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Buena Vista Social Club — De Camino a La Vereda
Album: Buena Vista Social Club
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Released: 1997
Length: 4:59
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¡Oígame compay! No deje el camino por
coger la vereda.
Usted por enamorado
Tan viejo y con poco brillo
Usted por enamorado
Tan viejo y con poco brillo
El pollo que tiene al lado
Le ha hecho perder el trillo
¡Oígame compay! No deje el camino por
coger la vereda.
Ay, pero como soy tan sencillo
Pongo en claro esta trovada
Yo como soy tan sencillo
Pongo en claro esta trovada
Compay, yo no dejo el trillo
Para meterme en cañada.
¡Oígame compay! No deje el camino por
coger la vereda.
Ay, pero estabamo' comentando
Por qué ha abandonado a Andrea
Estabamo' comentado
Por qué ha abandonado a Andrea
Compadre uste' 'ta cambiando
De camino por vereda.
¡Oígame compay! No deje el camino por
coger la vereda.
Pero mire compadrito, uste' ha dejao' a la
pobre Geraldina para meterse con Dorotea.
No hables de tu marido mujer. Mujer de
malos sentimientos,
Todo se te ha vuelto un cuento
Porque no ha llegado la hora fatal.
¡Oígame compay! No deje el camino por
coger la vereda.
Ay ay ay ay, canta y no llore' Eliade'
Porque cantando se alegran cielito mío
los corazones.
No hables de tu marido mujer.
Mujer de malos sentimientos,
Todo se te ha vuelto un cuento
Porque no ha llegado la hora fatal.
Ay, húndale, húndale, húndale al mayoral.
Pero este señor está en el paso
Y no me deja pasar.
A la man... a la man... a la mancunchévere,
camina como chévere ha matao su
madre, mamá.
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When this was released, I would dance with my infant daughter daughter and she exuded smiles and joy to the music.  It's an imperiable memory. This song gives me such happiness! 
Posted 7 months ago by nelsonha    [ Reply ]
 islander wrote:
Ibrahim Ferrer has a voice as smooth as chocolate. It's a compelling argument for spending the next 40 years in bars smoking cigars and sipping rum. 


Indeed.
Posted 10 months ago by moni58    [ Reply ]
 unclehud wrote:
 ... open air cafe AS several glasses are consumed ....  and why can't I go to Cuba any longer?  Hunh?  Mr White House Guy?  Why not?

I support Cuba as the 51st state.
Posted 1 year ago by unclehud    [ Reply ]
 unclehud wrote:
 
... open air cafe AS several glasses are consumed ....  and why can't I go to Cuba any longer?  Hunh?  Mr White House Guy?  Why not?



We've been trying to teach Cuba. Cuba is a stubborn student, resisting our blockades for 64 years. Fidel and Raul are gone. What's the problem?
Posted 1 year ago by itsme_bygolly    [ Reply ]
LOVE that the Wiki panel includes the words homonymous and eponymous.
Posted 1 year ago by unclehud    [ Reply ]
 Grammarcop wrote:

We be dancin' in the kitchen!




Chair dancing for me!   
Posted 1 year ago by joejennings    [ Reply ]
 socalhol wrote:

las necesidades de la campana mas vaca



Correct translation:
Necesitamos más cencerro
cencerro=cowbell
Posted 2 years ago by 1100R    [ Reply ]
Just fantastic.  from ya Miami boyee 😎
Posted 2 years ago by jelgator    [ Reply ]
 pmikep wrote:

One of the best concerts I've ever been to. Must have been around 2000 when they came through Seattle. Rubin Gonzalez needed help getting to the piano, but when he started playing it was like he was twenty years old. Man could he play. Omara was there too with a large brass section. The whole crowd was dancing out of their seats the whole concert.



Great show! 
Posted 2 years ago by einsteinstoe    [ Reply ]
"Mr. Presidente, I believe some of your people may be calling for an election next year."
Posted 2 years ago by timmus    [ Reply ]
We be dancin' in the kitchen!
Posted 3 years ago by Grammarcop    [ Reply ]
 mgtom wrote:
No idea what the Cubans are signing about, but they're having fun, and I'm having fun listening.  


The song is basically a metaphor for a guy cheating on his wife. 
They keep repeating:
Hey brother don't leave the main road (wife) and take the shortcut (lover).
Posted 3 years ago by paloeguevo    [ Reply ]
 Randy1cleo wrote:

Such an annoying song!! Lived in Miami for 30 yrs, Loved the cuban people, food, but not the music. 



This World/Eclectic channel is not for you. You should be listening to the Top 40 HipHop crackhead music! 
Posted 3 years ago by kquinn03    [ Reply ]
 unclehud wrote:
 
... open air cafe AS several glasses are consumed ....  and why can't I go to Cuba any longer?  Hunh?  Mr White House Guy?  Why not?


Exactly! They put these sanctions on and it just hurts the people, doesn't do anything to the rich. Besides, I don't care if they have a different form of government. The rich want one world order, screw them!! The US comes in third as the most corrupt country in the world year after year, so they should put sanctions on themselves and let us go to Cuba and dance. 
Posted 3 years ago by kquinn03    [ Reply ]
this rocks, baby
Posted 3 years ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
Such an annoying song!! Lived in Miami for 30 yrs, Loved the cuban people, food, but not the music. 
Posted 3 years ago by Randy1cleo    [ Reply ]
Plays (last 30 days):
World/Etc Mix - 15

Ummm... something different from BVSC?
Posted 3 years ago by Zep    [ Reply ]
Great song, but WAY overplayed on the eclectic channel. Lots more BVSC out there!

Plays (last 30 days):
Main Mix - 3
World/Etc Mix - 17
Posted 3 years ago by Zep    [ Reply ]
This album is fantastic!
Posted 4 years ago by khardog145    [ Reply ]
Me encanta está canción tan buena😎
Posted 4 years ago by Easyrider    [ Reply ]
 TerrorGovernor wrote:
Impeach Donald Trump already, we are counting on you
 
TerrorGovernor?  Must be from NY.
Posted 4 years ago by sqqqrly    [ Reply ]
No idea what the Cubans are signing about, but they're having fun, and I'm having fun listening.  
Posted 4 years ago by mgtom    [ Reply ]
 HazzeSwede wrote:
Best sounding cowbell ever !{#Smile}
 
Agreed    
Posted 4 years ago by the_jake    [ Reply ]
 tglennblakney wrote:
Cuban music. Muy Bueno!
 
Win Wenders’ film was so uplifting and the music is wonderful
Posted 4 years ago by cbhutchinson50    [ Reply ]
 islander wrote:
Ibrahim Ferrer has a voice as smooth as chocolate. It's a compelling argument for spending the next 40 years in bars smoking cigars and sipping rum. 
 

Posted 4 years ago by cbhutchinson50    [ Reply ]
Cuban music. Muy Bueno!
Posted 4 years ago by tglennblakney    [ Reply ]
Great Music! ...Thanks to the Yapping Yam, we can't go to see them live there!
Posted 4 years ago by eileenomurphy    [ Reply ]
what about something from Bonobo
Posted 5 years ago by cristiangumo    [ Reply ]
The more I hear this, the more I like it.
Posted 5 years ago by nomnol    [ Reply ]
 TerrorGovernor wrote:
Impeach Donald Trump already, we are counting on you
 
Two words: Mike Pence. Think before you dump.
Posted 5 years ago by WonderLizard    [ Reply ]
One of the best concerts I've ever been to. Must have been around 2000 when they came through Seattle. Rubin Gonzalez needed help getting to the piano, but when he started playing it was like he was twenty years old. Man could he play. Omara was there too with a large brass section. The whole crowd was dancing out of their seats the whole concert.
Posted 5 years ago by pmikep    [ Reply ]
Chair Dancing!!! :-)
Posted 5 years ago by Egctheow    [ Reply ]
Impeach Donald Trump already, we are counting on you
Posted 6 years ago by TerrorGovernor    [ Reply ]
 westslope wrote:
I reckon this song would sound much better if played live in an open air café after several glasses were consumed.  

... open air cafe AS several glasses are consumed ....  and why can't I go to Cuba any longer?  Hunh?  Mr White House Guy?  Why not?
Posted 6 years ago by unclehud    [ Reply ]
Joyous!!
Posted 6 years ago by foradancer    [ Reply ]
 GTT wrote:
Ordinarily, I would enjoy this, but I am doing something very repetitive at work right now, and this song is so repetitive it is driving me crazy.

 
LOL!
 
I reckon this song would sound much better if played live in an open air café after several glasses were consumed.  
Posted 6 years ago by westslope    [ Reply ]
on this list of "best restaurant music":
https://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/the-best-restaurant-music-ever-made/
 
Posted 7 years ago by alan278    [ Reply ]
Ras le bol des musiques latinos, toujours répétitives ad nauseam.
Posted 7 years ago by Thirdrose    [ Reply ]
Ordinarily, I would enjoy this, but I am doing something very repetitive at work right now, and this song is so repetitive it is driving me crazy.
Posted 7 years ago by GTT    [ Reply ]
Bill, how about something from Cooder's other roots albums  I Flathead or Chavez Ravine 
Posted 7 years ago by jbuhl    [ Reply ]
this is real nice
Posted 8 years ago by Skydog    [ Reply ]


                                                    A Nod's as Good as a Wink...  .
                                                     Why we came here honey.?
                                                      We'd be in some twin town
Posted 8 years ago by twoplain2sea    [ Reply ]
Godlike music   (great movie too)
Posted 9 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
Ibrahim Ferrer has a voice as smooth as chocolate. It's a compelling argument for spending the next 40 years in bars smoking cigars and sipping rum. 
Posted 9 years ago by islander    [ Reply ]

 
 
Good thing I have a standing cube at work!  
Posted 9 years ago by Alexandra    [ Reply ]
 unclehud wrote:

I've heard the same from a lot of my international friends that have visited Cuba: a lovely place stuck in a time warp, full of friendly, generous people and beautiful scenery.

Makes me wonder if that's because they've been spared the American influence of "money-over-all-things". 

 
Now that the Obama Administration is moving to normalize relations after 50 years, I have only one thing to say: 

See Cuba now before we ruin it.  
Posted 9 years ago by Grammarcop    [ Reply ]
 stunix wrote:
Its August 2011 and I'm back in the Hotel National in Havana, the evening lightning has passed and there is a nice cooling breeze coming from the sea.  My 3rd Cuba Libre is going down and so are the cigars.   Scuba diving again in the morning, then out to Old Havana for some cruzing in a Lada (or a 3 wheeler).  you can keep your yank tanks, the ladas have the fun.   Beautiful country and people.
 
I've heard the same from a lot of my international friends that have visited Cuba: a lovely place stuck in a time warp, full of friendly, generous people and beautiful scenery.

Makes me wonder if that's because they've been spared the American influence of "money-over-all-things". 
Posted 10 years ago by unclehud    [ Reply ]
 Ulises wrote:
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.

MARK TWAIN

 
indeed!!
Posted 10 years ago by oldfart48    [ Reply ]
Outstanding - wonderful memories of  hearing  BVSC live at the RAH London, 2013  {#Hearteyes}  {#Hearteyes}
Posted 10 years ago by Jannne    [ Reply ]
I could not have stated it better. Exactly right. I never get tired of listening to this album.

cc_rider wrote:
Just wonderful. What an incredible bunch of musicians. Ry Cooder did the world a great service: if not for his efforts those artists almost certainly wouldn't be remembered. But now they will live forever.

I can't forget the part of the movie where they finally coaxed Ruben Gonzalez to play again. He had given up, you know? But they were able to bring him out and share his magic with the world again.

Paz, Caballeros.

 


Posted 11 years ago by SkiIllinois    [ Reply ]
Heard this for the first time on my last night in Havana. Fond memories of a great evening. 
Posted 11 years ago by Grammarcop    [ Reply ]
I wish everyone would just shut the fuck up in this song. 
Posted 11 years ago by nightdrive    [ Reply ]
So great!
Posted 11 years ago by d-don    [ Reply ]
 coccyx wrote:
Geez this is annoying
 


Agreed
Posted 12 years ago by planet3one9    [ Reply ]
Its August 2011 and I'm back in the Hotel National in Havana, the evening lightning has passed and there is a nice cooling breeze coming from the sea.  My 3rd Cuba Libre is going down and so are the cigars.   Scuba diving again in the morning, then out to Old Havana for some cruzing in a Lada (or a 3 wheeler).  you can keep your yank tanks, the ladas have the fun.   Beautiful country and people.
Posted 12 years ago by stunix    [ Reply ]
Don't take the troll bait. 
 
toterola wrote:
Now that is one goddamn well-informed comment right there. {#Beat}

How do these people end up listening to RP? {#Stupid}
 

Posted 12 years ago by MojoJojo    [ Reply ]
 Netto wrote:
I hate Vista, do not remind me about it
 





Vista, California? Microsoft Vista? La Vista, Baja California?

Posted 12 years ago by Misterfixit    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 
{#Zip-lip}  You really are an embarrassing dude for humankind.
Posted 12 years ago by tupicetti    [ Reply ]
No mujer? 
Posted 12 years ago by Grammarcop    [ Reply ]

Ay caray! Que sentidos tan buenas de la Cuba. Que pudiera yo hablar otra vez con la viejita Rosa Rivero que me ensenaba Espanol y tambien a bailar y cocer Cristianos y Moros en la Univeridad de Norte Arizona, NAU. Que bailamos todos!


Posted 12 years ago by Kokoloco53    [ Reply ]
Geez this is annoying
Posted 12 years ago by coccyx    [ Reply ]
I hate Vista, do not remind me about it
Posted 12 years ago by Netto    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 
CNN, Fox and the Nice Government Men have made their job pretty well in you
Posted 12 years ago by Euskadita    [ Reply ]
Nice Horns!!
Posted 12 years ago by anotherlistener    [ Reply ]
This entire album is so yummy. Instant mood changer. {#Roflol}
Posted 12 years ago by scraig    [ Reply ]
massive dislike. 
Posted 13 years ago by dkrstic    [ Reply ]
 HazzeSwede wrote:
Best sounding cowbell ever !{#Smile}
 


Jup. Cowbells in Cuba sound a lot better than in Bavaria! ;-)
Posted 13 years ago by eltom    [ Reply ]
It's a true classic.
Posted 13 years ago by eltom    [ Reply ]
What about Perez Prado?  Awesome band leader.  The Latin Benny Goodman!

Posted 13 years ago by sieversfam    [ Reply ]
las necesidades de la campana mas vaca

Posted 13 years ago by socalhol    [ Reply ]
Otomi wrote:
¡Y son cubano!
You gotta laugh, Otomi - every culture has an element of they all look the same to me going on - although I suspect the original "Mexican" comment was a pretty successful troll, and the followups subtle parody. Can't tell you how often I've been mistaken for everything from a Brit to a Canuck overseas, and I'm as Deep South a Southern boy as was ever born!

Posted 13 years ago by Businessgypsy    [ Reply ]
 PA1749 wrote:
What boring world it would be without Corona, Mexican Food, Selma Hyack, and Spanish Guitars!
 
Give me the burritos and Salma, the music will take care of itself. *
 
Wouldn't want to ruin it with that crap beer tho.

*And before you start, no I have no idea what that means.

Posted 14 years ago by ScottFromWyoming    [ Reply ]
 PA1749 wrote:
What boring world it would be without Corona, Mexican Food, Selma Hyack, and Spanish Guitars!
  
¡Y son cubano!
Posted 14 years ago by Otomi    [ Reply ]
What boring world it would be without Corona, Mexican Food, Selma Hyack, and Spanish Guitars!
Posted 14 years ago by PA1749    [ Reply ]

Ry Cooder & Buena Vista Social Club - Y Tu Que Has Hecho, Live (1997)

"Ry Cooder -and Buena Vista Social Club play 'Y Tu Que Has Hecho'. Recorded live on Tuesday May 13th 1997 at BBC Television Centre, London. Features Ibrahim Ferrer and Compay Segundo on vocals, Ruben Gonzalez on piano."
Posted 14 years ago by calypsus_1    [ Reply ]
Best sounding cowbell ever !{#Smile}
Posted 14 years ago by HazzeSwede    [ Reply ]
Just wonderful. What an incredible bunch of musicians. Ry Cooder did the world a great service: if not for his efforts those artists almost certainly wouldn't be remembered. But now they will live forever.

I can't forget the part of the movie where they finally coaxed Ruben Gonzalez to play again. He had given up, you know? But they were able to bring him out and share his magic with the world again.

Paz, Caballeros.
Posted 14 years ago by cc_rider    [ Reply ]
Bet this guy thinks Bob Marley its american just because sings in english, and he maybe dislikes him too.
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 


Posted 14 years ago by marcucho    [ Reply ]
Oigame, Compay
Posted 14 years ago by dasfeuer    [ Reply ]
 YKV wrote:

 Class case of stupidity and ignorance {#Puke}

Yep - I wonder if he's even smart enough to know his mistake :-)
 


Posted 14 years ago by StephenBartlett    [ Reply ]
Sensational......give me Buena Vista Social Club, a cocktail and a beach and I'm a happy woman{#Cowboy}
Posted 14 years ago by MissIncendium    [ Reply ]
{#Bananajam}
Posted 14 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]

Buena Vista Social Club - "Chan Chan" Live in Amsterdam April 1998

Posted 14 years ago by calypsus_1    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 
 Class case of stupidity and ignorance {#Puke}




Posted 15 years ago by YKV    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 
Now that is one goddamn well-informed comment right there. {#Beat}

How do these people end up listening to RP? {#Stupid}


Posted 15 years ago by toterola    [ Reply ]
So much to enjoy within this performance!
Posted 15 years ago by nigelr    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 
What makes this comment and commenter particularly inane is that this is not music of Mexico. A bit farther east on the map.

Posted 15 years ago by drife    [ Reply ]
 TerryS wrote:


Every time I think that  the phrase 'Ugly American' is passe, I am proven wrong. This particular one 107 years old according to her CV.

 


Posted 15 years ago by idavido    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 

Every time I think that  the phrase 'Ugly American' is passe, I am proven wrong. This particular one 107 years old according to her CV.

Posted 15 years ago by TerryS    [ Reply ]

And what exactly should the poor seals DO at the border?
Ignoramus.
 muronacif wrote:

Does illiteracy mean something to you?
 


Posted 15 years ago by Gednabb    [ Reply ]
 ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
 
Does illiteracy mean something to you?
Posted 16 years ago by muronacif    [ Reply ]
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Posted 16 years ago by a_genuine_find    [ Reply ]
I've heard their music before and liked it, but this just sounds like the trio in Chi-Chi's that plays by your table.
Posted 16 years ago by lerxst    [ Reply ]
Oh man, how I long to head back down to Havana and soak up this culture and music again.
Posted 16 years ago by sharkartist    [ Reply ]
Makes me think of summer . . . right now it is 12 degrees F with a 15 degree wind chill, and there is a huge sinkhole and about a ton of ice in the street in front of my building (check out the Chicago Tribune). Buena Vista, take me away!
Posted 16 years ago by robco1    [ Reply ]
I saw Elíades Ochoa, who sang this one, last summer in a gig. Really nice!! I guess he's the last survivor of BVSC (must have been a boy by then...)
Posted 16 years ago by ulibcn    [ Reply ]
MonkeyPod wrote:
Hey this person has a point!
Here you assume the cretin's actually a person. Bad assumption. Ulises wrote:
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. MARK TWAIN
Most excellent BVSC. Per usual.
Posted 16 years ago by Roverfish    [ Reply ]
ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
Hey this person has a point! Bill, how many Americans lost their jobs when you played this song?
Posted 17 years ago by MonkeyPod    [ Reply ]
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. MARK TWAIN
Posted 17 years ago by Ulises    [ Reply ]
MissIncendium wrote:
This music makes me want a Mojito
or 2...
Posted 17 years ago by sukilau    [ Reply ]
Reminds me of when I waited tables at a Rio Bravo Mexican restaurant. Ahhhh....memories.
Posted 17 years ago by esotericderek    [ Reply ]
My entire half of the office is swaying along. I crave chips and salsa.
Posted 17 years ago by kelly652    [ Reply ]
One of the world's perfect albums. Definitely one for my desert island discs.
Posted 17 years ago by DoctorHooey    [ Reply ]
Dynamite wrote:
I don't think I could ever get enough of Buena Vista Social Club.
Amen to that. I was lucky enough to see them live in Seattle some years back. Fabulous show.
Posted 17 years ago by Welly    [ Reply ]
I don't think I could ever get enough of Buena Vista Social Club.
Posted 17 years ago by Dynamite    [ Reply ]
if Cuba is Mexico, why Mexicans don't dance salsa? Azucar!! Viva México campeones!!
Posted 17 years ago by JICAMARCA    [ Reply ]
So lucky that we got to hear them all together. So sad that most of them are dead now.
Posted 17 years ago by Welly    [ Reply ]
Gonna go put it on for a road trip right now.
Posted 17 years ago by sans    [ Reply ]
Love this band, This CD is rate: 11 :P;)
Posted 17 years ago by Candela    [ Reply ]
xkolibuul wrote:
Yo, guapo, this is CUBA. CUBAN MUSIC. Here's a few hints so that you don't sound quite so pendejo the next time you abre la boca. How to tell CUBA from MEXICO Rum, not tequila. Ergo mojitos not margaritas (and actually the Mexicans only serve margaritas to the turistas; tequila is too good to water down). Mambo, not mariachis. Rice and beans, not tortillas and beans. Celia Cruz, not Vicente Fernandez. Cigars, not chiles. Beisbol, not futbol. And of course, Castro, not Cardenas. Yours in combatting rampant ignorance.
Posted 17 years ago by edieraye    [ Reply ]
ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
Aren't you an ignorant ass - get a map AND a brain.
Posted 17 years ago by liser    [ Reply ]
ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
You need a map!!!
Posted 17 years ago by h2o    [ Reply ]
This music makes me want a Mojito
Posted 17 years ago by MissIncendium    [ Reply ]
Yo, guapo, this is CUBA. CUBAN MUSIC. Here's a few hints so that you don't sound quite so pendejo the next time you abre la boca. How to tell CUBA from MEXICO Rum, not tequila. Ergo mojitos not margaritas (and actually the Mexicans only serve margaritas to the turistas; tequila is too good to water down). Mambo, not mariachis. Rice and beans, not tortillas and beans. Celia Cruz, not Vicente Fernandez. Cigars, not chiles. Beisbol, not futbol. And of course, Castro, not Cardenas. Yours in combatting rampant ignorance. ad4tise wrote:
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
Posted 17 years ago by xkolibuul    [ Reply ]
I don't like Mexican Music. In fact, I don't like Mexico. They should seal the borders!
Posted 17 years ago by ad4tise    [ Reply ]
Posted 17 years ago by liser    [ Reply ]
Mmmmmmm...thank you Bill for this luminous bit of Cuban musicality.
Posted 17 years ago by xkolibuul    [ Reply ]
67nj wrote:
LOL Good Job
Posted 17 years ago by crowhog2000    [ Reply ]
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Posted 17 years ago by 67nj    [ Reply ]