Dire Straits — The Man's Too Strong
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I'm just an aging drummer boy
And in the wars I used to play
And I've called the tune
To many a torture session
Now they say I am a war criminal
And I'm fading away
Father please hear my confession
I have legalised robbery
Called it belief
I have run with the money
I have hid like a thief
Re-written history
With my armies and my crooks
Invented memories
I did burn all the books
And I can still hear his laughter
And I can still hear his song
The man's too big
The man's too strong
Well I tried to be meek
I have tried to be mild
But I spat like a woman
And I sulked like a child
I have lived behind walls
That have made me alone
Striven for peace
Which I never have known
And I can still hear his laughter
And I can still hear his song
The man's too big
The man's too strong
Well the sun rose on the courtyard
And they all did hear him say
'You always was a Judas
But I got you anyway
You may have got your silver
But I swear upon my life
Your sister gave me diamonds
And I give 'em to your wife'
Oh Father please help me
For I have done wrong
The man's too big
The man's too strong
And in the wars I used to play
And I've called the tune
To many a torture session
Now they say I am a war criminal
And I'm fading away
Father please hear my confession
I have legalised robbery
Called it belief
I have run with the money
I have hid like a thief
Re-written history
With my armies and my crooks
Invented memories
I did burn all the books
And I can still hear his laughter
And I can still hear his song
The man's too big
The man's too strong
Well I tried to be meek
I have tried to be mild
But I spat like a woman
And I sulked like a child
I have lived behind walls
That have made me alone
Striven for peace
Which I never have known
And I can still hear his laughter
And I can still hear his song
The man's too big
The man's too strong
Well the sun rose on the courtyard
And they all did hear him say
'You always was a Judas
But I got you anyway
You may have got your silver
But I swear upon my life
Your sister gave me diamonds
And I give 'em to your wife'
Oh Father please help me
For I have done wrong
The man's too big
The man's too strong
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Mark is selling 120 of his guitars in auction this month, yes 120 ! you can see them on his site
priceless masterpiece
Listening to this superb track opens up those great memories of when I saw them play at Solomons Pool in Jerusalem,sheer magic👍
Beanie wrote:
oh I really hope you are still friend with that guy to this day, that is definitely someone worth making friends with.
In May 1986, I got dumped by my longtime boyfriend, and I was fairly despondent. The guy across the hall from me had just bought one of the very first Sony Discman players. He brought it over, with this album in it, for me to listen to. I remember listening to that album over and over, and this song in particular, and thinking I'd never heard anything so mind-blowing in my life. I still have to turn it up every time it comes on.
oh I really hope you are still friend with that guy to this day, that is definitely someone worth making friends with.
1st, I really like the song.
2nd, Who ever did the slide show for this song REALLY missed the point. Should have been 80s guys with slicked back hair and expensive suits and such, not weightlifters.
2nd, Who ever did the slide show for this song REALLY missed the point. Should have been 80s guys with slicked back hair and expensive suits and such, not weightlifters.
Osbo wrote:
Love you man! The kids in the car next door may get a chuckle as they watch my spastic undulations, but I (without a care) will continue to express my love for the music . . grey hair not withstanding!
WORD (but with just a grey beard)
Love you man! The kids in the car next door may get a chuckle as they watch my spastic undulations, but I (without a care) will continue to express my love for the music . . grey hair not withstanding!
WORD (but with just a grey beard)
Just listened to Whispers of Gethsemane after reading the comment by
Cynaera. Just one more thing to love about RP.
Cynaera. Just one more thing to love about RP.
Cynaera wrote:
Listening to the song today, with what's going on in Ukraine made me think of one person it could apply to...there will always be one or more. The song is just great as is a lot of Dire Straits' work.
I never really attributed this song to one particular person - I sort of figured it was a metaphor for Satan, or politics in general. I was young and stupid, though - I just loved the SONG and didn't read much into it. That gorgeous National Steel guitar (I know something about it, but I can't remember what, at this point - I think it has something to do with Mike Nesmith, late of The Monkees.)
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Listening to the song today, with what's going on in Ukraine made me think of one person it could apply to...there will always be one or more. The song is just great as is a lot of Dire Straits' work.
scrubbrush wrote:
I completely agree. Dire Straits has far more staying power than the Beatles for me.
Of course your opinion is very important while discussing these bands.
I completely agree. Dire Straits has far more staying power than the Beatles for me.
Of course your opinion is very important while discussing these bands.
This man (Mark) is really too strong... in writing songs 
Zombie by the Cranberries, Nothing as it seems by Pearl Jam, and now The Man's To Strong by Dire Straits...
In memory of those who fighted... just for the dust.
In memory of those who fighted... just for the dust.
Michaeljcovel wrote:
Yep, B Side has the title track ... which, IMHO and in one song, out shines all the commercial appeal of the A Side.
I can also offer for all those waxing poetic about how good the CD sounded the LP still sounds stunning to this day as well.
Great Album👏 The B Side was so different but as good as the A Side
Yep, B Side has the title track ... which, IMHO and in one song, out shines all the commercial appeal of the A Side.
I can also offer for all those waxing poetic about how good the CD sounded the LP still sounds stunning to this day as well.
I got this when it came out. The Money for Nothing and Walk of Life are the weak ones, but certainly paid for the production. The rest of the album, especially this song, with its dynamics, are outstanding.
Beanie wrote:
Ha! I just started posting this again and realized that I had already told the story. Strong memory for sure.
That's OK. It's a story worth re-telling. And for those of us who are reading it for the 1st time, good story.
Ha! I just started posting this again and realized that I had already told the story. Strong memory for sure.
That's OK. It's a story worth re-telling. And for those of us who are reading it for the 1st time, good story.
Knopfler's vocals - and guitar - evoke strong memories of listening to Communique in my late dad's Ford 1/2 ton bouncing down dusty gravel roads deep in the BC bush, looking for stands of cedar.
Miss u, Dad.
What a masterpiece of an album.
Miss u, Dad.
What a masterpiece of an album.
dandueck07 wrote:
Love you man! The kids in the car next door may get a chuckle as they watch my spastic undulations, but I (without a care) will continue to express my love for the music . . grey hair not withstanding!
Some songs get me snapping my head in a violent groove to the music. This one gets me every time. I sometimes wonder what people in vehicles next to me at traffic lights think is happening to the grey-hair in the pick-up truck next to them. I, of course, only ponder this after the song is over.
Love you man! The kids in the car next door may get a chuckle as they watch my spastic undulations, but I (without a care) will continue to express my love for the music . . grey hair not withstanding!
Some songs get me snapping my head in a violent groove to the music. This one gets me every time. I sometimes wonder what people in vehicles next to me at traffic lights think is happening to the grey-hair in the pick-up truck next to them. I, of course, only ponder this after the song is over.
Beanie wrote:
Ha! I just started posting this again and realized that I had already told the story. Strong memory for sure.
In May 1986, I got dumped by my longtime boyfriend, and I was fairly despondent. The guy across the hall from me had just bought one of the very first Sony Discman players. He brought it over, with this album in it, for me to listen to. I remember listening to that album over and over, and this song in particular, and thinking I'd never heard anything so mind-blowing in my life. I still have to turn it up every time it comes on.
Ha! I just started posting this again and realized that I had already told the story. Strong memory for sure.
Such a great song.
Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler still remain unique in their uniqueness !
Great Album👏
The B Side was so different but as good as the A Side
sublime
Richard_Gold wrote:
I certainly hope you found a new girlfriend ;-)
Saw the tour of this album - girlfriend wasn't very happy when I told her that the experience was better than sex.
I certainly hope you found a new girlfriend ;-)
Saw the tour of this album - girlfriend wasn't very happy when I told her that the experience was better than sex.
Tomasni wrote:To me 9 - O U T S T A N D I N G
plaid wrote:
Similarly, when I bought my first CD player at Circuit City (RIP), I brought Brothers in Arms to see if this new technology was for me. Ironically a friend with a high end stereo had this on vinyl which sounded even better but that is another debate.
Brothers In Arms was the first CD I ever bought, the night I got my first CD player as a gift from my parents in 1989 or so. Still have that CD, and I still play those tracks regularly. This song is a solid 10 on a solid 10 album.
Similarly, when I bought my first CD player at Circuit City (RIP), I brought Brothers in Arms to see if this new technology was for me. Ironically a friend with a high end stereo had this on vinyl which sounded even better but that is another debate.
"Wahrs."
Love his pronunciation.
Love his pronunciation.
Back in 2012 rdo wrote:
Didn't happen. Palin's evil twin-brother was elected president.
Palin 2016!
Didn't happen. Palin's evil twin-brother was elected president.
oh the days when....
A great live band for sure.
Live music is better.
Bumper Stickers Should Be Issued.
A great live band for sure.
Live music is better.
Bumper Stickers Should Be Issued.
In May 1986, I got dumped by my longtime boyfriend, and I was fairly despondent. The guy across the hall from me had just bought one of the very first Sony Discman players. He brought it over, with this album in it, for me to listen to. I remember listening to that album over and over, and this song in particular, and thinking I'd never heard anything so mind-blowing in my life. I still have to turn it up every time it comes on.
Brothers In Arms was the first CD I ever bought, the night I got my first CD player as a gift from my parents in 1989 or so. Still have that CD, and I still play those tracks regularly. This song is a solid 10 on a solid 10 album.
politics suck. 
great song 
LizK wrote:
Seven years ago, the US economy was shedding 400K jobs a month. Today, the unemployment figure is under 5%; factoring in under-employment, people who have left the market due to discouragement, and part-timers who are looking for full-time, the figure is 9%. The only people who still using your figures and grousing about the B....K guy in Washington are Limbaugh listeners. I do take a look at the rest of the world politically, Obama looks like a genius, and W is still quiet in Dallas.
great song LizK wrote:Seven years ago, the US economy was shedding 400K jobs a month. Today, the unemployment figure is under 5%; factoring in under-employment, people who have left the market due to discouragement, and part-timers who are looking for full-time, the figure is 9%. The only people who still using your figures and grousing about the B....K guy in Washington are Limbaugh listeners. I do take a look at the rest of the world politically, Obama looks like a genius, and W is still quiet in Dallas.
This is just a great album. And... please leave the politics for elsewhere in your postings. I don't care what either one of you think, I just come hear to get away from all that drivel.
maxjboxer wrote:
TerryS wrote:
Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing. Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing.
Seven years ago, the US economy was shedding 400K jobs a month. Today, the unemployment figure is under 5%; factoring in under-employment, people who have left the market due to discouragement, and part-timers who are looking for full-time, the figure is 9%. The only people who still using your figures and grousing about the B....K guy in Washington are Limbaugh listeners. I do take a look at the rest of the world politically, Obama looks like a genius, and W is still quiet in Dallas.
TerryS wrote:
Mr Daigoro said in 2009 (pre-reply engine days on this site):
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing. Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing.
Seven years ago, the US economy was shedding 400K jobs a month. Today, the unemployment figure is under 5%; factoring in under-employment, people who have left the market due to discouragement, and part-timers who are looking for full-time, the figure is 9%. The only people who still using your figures and grousing about the B....K guy in Washington are Limbaugh listeners. I do take a look at the rest of the world politically, Obama looks like a genius, and W is still quiet in Dallas.
One of the best of Dire Straits. With that said it's tough to pick the best as most of all their songs are great. At least in this man's opinion.
TerryS wrote:
Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing.
Mr Daigoro said in 2009 (pre-reply engine days on this site):
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing.
thediceareloaded wrote:
I completely agree. Dire Straits has far more staying power than the Beatles for me.
Honestly, while I can recognize the Beatles for everything they did, I never listen to them in private. They just never did it for me, no offense. If they come on on rp, I usually use the psd button. Dire Straits on the other hand, oh boy. Bring it on
MMBAIL wrote:
MMBAIL wrote:
Dire Straights was a very good band, but RP overplays their songs way too much. One would think they were in the same league Beatles by the frequency of airtime they get on RP.
I completely agree. Dire Straits has far more staying power than the Beatles for me.
Honestly, while I can recognize the Beatles for everything they did, I never listen to them in private. They just never did it for me, no offense. If they come on on rp, I usually use the psd button. Dire Straits on the other hand, oh boy. Bring it on
MMBAIL wrote:
MMBAIL wrote:
Dire Straights was a very good band, but RP overplays their songs way too much. One would think they were in the same league Beatles by the frequency of airtime they get on RP.
Mr Daigoro said in 2009 (pre-reply engine days on this site):
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
rdo wrote:
I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound very healthy.
This is one of the few Dire Straits songs I like. They just don't do it for me. I like bands that tear out my insides and dip them in burning hot acid.
I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound very healthy.
jmassoglia wrote:
Well said/quoted.
'The band also took full advantage of the advances in production techniques available to them at that time. The result was an album that drove home to even the last uninitiated chump out there that Dire Straits were a musical force to reckon with, and that the success of their prior albums had not been coincidence alone." Amazon Review
- Couldn't have said it better myself...
- Couldn't have said it better myself...
Well said/quoted.
'The band also took full advantage of the advances in production techniques available to them at that time. The result was an album that drove home to even the last uninitiated chump out there that Dire Straits were a musical force to reckon with, and that the success of their prior albums had not been coincidence alone." Amazon Review
- Couldn't have said it better myself...
- Couldn't have said it better myself...
Listened to this brilliant album constantly from release date until the early 90s. Good to hear this song on RP today. Thank you.
Not the best track on the album, especially as I can hear that horrid "Privateer" song mingled in it, but the album overall was a stormer and well worth the purchase.
ps 30 years ago nearly. Good God.
ps 30 years ago nearly. Good God.
great song for the day Cheney kicks it
MMBAIL wrote:
Interesting. You think the Beatles are in a higher league than Dire Straights? Is that an official league that we must all subscribe to? Or is it something you made up on your own?
Just sayin' - No offence :)
Dire Straights was a very good band, but RP overplays their songs way too much. One would think they were in the same league Beatles by the frequency of airtime they get on RP.
Interesting. You think the Beatles are in a higher league than Dire Straights? Is that an official league that we must all subscribe to? Or is it something you made up on your own?
Just sayin' - No offence :)
MMBAIL wrote:
Hmmm... play MORE Dire Straits, please!!! :)
Dire Straights was a very good band, but RP overplays their songs way too much. One would think they were in the same league Beatles by the frequency of airtime they get on RP.
Hmmm... play MORE Dire Straits, please!!! :)
Dire Straights was a very good band, but RP overplays their songs way too much. One would think they were in the same league Beatles by the frequency of airtime they get on RP.
hugogdt wrote:
Sounds about right. Certainly not my favorite song of theirs, but still a very solid offering.
Even if it is not the best of this magnific album, it is just GREAT listening to this piece of fantastic music again.
Sounds about right. Certainly not my favorite song of theirs, but still a very solid offering.
Knophler rocks,and has been original for decades. Pretty amazing.
This sums up what Dire Straits were.
So many of their songs have become dated - overplayed so much, we cringe when we hear them.
This song, however, captures the essence of the band like no other they did. Ironic considering it wasn't a popular one overall.
So many of their songs have become dated - overplayed so much, we cringe when we hear them.
This song, however, captures the essence of the band like no other they did. Ironic considering it wasn't a popular one overall.
Even if it is not the best of this magnific album, it is just GREAT listening to this piece of fantastic music again.
Candela wrote:
Me too<3!
I love Dire Straits.. always will. 
Me too<3!
I remember hearing this for the first time in the 80's, amidst the overwhelming stench of hair bands and whiney synth-pop, and thinking "Wow. Maybe rock-n-roll isn't dead yet!"
I love Dire Straits.. always will.
Cynaera wrote:
Miss you so much, Cynaera...
everybody in my humble churches loves this song... but I digress...
Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn’t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence -- evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded. It doesn’t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn’t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition...
Welcome to the ever-progressive world of RadioParadise. 
Sometimes, I think everyone's comments should automatically be prefaced with, "...But I digress..." (Only halfway serious here, since today, I'm not taking anything seriously.)
Sometimes, I think everyone's comments should automatically be prefaced with, "...But I digress..." (Only halfway serious here, since today, I'm not taking anything seriously.)Miss you so much, Cynaera...
everybody in my humble churches loves this song... but I digress...
Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn’t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence -- evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded. It doesn’t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn’t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition...
This is one of the few Dire Straits songs I like. They just don't do it for me. I like bands that tear out my insides and dip them in burning hot acid.
There is great energy in the Radio Paradise Force today.
Hyperemesis wrote:
Huh?
One of the best. Peter Gabriel ♥
Huh?
One of the best. Peter Gabriel ♥
Stratocaster wrote:
Yeah, I did also. I bought a CD player at what was then Circuit City and got this disc to test it out. Ironically, I heard this on vinyl at a friend's house who had a high end audio system and the vinyl blew the CD away in an AB comparison.
BTW, this was the first Compact Disc I ever bought, in 1986.
Yeah, I did also. I bought a CD player at what was then Circuit City and got this disc to test it out. Ironically, I heard this on vinyl at a friend's house who had a high end audio system and the vinyl blew the CD away in an AB comparison.
TJS wrote:
I second that emotion
No question in my mind that this is a 10.
I second that emotion
Palin 2016!
No question in my mind that this is a 10.
love this track...
Not as keen on this album as I am with MK's more recent solo stuff...but it's still damn good.
this song makes me crying for happiness!
Good song from a gooood album
Jadore
BTW, this was the first Compact Disc I ever bought, in 1986.
so good
Thanks for reminding me of an album I once loved, and for some unknown reason I seem to have neglected for many years.
Crisp, tight, melodic, stops me in my tracks. This album and their first (named 'Dire Straits' but everyone calls it 'Vertigo') are masterpieces, IMHO.
As a guitar player, I have strived for his tone. Unsuccessfully.
As a guitar player, I have strived for his tone. Unsuccessfully.
papaman wrote:
If you substitute "biggest" for "best" in rule 3, you've pretty much summed Dick up.
On Cheney -
Most self-help books, religions and life mentors deliver the same basic message:
1. Don't be a Dick.
2. If you are a Dick, Stop!
3. If you can't stop, then be the best Dick you can be.
Most self-help books, religions and life mentors deliver the same basic message:
1. Don't be a Dick.
2. If you are a Dick, Stop!
3. If you can't stop, then be the best Dick you can be.
If you substitute "biggest" for "best" in rule 3, you've pretty much summed Dick up.
sirdroseph wrote:
Oh I disagree, this album is not only their best, but one of the best albums of the 80's!
Oh I disagree, this album is not only their best, but one of the best albums of the 80's!
CoYoT51 wrote:
Oh I disagree, this album is not only their best, but one of the best albums of the 80's!
Not their best song, not their best album... but wooaaahhh... still strong!
What a great band they were!
What a great band they were!
Oh I disagree, this album is not only their best, but one of the best albums of the 80's!
LastChance wrote: Sometimes, I think everyone's comments should automatically be prefaced with, "...But I digress..." (Only halfway serious here, since today, I'm not taking anything seriously.)
I thought this comment area was to talk about music. . .
Welcome to the ever-progressive world of RadioParadise. Sometimes, I think everyone's comments should automatically be prefaced with, "...But I digress..." (Only halfway serious here, since today, I'm not taking anything seriously.)I've got it on Vinyl form rbigelo wrote:
I still have the original, digitally-mastered CD of "Brothers in Arms" on my 'top shelf' plus the digital edition. It is right there alongside "Love Over Gold."
Cynaera wrote:
Yeah I think this was the second CD I ever listened to (After Digital Domains, some CD that was just a mix of different cool sounds to show off the purity of CD sound). My brother had blown a huge amount on a giant Pioneer stereo system with speakers as big as the monolith in 2001 a Space Odyssey, and a few of us sat (basically between the two speakers) in his dorm room and listened to this CD. It might be a little dated now but at the time it was just the best damn CD in the world, from lyrics to composition to production. Of course I didn't know any of that then, I just new it was cool.
I never really attributed this song to one particular person - I sort of figured it was a metaphor for Satan, or politics in general. I was young and stupid, though - I just loved the SONG and didn't read much into it. That gorgeous National Steel guitar (I know something about it, but I can't remember what, at this point - I think it has something to do with Mike Nesmith, late of The Monkees.)
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Yeah I think this was the second CD I ever listened to (After Digital Domains, some CD that was just a mix of different cool sounds to show off the purity of CD sound). My brother had blown a huge amount on a giant Pioneer stereo system with speakers as big as the monolith in 2001 a Space Odyssey, and a few of us sat (basically between the two speakers) in his dorm room and listened to this CD. It might be a little dated now but at the time it was just the best damn CD in the world, from lyrics to composition to production. Of course I didn't know any of that then, I just new it was cool.
I still have the original, digitally-mastered CD of "Brothers in Arms" on my 'top shelf' plus the digital edition. It is right there alongside "Love Over Gold."
Carl wrote:
Time to move on.
Hate to possibly derail the political rants, but this was one of the first three CDs I got in 1984, when CDs were pretty new, and it's still one of my favorites. (The others were Barbra Streisand, The Broadway Album, and The Sheffield Track/Drum Record.)
Time to move on.
Not their best song, not their best album... but wooaaahhh... still strong!
What a great band they were!
What a great band they were!
canoeing wrote:
Twice.
kickass tune
Twice.
kickass tune
at the end of this song I always want to hear "can't get no sleeves for my records"
coolpeople_rule wrote:
Easy Fast Eddie...what you mean to say is, "Knopf it off already!"
Amen!
Easy Fast Eddie...what you mean to say is, "Knopf it off already!"
Amen!
fast_eddie wrote:
You can't even see "enough with" from here.
Enough with the Mark Knopfler
You can't even see "enough with" from here.
fast_eddie wrote:
Easy Fast Eddie...what you mean to say is, "Knopf it off already!"
Enough with the Mark Knopfler
Easy Fast Eddie...what you mean to say is, "Knopf it off already!"
Enough with the Mark Knopfler
Last weekend my uncle tried to tell me Money For Nothing was Dire Straits' only good song.
I tired to tell him it's not even their best song! If only I'd had RP at my disposal (no internet up there), I could have just shown him this tidy list of awesome DS songs!
I tired to tell him it's not even their best song! If only I'd had RP at my disposal (no internet up there), I could have just shown him this tidy list of awesome DS songs!
I never really attributed this song to one particular person - I sort of figured it was a metaphor for Satan, or politics in general. I was young and stupid, though - I just loved the SONG and didn't read much into it. That gorgeous National Steel guitar (I know something about it, but I can't remember what, at this point - I think it has something to do with Mike Nesmith, late of The Monkees.)
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Always loved this song, assumed it was about Nixon, anyone know if was about anyone in real life?
BTW solid 9!
BTW solid 9! papaman wrote:
This is neither a long political rant nor does it have the obligatory picture of one 'Dick Cheney'. I'm afraid your comment may fail to rise above the political clatter. I will help you out with some incendiary words...long live Dick Cheney!
Hmmmmm, i believe you quoted the wrong post....
This is neither a long political rant nor does it have the obligatory picture of one 'Dick Cheney'. I'm afraid your comment may fail to rise above the political clatter. I will help you out with some incendiary words...long live Dick Cheney!
Hmmmmm, i believe you quoted the wrong post....
Bravo.... a few said this was their first CD.. mine was Sting- Dream of the Blue Turtles... incase anyone was wondering :)
Hate to possibly derail the political rants, but this was one of the first three CDs I got in 1984, when CDs were pretty new, and it's still one of my favorites. (The others were Barbra Streisand, The Broadway Album, and The Sheffield Track/Drum Record.)
Sjaaks wrote:
This is neither a long political rant nor does it have the obligatory picture of one 'Dick Cheney'. I'm afraid your comment may fail to rise above the political clatter. I will help you out with some incendiary words...long live Dick Cheney!
A great example of a time that Mark Knopfler was completely fed up with drums.... This song doesn't need drums and seems just as powerful... What a guy!
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This is neither a long political rant nor does it have the obligatory picture of one 'Dick Cheney'. I'm afraid your comment may fail to rise above the political clatter. I will help you out with some incendiary words...long live Dick Cheney!
A great example of a time that Mark Knopfler was completely fed up with drums.... This song doesn't need drums and seems just as powerful... What a guy!
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daigoro wrote:
God, how do some people find the time to write long political rants on a radio station discussion board? Moreoever, rants only applicable and indeed understandable by folk in one country. Rant away by all means, but keep it a bit briefer next time, please. And those who reply, please don't keep quoting the goddamn picture!
Oh, and the song refers to war criminals all over, not just one or two individuals in that class. Please try to see the wood rather than the trees. And do enjoy the sounds, which are, as ever with Mark Knopfler, classily smooth.
God, how do some of you people even function?
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
God, how do some people find the time to write long political rants on a radio station discussion board? Moreoever, rants only applicable and indeed understandable by folk in one country. Rant away by all means, but keep it a bit briefer next time, please. And those who reply, please don't keep quoting the goddamn picture!
Oh, and the song refers to war criminals all over, not just one or two individuals in that class. Please try to see the wood rather than the trees. And do enjoy the sounds, which are, as ever with Mark Knopfler, classily smooth.
On Cheney -
Most self-help books, religions and life mentors deliver the same basic message:
1. Don't be a Dick.
2. If you are a Dick, Stop!
3. If you can't stop, then be the best Dick you can be.
Most self-help books, religions and life mentors deliver the same basic message:
1. Don't be a Dick.
2. If you are a Dick, Stop!
3. If you can't stop, then be the best Dick you can be.
PeteyGreens wrote:
Find another place to voice your ignorant comments, Diagoro. In fact, find another radio station. I'm sure Rush needs another moron as a listener.
daigoro wrote:
God, how do some of you people even function?
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
The man in the picture is neither 'too big', 'too strong', nor is he the antihero that is sung of in this tune... if anything:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
This reminds me of someone:
Oh Last Chance or Bone....Did you HAVE to put that monster's face on this sacred site???
Is there a way to remove these gigantic pictures of the massive asshole of history and his sick perverted "smile"?
Is there a way to remove these gigantic pictures of the massive asshole of history and his sick perverted "smile"?
This is such a fantastic song.
One of the greatest albums of all time!
One of the greatest albums of all time!
'smirking turd' LOL With all due respect to the office. Truly the perfect description of our former vice president.
I thought this comment area was to talk about music. . .
daigoro wrote:
daigoro wrote:
God, how do some of you people even function?
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
The man in the picture is neither 'too big', 'too strong', nor is he the antihero that is sung of in this tune... if anything:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
This reminds me of someone:
Love this song.
God, how do some of you people even function?
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
The man in the picture is neither 'too big', 'too strong', nor is he the antihero that is sung of in this tune... if anything:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
This reminds me of someone:
Anyone know which war criminal yer man's going on about in this song, or is about war criminals/tyrants/dictators/warlords in general?
papaman wrote:
My God! The lyrics do fit.
This reminds me of someone:
My God! The lyrics do fit.
I'm just and ageing drummer boy
And in the wars I used to play
And I've called the tune
To many a torture session
Now they say I am a war criminal
And I'm fading away
Father please her my confession
I have legalised robbery
Called it a belief
I have run with the money
And hid like a theif
I have re-written history
With my armies and my crooks
Invented memories
I did burn all the books
The man in the picture is neither 'too big', 'too strong', nor is he the antihero that is sung of in this tune... if anything:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
This reminds me of someone:
Interesting how the artists define the characters and the dictators emerge to step into them.
This reminds me of someone:
cmrump wrote:
Yes.
do a Wiki on first CD ever!? 
Such as? Considering the explosion of CD players here in US circa 1986 or so, this CD had perfect timing and wonderful acoustics to exploit the new technology. Its pretty common for people to say this was their first CD (me included on a post for another song on this album & I believe Bill as well). I have never seen a post of the same regarding any other album. Seems to be a unique honor.
Yes.
do a Wiki on first CD ever!? This was the first CD I ever bought shortly after CD's became available.
black321 wrote:
totally agree
Great one to crank and push your tweeters to the limit.
totally agree