do anything about it anyway.
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 5:07am



 sirdroseph wrote:

You are the one obsessed with Trump and think that I give a rat's ass about him one way or the other. If you do not see what is really going on then I can't help you.
 
Help me understand as well. Are you saying that Trump used his power/influence to get word to the guards to let the masses into the Capitol because somehow in Trump's twisted mind he thought they could influence the outcome? Perhaps some in the crowd were tasked with trying to steal the electorate vote boxes as to throw things into a bigger turmoil?
 
If that is the case then the events of yesterday were more coordinated and even worse than I imagined.

If that is the case then I hope that story comes out... sooner than later and Trump is removed from office ASAP.
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:52am

 sirdroseph wrote:

You are the one obsessed with Trump and think that I give a rat's ass about him one way or the other. If you do not see what is really going on than I can't help you.
 
oh, please enlighten me, incisive one. I am genuinely intrigued as to how you spin this.
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:51am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

oh! I get it. Trump is in cahoots with the establishment by staging a half-arsed insurrection just so as to discredit his supporters and sway public opinion back towards the political establishment.
So glad we had such a sane and reasonable 45th to bring the ship of state back on course..

 {#Propeller}

 
You are the one obsessed with Trump and think that I give a rat's ass about him one way or the other. If you do not see what is really going on then I can't help you.
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:50am

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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:43am

 sirdroseph wrote:
And just in case you still don't get it:
 
 
oh! I get it. Trump is in cahoots with the establishment by staging a half-arsed insurrection just so as to discredit his supporters and sway public opinion back towards the political establishment.
So glad we had such a sane and reasonable 45th to bring the ship of state back on course..

 {#Propeller}

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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:21am

And just in case you still don't get it:
 
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:20am

Just in case I have to spell it out for you:
 
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 4:06am

 buddy wrote:
 There was plenty of racism on display in this. Perhaps you’re just blind to it.
 
case in point
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Posted: Jan 7, 2021 - 3:36am

So kurtster denounces the actions of yesterday’s mob? That is akin to me saying that I’m against people that murder other people. Not really going out on a limb to state the obvious.
 
How about finally denouncing the person that spurred them on to that course of action instead? A good dose of self-realization might do you some good.
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