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I once wrote in here years back that Ludovico Einaudi music was good for watching it snow during a pensive moment on a Sunday afternoon. Well by golly here it is, Andare is playing on RP and I'm lost in thought while gazing out my window watching it snow this Sunday afternoon!
Poignant.
I was trying to figure out why I don't like this, given that I'm a classically trained pianist. On a classical music forum to which I subscribe, someone wrote the following which sums it up for me:
I dislike Einaudi's music for its lack of substance: the endless repetition of minimalism but without its subtle changes to create interest; wallpaper music. He's welcome to make money from it. As an excoriating review of one of his Barbican performances once put it, "The audience appear to be mesmerised – but there’s nothing to listen to".
The reviewer in the Telegraph of the same event said "It was so lovely, languorous and mesmeric, it is a miracle that anyone managed to stay awake" while the review in the Independent was simply headed "A long road to nowhere".
It's a product for people who like to hear music, but not to listen to it.
Hit the "skip button" and spare us from your drivel!!
It's interesting that you mention a Playlist for your funeral. I've been compiling one for about 7 years. Of course, I'm going to live to 100, and with the good Lord's curse, I will. Mine runs the gambit from Mark Knopfler to Frank Zappa to Oingo Boingo. If you think you'll go before me, invite me to your funeral. If I think I'll go before you ill invite you to mine. I hope you like Guiness and IPA.
Ooo, Dead Man's Party, I love it
I dislike Einaudi's music for its lack of substance: the endless repetition of minimalism but without its subtle changes to create interest; wallpaper music. He's welcome to make money from it. As an excoriating review of one of his Barbican performances once put it, "The audience appear to be mesmerised – but there’s nothing to listen to".
The reviewer in the Telegraph of the same event said "It was so lovely, languorous and mesmeric, it is a miracle that anyone managed to stay awake" while the review in the Independent was simply headed "A long road to nowhere".
It's a product for people who like to hear music, but not to listen to it.
That's a rather pretentious statement. The foundations of music were built upon simplicity: three chords. I tire of those here who seem to think that technical ability is the same as having a creative vision. There is no such connection. A good carpenter can build a house. Whether or not he can create a work of art is a completely different matter.
The song is beautiful. I have not a care in the world how simplistic it may or may not be.
Or whether a carpenter has the creativity of an architect. Your point is well taken, thanks!
Unlike some of the screaming meemies whining about this song and this artist, I have to say that I just love his music. Maybe I'm able to open my mind to new types of music, embrace them, find the good in them, and appreciate the fact that I'm actually allowed to listen to them without getting shot.
Life is not handed to one on a silver platter. Every song, every breath, every sunrise is not guaranteed. I embrace every song, every breath, every sunrise, because I don't know what tomorrow will bring.
Poignant.
Pseudonym?
Apparently the woman in blue is Fast and Easy.
That graphic is one of the funniest things I've ever seen!
Apparently the woman in blue is Fast and Easy.
Just <yawn> Yanni. Just a chord-progression warm up. Incantations that don't change. I guess it's ok if we've just segued from Shoot To Thrill. But otherwise minimalist minimalism of the most minimally interesting kind. Credits rolling at the end of a maudlin movie drama. (But at least it's not the Cowboy Junkies...). "Heard It Through The Grapevine" gets about the same average rating; lol, remarkable.
Strange that everyone doesn't rate according to your taste. One might think it's just you, if that were actually possible.
Andare is to me 9-OUTSTANDING
fredriley wrote:
Er, yes,it does require further comment, as you've plainly (deliberately?) misinterpreted the statement. Einaudi, Satie, Debussy and Glass fall squarely into the category of 'minimalist'. Einaudi may or may not be in their league in terms of quality, but he is in the same category in terms of output. Particularly Satie and Glass - indeed, many commenters on Einaudi numbers on RP frequently liken him to Philip Glass, and to my simple uneducated untrained and plainly unsophisticated ears, he and Satie are musical brothers.
Non ci sono gerachie nell'arte, perchè l'arte è per tutti, non solo i snob.
What is it about the sheer hatred Einaudi generates on this board? How can such simple music be so greatly offensive to RP listeners such that the red mist descends and bile pours from keyboards? Surely at worst it's 'elevator music'? I honestly want to know: what is it about Einaudi that gets on your tits so much?
I liked this guy when I first heard him on RP, but now I find him treacly and melodramatic
like Yanni or John Tesh
Denny108 wrote:
very well stated.
As is often the case, those who "hate" do only hate, because secretly their guilty conscience is biting them.
So I presume most "Haters" here secretely love this music......
I think a lot of people just find Ludovico's music to be too sprightly and and zippy.
That graphic is one of the funniest things I've ever seen!
Okay, I take it back: I AM enough of a snob to say that this is not just a matter of taste; Einaudi is NOT in the same league as any of the fine composers some listeners have compared him to here, all of whom pushed the musical envelope in one way (or at one time) or another. Einaudi does not. The only thing he pushes is my last nerve.
I think a lot of people just find Ludovico's music to be too sprightly and and zippy.
fredriley wrote:
Er, yes,it does require further comment, as you've plainly (deliberately?) misinterpreted the statement. Einaudi, Satie, Debussy and Glass fall squarely into the category of 'minimalist'. Einaudi may or may not be in their league in terms of quality, but he is in the same category in terms of output. Particularly Satie and Glass - indeed, many commenters on Einaudi numbers on RP frequently liken him to Philip Glass, and to my simple uneducated untrained and plainly unsophisticated ears, he and Satie are musical brothers.
Non ci sono gerachie nell'arte, perchè l'arte è per tutti, non solo i snob.
What is it about the sheer hatred Einaudi generates on this board? How can such simple music be so greatly offensive to RP listeners such that the red mist descends and bile pours from keyboards? Surely at worst it's 'elevator music'? I honestly want to know: what is it about Einaudi that gets on your tits so much?
Did you just learn that word and feel the need to use it even though it shouldn't really fit in this context?
Did you just learn that word and feel the need to use it even though it shouldn't really fit in this context?
If he's saying that it puts him to sleep, then it seems to fit the context pretty well. If you're saying that it doesn't do so for you, then I agree.
Get the scientists working on the tube technology immediately.
Did you just learn that word and feel the need to use it even though it shouldn't really fit in this context?
That's been done: Tenacious D. Don't forget the bendy thing.
What is it about the sheer hatred Einaudi generates on this board? How can such simple music be so greatly offensive to RP listeners such that the red mist descends and bile pours from keyboards? Surely at worst it's 'elevator music'? I honestly want to know: what is it about Einaudi that gets on your tits so much?
I like the guy, but he's definitely not "rock and roll" -- even when the genre is stretched as far as Bill can pull. That's the only possibility I can imagine: it's not rock and roll, so many listeners have little (or no) patience with it. "Get that shite off my speakers and put on some Clash, whydontcha!"
(And for the record, the first time I heard Mr. Einaudi -- here on RP -- I thought, "Somebody's re-done a Debussy piece?")
fredriley wrote:
It's a question of taste, and plainly Einaudi's not to yours, which is fair enough. He is in the same category as Satie and Debussy, and of course Philip Glass. Personalmente, penso che Einaudi sia i coglioni del cane (come dicono qua) :o)
Er, yes,it does require further comment, as you've plainly (deliberately?) misinterpreted the statement. Einaudi, Satie, Debussy and Glass fall squarely into the category of 'minimalist'. Einaudi may or may not be in their league in terms of quality, but he is in the same category in terms of output. Particularly Satie and Glass - indeed, many commenters on Einaudi numbers on RP frequently liken him to Philip Glass, and to my simple uneducated untrained and plainly unsophisticated ears, he and Satie are musical brothers.
Non ci sono gerachie nell'arte, perchè l'arte è per tutti, non solo i snob.
What is it about the sheer hatred Einaudi generates on this board? How can such simple music be so greatly offensive to RP listeners such that the red mist descends and bile pours from keyboards? Surely at worst it's 'elevator music'? I honestly want to know: what is it about Einaudi that gets on your tits so much?
"physically demanding stunts" Should we ring up Bach, Beethoven, Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Richards, Jonny Greenwood, etc. and tell them that they've been sacked for playing physically demanding stunts? Maybe we should pass a No Physically Demanding Stunts in Music law for you.
I'm guessing you have a creeping case of acquired amusia combined with the stubbornness of a donkey. If you've had anything lasting or insightful to say about music appreciation or theory, I've not read it. You just toss out sweeping and empty generalizations like a drunk at the corner of the bar.
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A lot of music is written for performers to perform physically demanding stunts. This music is usually horrible and should generally not have been composed in the first place. There is an entire branch of music appreciation devoted to the worship of these performers. To me, that whole thing is simply uninteresting and unworthy of further comment.
So far as “complexity” in music goes. It is not an important aspect. Some music has a lot of variation, and it is good. Other music has very little variation, and is just as good. I can name great works in both regards. It’s a boring topic.
"physically demanding stunts" Should we ring up Bach, Beethoven, Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Richards, Jonny Greenwood, etc. and tell them that they've been sacked for playing physically demanding stunts? Maybe we should pass a No Physically Demanding Stunts in Music law for you.
I'm guessing you have a creeping case of acquired amusia combined with the stubbornness of a donkey. If you've had anything lasting or insightful to say about music appreciation or theory, I've not read it. You just toss out sweeping and empty generalizations like a drunk at the corner of the bar.
That is one of the most ignorant comments I have read on Radio Paradise.
That's a rather pretentious statement. The foundations of music were built upon simplicity: three chords. I tire of those here who seem to think that technical ability is the same as having a creative vision. There is no such connection. A good carpenter can build a house. Whether or not he can create a work of art is a completely different matter.
The song is beautiful. I have not a care in the world how simplistic it may or may not be.
A lot of music is written for performers to perform physically demanding stunts. This music is usually horrible and should generally not have been composed in the first place. There is an entire branch of music appreciation devoted to the worship of these performers. To me, that whole thing is simply uninteresting and unworthy of further comment.
So far as “complexity” in music goes. It is not an important aspect. Some music has a lot of variation, and it is good. Other music has very little variation, and is just as good. I can name great works in both regards. It’s a boring topic.
Agree 100% with that!
Agreed! Thank you.
I completely agree. This is nice, but truly simplistic music.
That's a rather pretentious statement. The foundations of music were built upon simplicity: three chords. I tire of those here who seem to think that technical ability is the same as having a creative vision. There is no such connection. A good carpenter can build a house. Whether or not he can create a work of art is a completely different matter.
The song is beautiful. I have not a care in the world how simplistic it may or may not be.
The most interesting man in my world
The messages was something like "Thanks to the Mom's" and only flashed products pix up at the end before they put the company name up.
I completely agree. This is nice, but truly simplistic music.
fredriley wrote:
It's a question of taste, and plainly Einaudi's not to yours, which is fair enough. He is in the same category as Satie and Debussy, and of course Philip Glass. Personalmente, penso che Einaudi sia i coglioni del cane (come dicono qua) :o)
It's a question of taste, and plainly Einaudi's not to yours, which is fair enough. He is in the same category as Satie and Debussy, and of course Philip Glass. Personalmente, penso che Einaudi sia i coglioni del cane (come dicono qua) :o)
This is balm to the ears after Tom Wait's rasping cheesegrater of a voice.
Interesting, your saying that. I'd initially rated this a 9 and have downgraded it over time to now a 7. In other words, its appeal after the initial "wow" for me hasn't held. Satie & especially Debussy I can hear a thousand times and never tire.
I think the point is to create a mood - which it does a good job of. Could this be part of a big-budget movie soundtrack? Yes - and as the backing for a very emotionally charged part of the film.
The boundary between good music and bad music is not defined by complexity.
Great comment!
Time for a $20 donation.
I'll see your $20 and counter with $25.
I was looking through the window, it's a dark and gray day today. I saw a very lonely snowflake make his way past the trees to the ground and then this song started, i have to admit that was perfect.........
3 —> 8
Nice! :-)
I think the point is to create a mood - which it does a good job of. Could this be part of a big-budget movie soundtrack? Yes - and as the backing for a very emotionally charged part of the film.
The boundary between good music and bad music is not defined by complexity.
Philip Glass.....
Glenn Gould....
Subtle does not mean boring. Did you hear that cello?
emmidad wrote:
I will see him in about two weeks, when he comes to Heidelberg in Germany. I can't wait!
I was looking through the window, it's a dark and gray day today. I saw a very lonely snowflake make his way past the trees to the ground and then this song started, i have to admit that was perfect.........
3 —> 8
Thank you for this image, Sjaaks - very poignant and crystal-clear. And perfect for this song.
FlatCat wrote:
Glad everyone enjoys it. Flame shields up...
Time for a $20 donation.
I was really enjoying this track but felt like i knew it so actually came on the page to see if there was any info on that. Very much a movie soundtrack piece...
Same here! I originally thought it was the soundtrack from "requiem for a dream"
wow, you REALLY don't understand piano playing, huh?
Drat!!!! Why aren't there any minus numbers......or at least a zero?
Philistine!
Drat!!!! Why aren't there any minus numbers......or at least a zero?
I was really enjoying this track but felt like i knew it so actually came on the page to see if there was any info on that. Very much a movie soundtrack piece...
I was looking through the window, it's a dark and gray day today. I saw a very lonely snowflake make his way past the trees to the ground and then this song started, i have to admit that was perfect.........
3 —> 8
Life is not handed to one on a silver platter. Every song, every breath, every sunrise is not guaranteed. I embrace every song, every breath, every sunrise, because I don't know what tomorrow will bring.
Cynaera, I don't really rate this song, but I agree completely with your message. I love hearing all of this different music!
Life is not handed to one on a silver platter. Every song, every breath, every sunrise is not guaranteed. I embrace every song, every breath, every sunrise, because I don't know what tomorrow will bring.
I must say, I love this! I had to stop what I was doing in order sit down to listen and feel it. Glad I did! 9 or 10?
I agree...
the music major in the office had this to offer: "At least Yanni can throw in a minor chord every now and then."
whatever, I think the music major has a point in this case
I disagree...
the music major in the office had this to offer: "At least Yanni can throw in a minor chord every now and then." bronorb wrote:
The problem with music majors is that they analyze music too much and they've forgotten how to enjoy it.
See if you can find a music major that finished their degree and is actually making original music that people want to hear.
whatever, I think the music major has a point in this case
Sta foto ce le ha tutte le sfighe
la messa a fuoco a caso
l'immagine funestata dai pixel colorati maledetti degli elementi bruciati del sensore
l'angolo di ripresa che non fa vedere le mani
tutto buio, il pianoforte sghembo che non prende neanche mezzo riflesso...
'na tragedia
io, per essere, lo so che è Ludovico Einaudi e che sta suonando.
purtroppo questo lo so solo io
Sei italiano/a, Calypsus?
Ludovico Einaudi by ~FerretK
Sta foto ce le ha tutte le sfighe
la messa a fuoco a caso
l'immagine funestata dai pixel colorati maledetti degli elementi bruciati del sensore
l'angolo di ripresa che non fa vedere le mani
tutto buio, il pianoforte sghembo che non prende neanche mezzo riflesso...
'na tragedia
io, per essere, lo so che è Ludovico Einaudi e che sta suonando.
purtroppo questo lo so solo io.
NOOOO! NOT ON RP!!!
97% of RP listeners disagree w/ you
HAAAA...!!!
NOOOO! NOT ON RP!!!
I'm feelin' ya dawg, so many joys in life and just as many melancholy days as well. This song has such of a beautiful, bittersweet feel to it.
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The problem with music majors is that they analyze music too much and they've forgotten how to enjoy it.
See if you can find a music major that finished their degree and is actually making original music that people want to hear.
The music major has a good ear and makes a good point. I must add that if the minor is not needed then stay with the major. Next time you see the music major ask him what key are most slot machines bells tuned to.
Hit the "skip button" and spare us from your drivel!!