Cocteau Twins — Iceblink Luck
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I’m seeming to be lit, alive
I’m happy again, calmer, calm in time
Suppose the daughter of yourself will
Be the same, but you’re a match
You're the match of cherry coal
That will burn this whole madhouse down
You’ll not throw open like the worn-out safe
More like a love that's a bottle of exquisite stuff, best
You yourself and your father
Don’t know so, but in your own ways
You're really both bonesetters
Thank you for mending me, baby
You're the match of cherry coal
That will burn this whole madhouse down
You’ll not throw open like the worn-out safe
You would seem more like being from that same bottle
Of exquisite stuff is
You are the match of cherry coal that will burn
This whole madhouse down on the floor
Open like the worn-out safe
You yourself and your father
Don’t know so, but in your own ways
You’re really both bonesetters
Thank you for mending me, baby
I’m happy again, calmer, calm in time
Suppose the daughter of yourself will
Be the same, but you’re a match
You're the match of cherry coal
That will burn this whole madhouse down
You’ll not throw open like the worn-out safe
More like a love that's a bottle of exquisite stuff, best
You yourself and your father
Don’t know so, but in your own ways
You're really both bonesetters
Thank you for mending me, baby
You're the match of cherry coal
That will burn this whole madhouse down
You’ll not throw open like the worn-out safe
You would seem more like being from that same bottle
Of exquisite stuff is
You are the match of cherry coal that will burn
This whole madhouse down on the floor
Open like the worn-out safe
You yourself and your father
Don’t know so, but in your own ways
You’re really both bonesetters
Thank you for mending me, baby
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jelgator wrote:
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
EVERYTHING is political. Or think about this; Is not talking politics more important that your very freedom?
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
EVERYTHING is political. Or think about this; Is not talking politics more important that your very freedom?
I'm shocked by the low rating: solid 8 here
dipshits out of their minds rating this a 1or2![beat](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_beat.gif)
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A cheezy ABBA copy band? Awful. Read the lyrics- the description "BARFO" was invented for this....
RabbitEars wrote:
glad to know there are some sib fans here
Would like to hear her on RP also (not sure I EVER have)..?
![](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e4/2f/85/e42f85fb03bc6dcd9959844905eb57a7--shower-cap-on-the-beach.jpg)
Would like to hear her on RP also (not sure I EVER have)..?
2Hawks wrote:
I just came here to post the exact same thing!
Anybody else hear, "You're the batch of cherry coke"?
I just came here to post the exact same thing!
jelgator wrote:
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
I like the Cocteau Twins but that's not why I return. I like the music and diverse discussions including political ones from around the world. I find people who police other people's perspectives more tiresome than those who espouse opinions with which I disagree.
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
I like the Cocteau Twins but that's not why I return. I like the music and diverse discussions including political ones from around the world. I find people who police other people's perspectives more tiresome than those who espouse opinions with which I disagree.
Perhaps a good entry point for CT - but like others have shared, there are much better tracks to be savored.
Anybody else hear, "You're the batch of cherry coke"?
Hypnotic, mesmerizing, super-addictive stuff! This has always fired all the right synapses for me. I'm so glad when I hear them on RP.
Only 6.5 average, due to the quite prominent low rating tail. Dunno why.
Bat wrote:
this is the paradox of cocteau twins. you read the lyrics and you say to yourself, "oh yeah, I can hear that". without them i'm lucky to pick out 10% of them correctly.
i find the cadence/tempo/whatever-you-call-it to the lyrics to be really cool.
Love the sound of her voice but I can't understand a single work she's singing.
It's nice that the RP web site has the lyrics but unless I start from the beginning of the song I can't recognize enough to find the place in the lyrics.
this is the paradox of cocteau twins. you read the lyrics and you say to yourself, "oh yeah, I can hear that". without them i'm lucky to pick out 10% of them correctly.
i find the cadence/tempo/whatever-you-call-it to the lyrics to be really cool.
Oh yes.
Love the sound of her voice but I can't understand a single work she's singing.
It's nice that the RP web site has the lyrics but unless I start from the beginning of the song I can't recognize enough to find the place in the lyrics.
It's nice that the RP web site has the lyrics but unless I start from the beginning of the song I can't recognize enough to find the place in the lyrics.
robertomiller wrote:
My first thought.
ABBA cadabra...
My first thought.
jelgator wrote:
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
Agreed. Rome is burning but this is where we go to forget that fact for a while.
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
Agreed. Rome is burning but this is where we go to forget that fact for a while.
newyorkone wrote:
Glad I scrolled down. COCTEAU TWINS are unique, wonderful. I DO hear *touches* of ABBA in this song. And there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that they're perfectly aware of it. I find this salute fascinating, as is most of anything the TWINS produce. Just as a side note, I think ABBA is a fascinating band as well. Apparently, it is better if I state that it's not the SAME fascination![not worthy](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_notworthy.gif)
schopiebettyford wrote:
Wow. I haven't heard this since my junior year of high school. So great to hear today....
Sounds like we're about the same age :) MORE COCTEAU TWINS and NO they absolutely do not sound like ABBA. WTF??
Glad I scrolled down. COCTEAU TWINS are unique, wonderful. I DO hear *touches* of ABBA in this song. And there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that they're perfectly aware of it. I find this salute fascinating, as is most of anything the TWINS produce. Just as a side note, I think ABBA is a fascinating band as well. Apparently, it is better if I state that it's not the SAME fascination
![not worthy](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_notworthy.gif)
thewiseking wrote:
you have good taste.
perfect. bliss.
you have good taste.
Awesome weirdness.
As the time goes on they just get better.
“You’re a macho cherry-cola” wtf
Merci Radio Paradise, le temps passe mais les belles chansons restent ...
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perfect. bliss.
Steely_D wrote:
I just posted the SAME comment! ;) great ear.
Was sure (again) this was Jane Siberry when I heard it out of the corner of my ear.
I just posted the SAME comment! ;) great ear.
grabbed my ears... thought it was Jane Siberry! I forgot all about the Cocteau Twins, thanx for being awesome as always RP! and taking me down memory lane. :)
Nice to be reminded that Scotland was the epi-centre of musical creativity in the 80's. The rest of the world looked on in awe and continued to produce post-punk junk.
TerrorGovernor wrote:
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
Love me some Cocteau Twins, unlike Trump, who just wants Russian hooker twins
Really, don't you have anything else to worry about? This is a thread about a song by the Cocteau twins. The constant political crap is boring at this point.
TerrorGovernor wrote:
Why even soil the comments for this cool song with the mention of his name?
Love me some Cocteau Twins, unlike T****, who just wants Russian hooker twins
Why even soil the comments for this cool song with the mention of his name?
Love me some Cocteau Twins, unlike Trump, who just wants Russian hooker twins
this song always makes me crave a magic cherry cola
Was sure (again) this was Jane Siberry when I heard it out of the corner of my ear.
Odd, yes, but beautiful.
Have always liked ABBA.
It was a mistake to check the lyrics while the song was playing, and they were being sung. Can't be undone, unfortunately. Unlucky me.
Sorry, haters. This band was amazing and seminal to multiple genres of modern music. If if this particular song doesn't sit with you, others ought.
Only 6.5 people? Come on! This started it all!
ABBA cadabra...
likee mucho - "More like a love that's a bottle of exquisite stuff, yes" yes yes yes
tiare wrote:
Normally I am willing to give a song a chance, and as I am usually listening to Radioparadise through a rather elaborate set up that involves my cell phone, I leave it on. But this time I just could not stomach it! She sounds sort of like she is just spinning out of control, out of this universe, and every time I thought, whew, finally -no she's back!
Please please do not play this song again. If not for me, for my waaaay too elborate set up that I must keep in place to tune in to the otherwise outstanding Radio Paradise.
Use the PSD if you don't like the song. You shouldn't feel compelled to go on about your "rather elaborate" or "waaaay too elborate (sic)" setup.
Normally I am willing to give a song a chance, and as I am usually listening to Radioparadise through a rather elaborate set up that involves my cell phone, I leave it on. But this time I just could not stomach it! She sounds sort of like she is just spinning out of control, out of this universe, and every time I thought, whew, finally -no she's back!
Please please do not play this song again. If not for me, for my waaaay too elborate set up that I must keep in place to tune in to the otherwise outstanding Radio Paradise.
Use the PSD if you don't like the song. You shouldn't feel compelled to go on about your "rather elaborate" or "waaaay too elborate (sic)" setup.
Wonderful, wonderful!
Love that box set of their CD singles, as well the their fantastic albums.
Love that box set of their CD singles, as well the their fantastic albums.
Many more good songs on this album past Heaven or Las Vegas. This one is my fav.
Sounds a bit like ABBA to me... ![{#Smile} {#Smile}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/smiley-smile.gif)
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Takes me back to being thrown in a metal dustbin (trashcan) aged 6, the older boys were kicking the bin and shouting insults at me, this is what it sounded like from the bottom of the bin. Still havnt forgiven my brother for the suggestion.
bam23 wrote:
Agree. And ilikeitalot
The apparent syntax and general structure of the words appear to be consistent with the English language, and words seep through that are very English sounding, but who the hell knows? I almost don't want to read the lyrics. The mystery may be part of the appeal. The overall sound created by this band resembles a landscape that may or may not have any correspondence in the outside world. Rather peculiar, I'd say.
Agree. And ilikeitalot
The apparent syntax and general structure of the words appear to be consistent with the English language, and words seep through that are very English sounding, but who the hell knows? I almost don't want to read the lyrics. The mystery may be part of the appeal. The overall sound created by this band resembles a landscape that may or may not have any correspondence in the outside world. Rather peculiar, I'd say.
I realy liked this band but not many did. They have much better songs than this one though...
Mind-blowing album, if you are into this type of sound!! ![{#Music} {#Music}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_music.gif)
![{#Music} {#Music}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_music.gif)
Vibr a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a to
Very happy to hear CTs again, it's been far too long ... and I've never heard this particular song before.
My thoughts exactly. I first thought this was Jane Siberry too.
R7-12 wrote:
R7-12 wrote:
Wow, that female vocalist from the Cocteau Twins sound just like Jane Siberry. You can hear her sing Calling All Angels here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev5byDGADKs
Track over to the 1:00 mark - that's where the vocals begin.
Track over to the 1:00 mark - that's where the vocals begin.
Wow, that female vocalist from the Cocteau Twins sound just like Jane Siberry. You can hear her sing Calling All Angels here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev5byDGADKs
Track over to the 1:00 mark - that's where the vocals begin.
Track over to the 1:00 mark - that's where the vocals begin.
tiare wrote:
You see that as a negative but I see that as amazing. This album is made up of songs that whirl, float, glide, dance, and spin. The lyrics don't make sense; you can either transform the lyrics into words that make sense to you, or you can hear her voice as a musical instrument.
She sounds sort of like she is just spinning out of control, out of this universe
You see that as a negative but I see that as amazing. This album is made up of songs that whirl, float, glide, dance, and spin. The lyrics don't make sense; you can either transform the lyrics into words that make sense to you, or you can hear her voice as a musical instrument.
spaceman wrote:
Yes, please. The whole mix sounds like the song was laminated and then put in a plastic case.
Normally I am willing to give a song a chance, and as I am usually listening to Radioparadise through a rather elaborate set up that involves my cell phone, I leave it on. But this time I just could not stomach it! She sounds sort of like she is just spinning out of control, out of this universe, and every time I thought, whew, finally -no she's back!
Please please do not play this song again. If not for me, for my waaaay too elborate set up that I must keep in place to tune in to the otherwise outstanding Radio Paradise.
Yes, please. The whole mix sounds like the song was laminated and then put in a plastic case.
Normally I am willing to give a song a chance, and as I am usually listening to Radioparadise through a rather elaborate set up that involves my cell phone, I leave it on. But this time I just could not stomach it! She sounds sort of like she is just spinning out of control, out of this universe, and every time I thought, whew, finally -no she's back!
Please please do not play this song again. If not for me, for my waaaay too elborate set up that I must keep in place to tune in to the otherwise outstanding Radio Paradise.
4merdj wrote:![TCT TCT](https://img.listal.com/image/584567/600full-cocteau-twins.jpg)
Guess who the twins are?
I didn't know Jay Leno was in a band!
![TCT TCT](https://img.listal.com/image/584567/600full-cocteau-twins.jpg)
Guess who the twins are?
![{#Cool} {#Cool}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_cool.gif)
I didn't know Jay Leno was in a band!
![TCT TCT](https://img.listal.com/image/584567/600full-cocteau-twins.jpg)
Guess who the twins are?
![{#Cool} {#Cool}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_cool.gif)
love Love LOVE this song!
Imho music Cocteau Twins is very difficult for ABBA, though in ABBA is almost art-rock hits: «Eagle» for example. «Together» of NP, that ABBA, yes ![{#Rolleyes} {#Rolleyes}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Abysmal use of vibrato.
More Cocteau Twins please!
Randomax wrote:
I've never (to my knowledge) heard Cocteau Twins before, but immediately looked over to see which Abba song was playing and wondering why Abba was on RP. That said, the song isn't awful. But then neither was Abba, really.
Why do I think of ABBA?
I've never (to my knowledge) heard Cocteau Twins before, but immediately looked over to see which Abba song was playing and wondering why Abba was on RP. That said, the song isn't awful. But then neither was Abba, really.
Randomax wrote:
Cuz You're really old?
Why do I think of ABBA?
Cuz You're really old?
tomfchzboi wrote:
And I'm also love. Especially «Four-Calendar Cafe» and this album.
I love the Cocteau twins!
And I'm also love. Especially «Four-Calendar Cafe» and this album.
seen live=amazing.
A perfect way to start my Monday! Great band!
I love the Cocteau twins!
decorgirl wrote:
Ditto. I really didn't want to like it, but I just couldn't help myself.
That must be the prettiest bunch of gibberish I have ever heard.
Ditto. I really didn't want to like it, but I just couldn't help myself.
That must be the prettiest bunch of gibberish I have ever heard.
Why do I think of ABBA?
spaceman wrote:
Yes, please. The whole mix sounds like the song was laminated and then put in a plastic case.
Part of it is the double-tracking of the vocals - almost like it's been flanged in the process.
Yes, please. The whole mix sounds like the song was laminated and then put in a plastic case.
Part of it is the double-tracking of the vocals - almost like it's been flanged in the process.
This is hitting the spot, right about now.
nice follow-up to Hooverphonic!
rdo wrote:
LOL
Is she singing about cherry cola? ![{#Think} {#Think}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_think.gif)
![{#Think} {#Think}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_think.gif)
LOL
rdo wrote:
Is she singing about cherry cola? ![{#Think} {#Think}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_think.gif)
![{#Think} {#Think}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_think.gif)
djholechek wrote:
Yes, please. The whole mix sounds like the song was laminated and then put in a plastic case.
*needs to turn the phaser pedal off!
Yes, please. The whole mix sounds like the song was laminated and then put in a plastic case.
*needs to turn the phaser pedal off!
Frater_Kork wrote:
Its built in, her voice is that weird by default.
It is more than one track tho. She's not Ophelia Addams weird. :)
Its built in, her voice is that weird by default.
It is more than one track tho. She's not Ophelia Addams weird. :)
I accept it wholeheartedly this as it is. Elizabeth Fraser has a lovely voice, no matter how she uses it, high or low. Goddess-like greatness. Cocteau Twins beauty!
I wish people would quit comparing artists with other artists, saying Abba-Like and Cure crossed with Abba, or whatever. Can't you all just hear each entity as a whole in itself?! You're not being very original yourself when you make these links, and I think you're depriving yourself, like you're on sensory overload. Relax!
Speaking of links, ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocteau_Twins
I wish people would quit comparing artists with other artists, saying Abba-Like and Cure crossed with Abba, or whatever. Can't you all just hear each entity as a whole in itself?! You're not being very original yourself when you make these links, and I think you're depriving yourself, like you're on sensory overload. Relax!
Speaking of links, ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocteau_Twins
>^_^<
Is she singing about cherry cola? ![{#Think} {#Think}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_think.gif)
![{#Think} {#Think}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_think.gif)
nimesay wrote:
...SO with ya on that!
memories.........
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![{#Roflol} {#Roflol}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_roflol.gif)
...SO with ya on that!
Frater_Kork wrote:
Its built in, her voice is that weird by default.
That is weird, thought maybe it had been added. Its the kind of effect you'd get on a reel to reel machine that had a speed stability problem from a worn belt etc...
Its built in, her voice is that weird by default.
That is weird, thought maybe it had been added. Its the kind of effect you'd get on a reel to reel machine that had a speed stability problem from a worn belt etc...
Too much AutoTune..
DaveInVA wrote:
Its built in, her voice is that weird by default.
Whats with that horrible warbling effect on the vocals, its making me sea-sick...
Its built in, her voice is that weird by default.
HarrO wrote:
I was thinking Jane Siberry with a tick.
Abba??
I was thinking Jane Siberry with a tick.
Whats with that horrible warbling effect on the vocals, its making me sea-sick...
"More like a love thats a bottle of exquisite stuff, yes"
Sugary sweet!![{#Yes} {#Yes}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_yes.gif)
Sugary sweet!
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PureGirl wrote:
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This is simply great music, a great album and nice voices. Are they still together?
![{#No} {#No}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_no.gif)
wferrier wrote:
This CD is the one to get and Treasure is also very good. I can't vouch for their other releases.
Then you have to tell me which CDS to buy, some are better than others.
This CD is the one to get and Treasure is also very good. I can't vouch for their other releases.
ABBAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
The Cure meet Abba?
MUTE ! MUTE ! MUTE.... that horrid noise!!!!!!!!!!!
memories.........
![{#Roflol} {#Roflol}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_roflol.gif)
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Abba??
![{#Dance} {#Dance}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_dance.gif)
If you just took away the horrible wailing, it would sound like a decent new order song-
nice set!! eluvium, calexico, hooverphonic and the cocteau twins!!
RobRyan wrote:
Now that I know it's not Abba I'll listen to it again.
Sounds like Abba to me.
Now that I know it's not Abba I'll listen to it again.
This is simply great music, a great album and nice voices. Are they still together?
I thought the person at the desk next to mine was playing "Dancing Queen" again.
Sounds like Abba to me.
Wow!, a singular voice of ms.Elizabeth Fraser * 8 *
Droidac wrote:
Nope, that was Jane Siberry on Crow OST. She's a fantasic Canadian singer who was always underrated, IMHO.
Oh, good catch there Droidac. BTW LOVE JANE!
Nope, that was Jane Siberry on Crow OST. She's a fantasic Canadian singer who was always underrated, IMHO.
Oh, good catch there Droidac. BTW LOVE JANE!
aragon wrote:
Begin with "Treasure", the best of all albums. Now, Frazer does not sing in English. She has invented a language for herself. I think the Cocteau Twins just wanna prove the obvious: one does not need to know the lyrics to like a song. One creates the song when listening to it.
Enjoy!
I thought she was singing about old dolls found in a dusty attic, and that was the treasure. . .but I heard that it's about Aurélia.
Begin with "Treasure", the best of all albums. Now, Frazer does not sing in English. She has invented a language for herself. I think the Cocteau Twins just wanna prove the obvious: one does not need to know the lyrics to like a song. One creates the song when listening to it.
Enjoy!
I thought she was singing about old dolls found in a dusty attic, and that was the treasure. . .but I heard that it's about Aurélia.
wferrier wrote:
Then you have to tell me which CDS to buy, some are better than others.
Begin with "Treasure", the best of all albums. Now, Frazer does not sing in English. She has invented a language for herself. I think the Cocteau Twins just wanna prove the obvious: one does not need to know the lyrics to like a song. One creates the song when listening to it.
Enjoy!
rickhoran wrote:
its elizabeth frazer, she has the strangest enunciation of words when singing. it is english. i have all their releases and i always wonder what the heck is being said. i have to look up the lyrics all the time.
Then you have to tell me which CDS to buy, some are better than others.
wferrier wrote:
Cocteau language is infamously hard to decipher. You need a translator. Not sure if Google has one. . .
its elizabeth fraser, she has the strangest enunciation of words when singing. it is english. i have all their releases and i always wonder what the heck is being said. i have to look up the lyrics all the time.
DebateG wrote:
Every time I hear Cocteau Twins, I think, "That's an interesting song. If only I understood the language they're singing."
Apparently, it's English. Am I the only one who just realized this?
Cocteau language is infamously hard to decipher. You need a translator. Not sure if Google has one. . .
Every time I hear Cocteau Twins, I think, "That's an interesting song. If only I understood the language they're singing."
Apparently, it's English. Am I the only one who just realized this?
kindermanltd wrote:
Is this the same girl that sang "It can't rain all the Time" on the original The Crow soundtrack?
Nope, that was Jane Siberry on Crow OST. She's a fantasic Canadian singer who was always underrated, IMHO.
Their best CD, not a bad track on the entire CD.
![bounce](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_bounce.gif)
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Who cares. They sound great.
handyrae wrote:
Abba on LSD perhaps.
I need some LSD to listen to this one......
Lets see.....Window Pane will be sufficient.
OmegaConcern wrote:
See? There I go again...
Abba. No question about it. Abba.
No. But I laugh whenever I read this. ![lol](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_lol.gif)
OmegaConcern wrote:Soon please.
Abba. No question about it. Abba.
Yep, guilty as charged. Next! newyorkone wrote:
This isn't ABBA and CT doesn't sound anything like ABBA.
Have you heard ABBA lately?
Theyre good and all, but...
Why do they always turn the treble knob to 11 and turn the bass off?
One of their cheerier songs, for sure ... still, this whole album has been a favorite of mine since it came out. Abba on LSD :
![lol](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_lol.gif)
OmegaConcern wrote:
Abba. No question about it. Abba.
Abba on LSD perhaps.