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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 10:55am

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Yeah that truth and reconciliation thing is really a messy business. It's like you have to vet all the regret and then render judgment based on some personal criteria, but where does it end?

Nothing personal.

Article 2, paragraph 4:
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 10:31am

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More American lies about China. Good grief.


Hurrah for the Tribe of Innocent Moralizers! Let us instead celebrate the integrity of a man (partly) responsible for the deaths of who knows how many Muslims (Iraq, Syria, etc.) and all with zero accountability.
 
Yeah that truth and reconciliation thing is really a messy business. It's like you have to vet all the regret and then render judgment based on some personal criteria, but where does it end?  Is the belly full of substance or bloated from emptiness? Rhetorical innocence is a death spiral. We live as one or die as a species. One can see that it's happening. We like stuff. We like power. We like the stuff of power. It belongs to us, and we're keeping it real on the internet. We're going to Mars! We're taming the stars! 

Well actually, no. We're not. We're having our priorities shoved right down into our bloated sense of importance...


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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 9:57am

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More American lies about China.

Good grief.


Hurrah for the Tribe of Innocent Moralizers!

Let us instead take a moment to celebrate the integrity of a man (partly) responsible for the deaths of who knows how many Muslims (Iraq, Syria, etc.) and all with zero accountability.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 8:08am

More American lies about China.

Good grief.
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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 4:07am

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Douthat: Not enough propaganda/demonization of China in Hollywood movies!
Americans have never exactly excelled at understanding other societies, and a few Chinese bad guys in James Bond movies obviously won’t shed the light we need. But Hollywood’s supine attitude toward Chinese power is a useful window into a larger problem: We need to see our great 21st-century rival clearly, and too often we see only through a glass darkly, if at all.

Washington Hears Echoes of the ’50s and Worries: Is This a Cold War With China?


the chinese communist party is legitimately doing enough horrible stuff
extinction level force initiated by the ccp in order to reach the goal of ethnic han supremacy
we really don't have to sensationalize anything
just the facts should do it

Uyghur genocide

The Uyghur genocide is the characterization of the series of human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang as genocide. Since 2014, the Chinese government under the direction of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) during the administration of CCP general secretary Xi Jinping has pursued policies that incarcerated more than an estimated one million Muslims (the majority of them Uyghurs) in internment camps without any legal process. This was the largest-scale detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II. Thousands of mosques were destroyed or damaged, and hundreds of thousands of children were forcibly separated from their parents and sent to boarding schools.

Government policies have included the arbitrary detention of Uyghurs in state-sponsored internment camps, forced labor, suppression of Uyghur religious practices, political indoctrination, severe ill-treatment, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion. Chinese government statistics reported that from 2015 to 2018, birth rates in the mostly Uyghur regions of Hotan and Kashgar fell by more than 60%. In the same period, the birth rate of the whole country decreased by 9.69%, from 12.07 to 10.9 per 1,000 people. Chinese authorities acknowledged that birth rates dropped by almost a third in 2018 in Xinjiang, but denied reports of forced sterilization and genocide. Birth rates in Xinjiang fell a further 24% in 2019 (compared to a nationwide decrease of 4.2%).

At first, these actions were described as the forced assimilation of Xinjiang, and an ethnocide or cultural genocide. As more details emerged, some governments, activists, independent NGOs, human rights experts, academics and the East Turkistan Government-in-Exile termed it genocide, pointing to the definition laid out in the Genocide Convention.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 2:29pm

Douthat: Not enough propaganda/demonization of China in Hollywood movies!
Americans have never exactly excelled at understanding other societies, and a few Chinese bad guys in James Bond movies obviously won’t shed the light we need. But Hollywood’s supine attitude toward Chinese power is a useful window into a larger problem: We need to see our great 21st-century rival clearly, and too often we see only through a glass darkly, if at all.

Washington Hears Echoes of the ’50s and Worries: Is This a Cold War With China?
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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 8:02pm

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"It is by coffee alone that I set my life in motion. It is by the juice of caffeine that the thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning."
 
perfecto! {#Notworthy}
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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 7:57pm

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"It is by coffee alone that I set my life in motion. It is by the juice of caffeine that the thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning."
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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 7:50pm

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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 7:18pm

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China is laughing its azz off over the $4.5T the Dems want to spend on communist style goodies for all, and takedown of capitalist pigs running the country.

Hey Nancy’s gona get a loan from from China.

China fine print, we own your Azz Biotches! 

God, I’ve been watching this country go down the path to ruin all in the name of GREED.

Really, really sad state of affairs. We’re footing the bill for China’s buildup of their country and military which, in a not too long future, we will be at war with. WW III.
 





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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 5:56pm

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China is laughing its azz off over the $4.5T the Dems want to spend on communist style goodies for all, and takedown of capitalist pigs running the country.

Hey Nancy’s gona get a loan from from China.

China fine print, we own your Azz Biotches! 

God, I’ve been watching this country go down the path to ruin all in the name of GREED.

Really, really sad state of affairs. We’re footing the bill for China’s buildup of their country and military which, in a not too long future, we will be at war with. WW III.
 
 
Gene, I don't mean to invalidate your feelings or anger here, but your tag reads "On the edge of tomorrow looking back at yesterday". Don't look back, Gene. Have steely courage in the face of despair. That's something you can do calmly and deliberately.
Keep those you love in your heart and leave room for the occasional straggler...
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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 4:22pm

China is laughing its azz off over the $4.5T the Dems want to spend on communist style goodies for all, and takedown of capitalist pigs running the country.

Hey Nancy’s gona get a loan from from China.

China fine print, we own your Azz Biotches! 

God, I’ve been watching this country go down the path to ruin all in the name of GREED.

Really, really sad state of affairs. We’re footing the bill for China’s buildup of their country and military which, in a not too long future, we will be at war with. WW III.
 
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Posted: Aug 11, 2021 - 8:15am

A video shown today by data analysts and investigators during the Mike Lindell Cyber Symposium.  The primary aspect to the presentation surrounds the financial resources spent by China and George Soros to fund specific companies holding operational control over the 2020 election tabulation systems.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2021 - 6:56am

The United States Underestimates China’s Economic Challenge at Its Own Peril

Today, the challenge offered by China to the United States and indeed the capitalist world economy is a model that departs sharply from the private laissez-faire model of capitalism that has prevailed in global capitalism to date. In the latter model, the government is called in (à la Keynes) only when crises hit and threaten private capitalism. And then the government’s economic interventions are constricted in scope and reach and are temporary in time. Minimal government regulation and minimal direct production of goods and services by government are the key rules.

In contrast, in China, the Communist Party and the state intervene much more in economic affairs by regulating private businesses (foreign and domestic) more and also by having the state own and operate businesses. What results for the party and the state is an overarching control of economic development. That control, in its extent and duration, far exceeds the governments’ role in western Europe, North America, and Japan. Having the party and state as collaborative entities pushing determined policies enables the regular mobilization of most private and public resources to achieve agreed goals. Chief among the goals has been economic development to escape the endemic poverty of southern Asia.
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Posted: Jul 19, 2021 - 12:18pm

Eisenhower rejected military chiefs’ demand for nuclear war on China, classified account of ’58 Taiwan Strait crisis reveals
Fearing a new conflict over Taiwan, Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg has released a shocking account showing how the Joint Chiefs pressed Eisenhower to launch a nuclear war on China.

A May 22 New York Times report on the account offered only general details of the role the US Joint Chiefs of Staff played in the run-up to the 1958 Taiwan crisis. However, it is now clear from the original highly classified documents as well as other evidence now available that from the beginning, the Joint Chiefs aimed first and foremost to exploit the tensions to carry out nuclear strikes against Chinese nuclear military targets deep in highly-populated areas.

Chiang Kai-shek’s nationalist Kuomintang regime and the Joint Chiefs were allies in wanting to embroil the United States in a war with China. (...)

According to the account authored by Halperin, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Air Force Gen. Nathan Twining, told State Department officials in an August meeting that the third phase would require nuclear strikes on Chinese bases as far north as Shanghai.

The Joint Chiefs played down the threat to civilian casualties from such tactical atomic weapons, emphasizing that an airburst of tactical atomic explosions would generate little radioactive fallout. But the account indicates that they provided no concrete information on expected civilian casualties.

Given the fact that both the Chinese gun emplacements across the Taiwan Strait and a key airbase serving the Chinese military forces in any conflict over the offshore islands would have been located close to significant population centers, such atomic explosions would have certainly caused civilian casualties on a massive scale. (...)

When Secretary of State John Foster Dulles warned that Japan would object strongly to using nuclear weapons against the Chinese mainland, and forbid the launching of nuclear weapons from their territory, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Arleigh Burke suggested that the opposition to nuclear weapons in Japan was “inspired by the Communists,” and that foreign leaders would soon recognize that the use of nuclear weapons by the US “was in their interests”.

Burke closed his argument by claiming that if the US did not maintain the threat of tactical nuclear weapons in conflicts, it would “lose the entire world within three years.” That obviously absurd argument suggests that the intense desire among the Joint Chiefs to use nuclear weapons against China was less motivated by any threat from Communist Chinese than by their own institutional interests. (...)

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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 2:31pm

But more frequently than not, the companies comply with law enforcement demands. And that underlines an awkward truth: As their products become more central to people’s lives, the world’s largest tech companies have become surveillance intermediaries and crucial partners to authorities, with the power to arbitrate which requests to honor and which to reject.

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Posted: Jun 12, 2021 - 6:13pm

Biden Tries to Rally G7 Nations to Counter China’s Influence
The president urged the leaders of wealthy democracies to offer hundreds of billions in loans to developing nations in a direct challenge to Beijing’s Belt-and-Road Initiative.
But the White House cited no financial commitments, and there is sharp disagreement among the United States and its allies about how to respond to China’s rising power.

Mr. Biden has made challenging a rising China and a disruptive Russia the centerpiece of a foreign policy designed to build up democracies around the world as a bulwark against spreading authoritarianism. Beijing, for its part, has pointed to the poor U.S. response to the pandemic and divisive American politics — particularly the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol — as signs that democracy is failing.
Biden seems to have picked up another Trump trick: get other people to pay for your pet projects.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2021 - 2:37pm

The Senate is expected to pass industrial policy legislation to counter China.
Faced with an urgent competitive threat from China, the Senate is poised to pass the most expansive industrial policy legislation in U.S. history, blowing past partisan divisions over government support for private industry to embrace a nearly quarter-trillion-dollar investment in building up America’s manufacturing and technological edge.

The legislation, which is scheduled for a vote on Tuesday afternoon, is expected to pass by a  large margin. That alone is a testament to how commercial and military competition with Beijing has become one of the few issues that can unite both political parties.

It is an especially striking shift for Republicans, who are following the lead of former President Donald J. Trump and casting aside what was once their party’s staunch opposition to government intervention in the economy. Now, both parties are embracing an enormous investment in semiconductor manufacturing, artificial intelligence research, robotics, quantum computing and a range of other technologies.

And while the bill’s sponsors are selling it in part as a jobs plan, the debate over its passage has been laced with Cold War references and warnings that a failure to act would leave the United States perilously dependent on its biggest geopolitical adversary.
The CPA (Capitalist Party of America) supports The People's Industries to counter foreign imperialism!
Ms. Fazili said that cabinet departments had embarked on a governmentwide effort “to really diagnose the problems, understand what’s going on out there in these markets, and see what actions can be taken to close those vulnerabilities.”

As part of the initiative, the Department of Agriculture has allocated more than $4 billion to bolster “a resilient food supply chain” that would prevent or lessen shortages, she added.

The initiative was bundled with the creation of “trade strike force” targeting China and other countries to push back “on unfair foreign competition, unfair foreign subsidies and other trade practices that have adversely impacted U.S. manufacturing.”

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Posted: Jun 6, 2021 - 11:49am

Accountability and reparations! For others...

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